I'm in Love With Books and I Feel Fine! What Are You Reading in Autumn 2023?

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Reading the Netanyahu’s atm Alfred… if ever there was a time

Peach’s burner account (H.P), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 07:09 (eight months ago) link

Morning reading of Clark’s Heaven on Earth continues. I’m on the Poussin chapter at the moment, and it is as extraordinary as Clark’s whole book on Poussin.

During snatches of the day and at night, I have been switching back and forth between Stephen Van Dyck’s People I Met from the Internet and Emily Martin’s Making a Salt Ridge.

The former is essentially a long annotated list of people that the author met from the internet as he was discovering his sexuality, grieving his mother, moving to LA, etc. It’s engaging and is giving me some more ideas about a piece I am working on around queer millennial aesthetics.

The latter is a book of poems from one of my favorite poets working today— strange looping pieces that are invested in melding the personal and emotional with more material and abstract elements of language. That it goes between many forms helps keep engagement up.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 15:25 (eight months ago) link

I wanted to read something spooky so I picked The Cipher by Kathe Koja, it won some awards 30 years ago. Started off well, very edgy / grungey, and an unusual take on eldritch horror. But it was far too long, didn't go anywhere interesting after the first few chapters, more characters kept coming each more awful than the last.

behold the thump (ledge), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:02 (eight months ago) link

i got about 1/4 of the way through "thinking fast and slow" which is supposedly one of the few things worth keeping from the TED talk/unreplicable psych experiment era. it was not.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 19 October 2023 17:26 (eight months ago) link

that's been on my long list for a while, what's up with it?

behold the thump (ledge), Thursday, 19 October 2023 20:37 (eight months ago) link

'death egg' by nathan duggan. juvenile, vaguely edgy, post-alt-lit-adjacent poetry. bought bc i follow the guy on twitter. enjoyed maybe 1 out of every 5 poems, which is a good ratio i think

flopson, Thursday, 19 October 2023 23:01 (eight months ago) link

2666 update: I just reached the part (in the Part About the Crimes) where the seer appears and tells her life story and recites poetry about the moon. Her appearance is so necessary and so timely; and it feels so much like life, to read page after page and feel nothing but despair, and then to encounter this wonderfully hopeful and curious and worldly voice that insists upon speaking in the midst of so much bloodshed and nonsense.

The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Friday, 20 October 2023 00:03 (eight months ago) link

I felt the same as caek about Thinking Fast and Slow. It was touted as a revolutionary leap forward in understanding cognitive processes, but it struck me as achieving a set of blindingly obvious conclusions by pursuing novel, but rather poorly designed, experiments.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 20 October 2023 02:46 (eight months ago) link

yep.

at the very least it's extremely long for the amount of stuff it has to say, which is typical for the genre.

apparently some of it (like a lot of psych) doesn't replicate either. 400 pages of just so stories.

i heard the same "better than you'd expect for the genre" things about the taleb books. wondering whether to bother with those now.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:19 (eight months ago) link

am finally reading some of the various collected writings of myles na gcopaleen. no doubt i'm missing a lot of important context, but nevertheless excellent stuff.

― no lime tangier

Yeah, so where should I start? At-Swim-Two-Birds, The Third Policeman, other? Context is good, but also I want the best.

dow, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:16 (eight months ago) link

Have read some backstory/essays, so think I may have gotten about as much as I can w/o having actually read himself.

dow, Friday, 20 October 2023 17:18 (eight months ago) link

xps there's a kind of manic scattershot energy to black swan that makes it an entertaining read regardless of its credibility.

behold the thump (ledge), Friday, 20 October 2023 17:49 (eight months ago) link

I finished Our Man in Havana. Highly entertaining satire, full of typically Graham-Greene-ish touches.

Now I'm reading The Knox Brothers, a family biography written by Penelope Fitzgerald mainly about her father and his three brothers, all of whom rose to prominence in British society early in the 20th century. They all have moderately eccentric personalities. I am thankful she takes pains to avoid a reverential tone and frequently leans on amusing family anecdotes, eschewing most of the formal biographic conventions. But this is a labor of love, so her love and respect for her subjects is always apparent.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 20 October 2023 21:33 (eight months ago) link

i heard the same "better than you'd expect for the genre" things about the taleb books. wondering whether to bother with those now.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 20 October 2023 11:19 AM (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

taleb is a totally different beast, he’s an apoplectic megalomaniac and it reads like he snorted a massive line of coke between each paragraph and footnote. i have fond memories of reading it as an undergrad and it was m/l my first exposure to ideas in probability theory but i can’t recommend it at all. for recent pop stats stuff i’ve liked ‘book of why’ by judea pearl (also a megalomaniac in his own way, tho more aloof than taleb) and ‘random acts of medicine’ by jena and worsham. both abt causal inference

flopson, Saturday, 21 October 2023 00:15 (eight months ago) link

I remember Taleb really liked the word "flaneur" and bragged that he had never run after a train.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Saturday, 21 October 2023 00:34 (eight months ago) link

xxxpost, Aimless, you might also dig Hermione Lee's Penelope Fitzgerald: A Life, which tells more about the Knox family, also James Wood got very upset in his New Yorker review of it because stiff-upper-lip Penelope and her erratic husband were raising their kids on a funky houseboat while PF's father was sitting up there in his manse.

dow, Saturday, 21 October 2023 00:43 (eight months ago) link

Despite its depressing extended depiction of poverty, foster care, and childhood addiction in the rural far west part of the state of Viginia (where the state intersects with Kentucky and Tennessee), I thought Barbara Kingsolver's Demon Copperhead was a great recreation of David Copperfield.

The NYT criticized if for not showcasing Demon's potential final success but I thought it ended on a perfect note, the moment that he realized he was going to be fine.

Dan S, Saturday, 21 October 2023 00:43 (eight months ago) link

thanks flopson. i could not face reading judea pearl. i'm familiarity with causal inference etc. in a professional capacity so it would be a busman's holiday to an extent, but also i don't think i could read a book by him in particular.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 21 October 2023 02:12 (eight months ago) link

xxxxpost oh and the Fitzgerald bio also explores how she wrote novels; the author was allowed generous access to the papers, as well as doing research elsewhere.

dow, Saturday, 21 October 2023 03:01 (eight months ago) link

i reread A Town Like Alice for the first time in 30 years - i remember loving it as a teenager but i cannot for the life of me now fathom why

the ww2 stuf is maybe only 1/4 of the book, and is still the most enjoyable imo. but the whole rest of it is so stultifyingly dull!
the device of the boring narrator is stupid & forces the romance to be held at such a weird remove & adds the useless layer of a love triangle that is absolutely daft

and could i please read more about how to make goddamn alligator skin shoes for seven chapters ffs

the casual racism almost forced me to ditch it altogether; let alone the cherry on top of the facepalmingly awful approximation of australian language as told by a limey gtfoh lol

anyway yep some thing are best mot revisited :/

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 October 2023 05:00 (eight months ago) link

been reading jarett kobek but the 2nd & 3rd books i read by him weren't as good as the 1st 1. the one about how he hates the internet, but that's maybe the best book i read all year so not being as good as that is still ok. also rachel kushner's "flamethrowers" - 2nd best book i read all year maybe.

donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Saturday, 21 October 2023 06:26 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, so where should I start?

novel-wise? at-swim-two-birds (and then all the rest!) my favourites: the third policeman & an béal bocht aka the poor mouth.

the myles na gcopaleen collections i just read were the best of myles (early stuff) then further cuttings. best of has maybe higher highs, but further cuttings more digestible.

no lime tangier, Saturday, 21 October 2023 06:55 (eight months ago) link

thanks flopson. i could not face reading judea pearl. i'm familiarity with causal inference etc. in a professional capacity so it would be a busman's holiday to an extent, but also i don't think i could read a book by him in particular.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, October 20, 2023 10:12 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

lol i completely understand

flopson, Saturday, 21 October 2023 09:21 (eight months ago) link

I was going to suggest the Best of Myles which I think is a lot of his newspaper work though I haven't read it through, think I do have a couple of copies lying around though. The Third Policeman, At Swim Two Birds and The Poor Mouth are all good & I have a few more things by him lying around The Hard Life and a few others. I think I do tend to pick up his books when I see them. Did love the surrealism of Third Policeman especially policemen becoming part bike etc.

Stevo, Saturday, 21 October 2023 10:26 (eight months ago) link

you can get the 3 novels in one omnibus edition which is all worth reading Policemen, Birds and Poor Mouth.

Stevo, Saturday, 21 October 2023 10:33 (eight months ago) link

Archipelago Books, the great publisher of International books in translation to English, is have a fall sale through next Friday— 50% off with code “fallsale.”

Truly an incredible press, includes authors that have been discussed often on ILB.

https://archipelagobooks.org/

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 21 October 2023 11:47 (eight months ago) link

It's a good press. I think the postage for the UK sadly invalidates the 50% otherwise there are a couple of things I would go for.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 October 2023 12:12 (eight months ago) link

Gottfried Benn - Primal Vision

A collection of Benn's prose with about 50 pages of poems. There are some brilliant prose pieces (only poets can write such prose), a pile on of abstracted viewpoints that could be used to cloak fairly repugnant views (he was favourable toward Nazism, even if his head wasn't as turned by it as it was for Celine), but nevertheless are an amazing read.

It's an often brilliant book, by a piece of shit human being.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 October 2023 12:19 (eight months ago) link

agree with that totally^

no lime tangier, Saturday, 21 October 2023 12:23 (eight months ago) link

from memory, some of the prose is extracts from longer pieces? don't think there's been any lengthier translations since as far as I'm aware.

no lime tangier, Saturday, 21 October 2023 12:28 (eight months ago) link

Yeah extracts from longer pieces, more novella/novel length. Then there are a couple of things that seem to be extract from plays (or pieces that are play like I'm construction) and they aren't as good.

There is some more straight prose, such as the study of older artists, which didn't make too much of an impression.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 21 October 2023 13:29 (eight months ago) link

Terry Jones Medieval Lives
Annual sized book tie in to the tv series from the early 00ies. Somehow got shipped to the children's section when sent in from another library. Think that's just a glitch.
Have read a few of his books and thought they were great. Stumbled on his one on Chaucers Knight and thought it really good.
Saw the tv series at the time of release I think. Enjoyed.
This turned up in local 2nd hand bookshop a few weeks ago and reminded me of its existence. So now borrowed a copy.

Paul Crooks Ancestors
The novel based on his research into his family history features a character renamed August after having been kidnapped from Africa and enslaved in Jamaica. It's ok as a novel, don't think it's what I expected. Think I may go on to read something on his research methods or how to do it yourself. His webinars have been good.

August Meier and Elliott Runwick From Plantation To Ghetto.
Early 70s book on US black history.quite in depth and I think I'm coming across details I'm not remembering from later work on the subject.
Not sure to what extent this is a recognised source for later work. I found out about it from a bibliography but not sure to what degree it's picked up on elsewhere.
I think it's good and does have me wanting to read other things by the authors.
Don't think there's a Doug Sahm connection. & only just clicking on writing about the book that one of the authors' first names happens to be the same as a character in the other black history work I read this week.

Stevo, Saturday, 21 October 2023 16:55 (eight months ago) link

Ancestral Imprints: Histories of Irish Traditional Music and Dance
Thérèse Smith
just got this out of the library too. Maybe should have waited since I have a few things coming soon. But did look really i8nteresting. Looking into the early days of recording traditional Irish music both annotation and early days of actual audio recording..
Do want to know more about this stuff ever since hearing Farewell To Ireland the Proper box set of the early New England recordings of bands from the Police Force and Fire service. Probably before too I think, think me getting the set reflected an earlier interest.
I picked up on a lot of roots stuff after getting into things like Dylan who had prompted a writer to look into his influences in a book I read in the early mid 80s and also artists like Nick cave and the Gun Club who were investigating root sinfluences from a non purist perspective. Which all may reflect an earlier taste I hadn't fleshed out much before.
That Tony Russell book on early country ties in too. So basically fleshing out things i have a vague interest in.

Stevo, Saturday, 21 October 2023 18:09 (eight months ago) link

I recently read The Day of the Owl by Leonardo Sciascia. This is the 2nd of his books that I've read, and I didn't like it as much as the other one (To Each His Own). That one was more psychological, filtered through the perspective of one main character. This one takes a more omniscient perspective and purposely keeps the characters somewhat anonymous - even to the point of having chapters which are just dialog of unidentified voices. Its a more journalistic approach to describing a sociopolitical situation. It's admirably compressed and ingenious in rendering the reality of the "mafia" in Sicily in the mid-20th century, but it just didn't have the same emotional heft for me.

o. nate, Saturday, 21 October 2023 18:21 (eight months ago) link

There's a good Damiano Damiani film version of that. Lee J. Cobb as the don!

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 21 October 2023 19:56 (eight months ago) link

Next up for the book club: Sharks in the Time of Saviors, by Kawai Strong Washburn. A first novel by a Hawaiian author that won the PEN/Faulkner in 2020 for best debut novel. Looks like a good read.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 21 October 2023 19:58 (eight months ago) link

Commitment is remarkable so far for its flatness, which seems deliberate and do not remember from her other novels. So there is a choice and one could change.

youn, Sunday, 22 October 2023 08:38 (eight months ago) link

You can get the 3 novels in one omnibus edition which is all worth reading Policemen, Birds and Poor Mouth.

― Stevo

Oho, will hit up library loan for this! Thanks for the tips yall.

dow, Monday, 23 October 2023 00:28 (eight months ago) link

I am reading my second Hanne Ørstavik book and she's quite incredible but very hard going thematically. stylistically she's very exact and very easy to read, a real pleasure, but thematically she's just unstinting -- the other one I read was about her partner's cancer, this one's about a pastor reckoning with suicide of both friends and parishioners. remarkable, remarkable writer, really honestly breathtaking, but I may give myself a little space before I try the third of her books that's been translated into English

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 23 October 2023 01:47 (eight months ago) link

Ilan Pappe The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine.
Israeli historian without a Zionist agenda looks back at the setting up of the state. Maybe that's more with an anti Zionist stance.
So is exposing the extent to which anti Arab feeling was there from the start.like it's not a bug it's a feature.
Quite good so far and I should have got to this sooner. Picked it up from a charity shop a couple of years ago. Picked up a few things on Palestine and Zionism that have sat around waiting to be read. So really is about time.

The Evolution of Human Rights Paul Gordon Lauren
History of the idea of Human Rights. Goes back to before Magna Carta. I was struck by people apparently viewing rights as tangible in themselves instead of hopefully as a mutual understanding in a societal network or practically as leverage in a legal setting. So thought I'd better learn more about how they were understood widely.

Stevo, Monday, 23 October 2023 05:49 (eight months ago) link

i thought the start of this book seemed familiar, but perhaps he's trying to point out that finding bodies in a ditch is quite common in the 87th precinct. got another 40 pages in and found an ocr error highlighted. checked records and i'd read in before... in february. wtf.

was only 120 pages so i finished it anyway, started saturday evening, finished monday morning, so the damage to my stats wasn't that great.

koogs, Monday, 23 October 2023 11:35 (eight months ago) link

Anyone read Elsa Morante's Lies and Sorcery? It just got the NYRB treatment and it looked great at the bookstore yesterday.

hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 October 2023 13:11 (eight months ago) link

Really looking forward to reading it in a few months. Only one of her novels I haven't read

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 October 2023 14:43 (eight months ago) link

William Shakespeare - Romeo and Juliet

Think Julius Caesar is the only of the major tragedies left.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 23 October 2023 14:56 (eight months ago) link

good writer

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 23 October 2023 15:04 (eight months ago) link

shame about the bayesian priors

mookieproof, Monday, 23 October 2023 19:55 (eight months ago) link

I started The Wall by Marlen Haushofer, something I heard about through ILB. Off to a nice start!

o. nate, Monday, 23 October 2023 21:03 (eight months ago) link

Finished Emily Martin’s book of poems as well as Steven Van Dyck’s novel, now onto nightly enjoyment of Laura Riding’s Close Chaplet and Vigdis Hjorth’s Is Mother Dead. Riding is wonderful as always, and this is my second Hjorth novel since her Will & Testament was such a hypnotic and intense psychosexual family drama.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Monday, 23 October 2023 22:39 (eight months ago) link

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calstars, Saturday, 28 October 2023 23:59 (eight months ago) link

Continuing apace with Hjorth, started Ilan Pappe’s The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine, a book inherited from my grandmother after she passed. Dense, informative, and horrible in every way one
might imagine.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Sunday, 29 October 2023 01:37 (eight months ago) link


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