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He just made a very nice video about "mainstream" books by SF authors, quite long but enjoyable

Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 26 November 2023 05:05 (eleven months ago) link

Noticed that but haven’t watched yet.

Shifty Henry’s Swing Club (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 26 November 2023 06:00 (eleven months ago) link

Book collectors go a-roving:

n a damp late-November morning we went on pilgrimage to the Dark Tower, the three of us, Valentine, Howard and Gale, keen book-collectors all. We went from our digs in Abbey Dore, hard by the Abbey itself, through the Golden Valley until we came to Peterchurch, whose church has a slim, needle-point spire in pale stone, an aerial of elegance.

From here, a narrow, steeply climbing road is the way to Urishay. As we neared the summit, making way for an approaching vehicle, our wheels slithered in the roadside slime, as if to impose upon us a slow, respectful approach. Through the autumnal trees, the last vestiges of gold glowing on their gaunt branches, we could see the high ruinous towers. Here, a Norman baronial stronghold had become over the centuries a ramshackle farmhouse, until finally its owners had been obliged to give up the struggle to keep it intact: its once roaring fireplaces now stood exposed in their walls, dank hollows.

Before its desolation, a traveller, seeking gratefully its lights through a storm, arrived one night, and asked for shelter, and was welcomed by its eccentric castellan: they talked long together by one of those fireplaces, in the marvellously evocative opening scene of Francis Brett Young’s The Dark Tower (1915). In a preface to a later edition, the author says: ‘this early, imperfect book has a deeper claim on my own affections than any other I have written.’

It was bound up with his discovery of ‘that mass of Old Red Sandstone called the Black Mountain, whose sombrely suggestive name and bold outline, filmed by distance’ had haunted him for years. When Brett Young had visited ‘the lonely outpost’ it was ‘still inhabited, through the declining storms of centuries, by the family whose forebears had first held it: a race named Delahay. Now, at last, the Delahays are gone and Urishay a stark ruin . . .’

It had been ‘his romantic privilege in those days to know the last of them: a young man, half-squire, half small farmer, who clung to its stones like the last leaf of a dying oak’, and the story of his lineage and the story of the place, had enthralled him. Moreover, he had written the book as a relief from his work as a local doctor, himself convalescent, during the fiercely busy days of an influenza epidemic in 1914: ‘The composition of The Dark Tower, an urgent spiritual necessity, was the only escape a harassed mind and ailing body found at that time’.


--from https://wormwoodiana.blogspot.com/2023/11/through-golden-valley-to-dark-tower.html,
by Mark Valentine.

dow, Friday, 1 December 2023 03:35 (eleven months ago) link

There's a rarebookscore too.

dow, Friday, 1 December 2023 03:36 (eleven months ago) link

https://wormwoodiana.blogspot.com/2023/12/rip-mark-samuels.html?m=1

Quite shocked to see this, I hadn't seen him online in a while but his friends seem surprised by the news too

Robert Adam Gilmour, Saturday, 9 December 2023 23:05 (ten months ago) link

I managed to forget The Glamour at my friend's over the weekend when I had 50 pages left and could feel how Priest was preparing to resolve the story with another twist. It was actually a very old recommendation and my first since reading Inverted World. I will probably go on to read another (I saw recs upthread).

Right now I switched to Ramuz, probably our most famous Swiss-French author, with a novella about the Earth crashing into the sun, told from the perspective of calm quiet agricultural Switzerland. I didn't know he had written stuff like that. Shamefully my first.

Nabozo, Monday, 11 December 2023 14:33 (ten months ago) link

Loved The Glamour. Maybe one day I will read it again.

Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:23 (ten months ago) link

Maybe I should get around to reading The Gradual one of these days.

Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:34 (ten months ago) link

If not The Islanders.

Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 11 December 2023 22:38 (ten months ago) link

find someone who loves you as much as christopher priest loves titling his books 'the [vague noun (or occasionally adjective)]'

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 00:46 (ten months ago) link

yes this is the correct thread, he wrote books about a badass priest investigating a scary sex cult. I'm curious but I don't think I'll bother

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 19:58 (ten months ago) link

I perused a page or two on Amazon Kindle previews, er let's say I've read better. Is all self-published writing this bad?

sophie glanced up, looking concerned (Matt #2), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:08 (ten months ago) link

Of course not.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:12 (ten months ago) link

find someone who loves you as much as christopher priest loves titling his books 'the [vague noun (or occasionally adjective)]'

Loool!

Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:40 (ten months ago) link

It’s like all the “Adverb Adjective Noun” Dylan song titles.

Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:41 (ten months ago) link

Not to be confused with Mr. Bob Dorough, that was his birthday yesterday.

Blecch’s POLLero (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 23:41 (ten months ago) link

Ramsey Campbell uses titles like that a lot, but then occasionally something really striking like The Face That Must Die or The Doll Who Ate His Mother

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 14 December 2023 02:53 (ten months ago) link

can anyone speak to lois mcmaster bujold? she's won awards, i've seen her praised, but

a) apparently no one agrees on where to start
b) really just the worst cover art imaginable

mookieproof, Thursday, 14 December 2023 03:05 (ten months ago) link

The only one of hers I've read is Memory, a turning point for apparently heretofore somewhat crazy-brilliant Miles Vorkosigan, Imperial son and rep in space, but also mercenary leader: the central protagonist in what could be called the Vorkosigan Saga, after Miles and his family. It's space opera with unusual range, incl. some depth of characterization at times. Here he's mostly back on his home world, mostly immersed in family and gov politics, intrigue, also some romance and obligatory socializing---all of which can be read on the sly side, but omg outburst of violence-crisis too, and clear enough depictions of previous activities, and I'd like to go back (and fwd) to space adventures, but this one's pretty satisfying, even though I guess mid-series.

dow, Thursday, 14 December 2023 03:54 (ten months ago) link

Also maybe SFE could help you, though it's got a spoiler re Memory:
https://sf-encyclopedia.com/entry/bujold_lois_mcmaster

dow, Thursday, 14 December 2023 03:58 (ten months ago) link

Paul Di Filippo recommends Cordelia's Honor (an omnibus) as the best starting place. Thankfully there is a series of omnibuses but they don't cover the entire saga

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 14 December 2023 04:32 (ten months ago) link

She gives her own take on the order here:

https://www.goodreads.com/author_blog_posts/22803928-bujold-reading-order-guide-2022-update

I quite enjoyed the Vorkosigan Saga. A fun mix of politics and space opera romp

groovypanda, Thursday, 14 December 2023 17:28 (ten months ago) link

Shards of Honor and Barrayar. The first two books in the series proper, they detail the adventures of Cordelia Naismith of Beta Colony and Aral Vorkosigan of Barrayar. Shards was my very first novel ever; Barrayar was actually my eighth, but continues the tale the next day after the end of Shards. For readers who want to be sure of beginning at the beginning, or who are very spoiler-sensitive, start with these two.

Both of these are in Cordelia's Honor. I normally go for publication order, but when a series is this long and not a strict sequence, I'll make an exception.

Robert Adam Gilmour, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:29 (ten months ago) link

feels like there are an incredible number of novels (particularly recently) about generation ships nearing their destinations and being sabotaged?

thank god we have becky chambers to make everyone rational and humane

mookieproof, Monday, 25 December 2023 03:55 (ten months ago) link

Lol

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 25 December 2023 05:02 (ten months ago) link

i just read “Liane The Wayfarer” by Jack Vance and am completely blown away. next level

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 27 December 2023 18:25 (ten months ago) link

read 'exadelic' by jon evans

more of a techno-thriller, i suppose, than sci-fi exactly -- although robert heinlein makes a cameo appearance

hella fast-paced, covers a fantastic amount of ground, pretty decent imo

honestly the worst thing about it is that the author photo is deeply in the uncanny valley

mookieproof, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 03:27 (ten months ago) link

modern SF 'about the author' entries are . . . well, cringe

female SF author is six feet tall and lives in los angeles

male SF author lives in the midwest with his family and a tarantula named rosie

c'mon ppl

mookieproof, Thursday, 4 January 2024 04:40 (ten months ago) link

Two new Broodcomb Press titles at the end of Jan.

https://broodcomb.co.uk/?page_id=84

Having read all the ones still in print, I am not sure there’s anything comparable in the folk horror / English unease canon. They’re an extraordinary achievement.

ShariVari, Friday, 5 January 2024 16:00 (ten months ago) link

From What Did You Read in 2023?

Patrick Nielsen Hayden ((ed.): Starlight 2
(science fiction x fantasy:prestige express, but often gives out of steam
—exceptions: Susanna Clarke, *“Mrs. Mabb,” Jonathan Letham, *”Access Fantasy,” Martha Soukoup,*”The House of Expectations”)

"Mrs. Mabb," about a maybe faerie queen who screws with minds for sure, gets alarming enough to qualify as psychological folk horror to me, with one victim who becomes stalker, also something of a take-off on Pride and Prejudice-type marital prospects: are Susanna Clarke's novels good? Haven't seen any more stories, but would like too.
Letham's story is carefully constructed, also gets to a giddy momentum. reminding me to dig up my ancient collections of Alfred Bester short stories! As w Clarke, I've only seen the novels, wondering about other stories (and the novels).
Soukoup's story isn't quite like anything else, but kind of the vibe of an updated Alfred Hitchcock Presents or Alfred Hitchcock Hour anthology entry, if they could have done one largely (but, fatefully, not always) set in a modern, legal, professionally dedicated Nevada sexhouse. Will look for more by her as well.

dow, Friday, 5 January 2024 18:18 (ten months ago) link

'Piranesi' is excellent (haven't read/heard/seen Jonathan Strange).

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:25 (ten months ago) link

I really liked Piranesi, it was a model of concise weirdness.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:27 (ten months ago) link

I'm reading a book of short stories ('Under My Skin') by KJ Parker, who wrote my other favorite story in that Best Sci-Fi & Fantasy 2012 collection besides Adam Roberts.

They're very fun & engaging so far, although they tend to feature male protagonists that are overly snarky and ultra-capable. But I do like his tendency to write about warring academics.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 5 January 2024 18:28 (ten months ago) link

Thanks for those tips!
Also, this venerable, classy collection concludes with Ted Chiang's " Story of Your Life," which has always made me wonder: if you knew or thought you knew everything that was going to happen and how, including your daughter's death and your own, would you be this calm about it, as the narrator seems to be? Maybe part of the aliens' gift, but mainly well-mannered, along with the always tastefully attentive detail (not quite my thing. when it seems the main thing).

dow, Friday, 5 January 2024 18:39 (ten months ago) link

I'm reading a book of short stories ('Under My Skin') by KJ Parker, who wrote my other favorite story in that Best Sci-Fi & Fantasy 2012 collection besides Adam Roberts.

They're very fun & engaging so far, although they tend to feature male protagonists that are overly snarky and ultra-capable. But I do like his tendency to write about warring academics.

You didn’t like the Kij Johnson?

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 January 2024 21:42 (ten months ago) link

Also, the last story in that book has the same title as a Momus tune.

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 January 2024 21:43 (ten months ago) link

lol no, that story was real fucked up if it's the one I'm thinking of

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 5 January 2024 21:44 (ten months ago) link

Actually haven’t read the one in that book but I did read the one you are most likely thinking of.

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 January 2024 21:49 (ten months ago) link

Or maybe you are thinking of the one in the book. Will read and report back/pvmic

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 January 2024 21:50 (ten months ago) link

Mantis Wives

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Friday, 5 January 2024 21:52 (ten months ago) link

I could swear I've read/listened to at least one of Kij Johnson's stories in Clarkesworld. "The Privilege of a Happy Ending," maybe?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 5 January 2024 21:52 (ten months ago) link

Think that must have been the one I was thinking of, “Spar.” A Nebula Award winner.

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 January 2024 22:00 (ten months ago) link

Kij Johnson kind of updates Tiptree via Ballard, or something.

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 January 2024 22:08 (ten months ago) link

Actually there are more audio stories over there where that came from.

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 January 2024 22:14 (ten months ago) link

No, I know what it was: "The Dream-Quest of Vellitt Boe." IIRC, the Coode Street guys had that on one of their year-end lists.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 5 January 2024 22:15 (ten months ago) link

Okay, thanks for clarifying.

Jordan, it took me awhile to see that you had reviewed that book in two posts. At first I thought you just overlooked some stuff you didn’t like.

The Glittering Worldbuilders (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 January 2024 22:52 (ten months ago) link


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