1901 Sully Prudhomme 1902 Theodor Mommsen 1903 Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson 1904 Frédéric Mistral José Echegaray y Eizaguirre 1905 Henryk Sienkiewicz 1906 Giosuè Carducci 1907 Rudyard Kipling 1908 Rudolf Christoph Eucken 1909 Selma Lagerlöf 1910 Paul Heyse 1911 Count Maurice Maeterlinck 1912 Gerhart Hauptmann 1913 Rabindranath Tagore 1915 Romain Rolland 1916 Verner von Heidenstam 1917 Karl Adolph Gjellerup Henrik Pontoppidan 1919 Carl Spitteler 1920 Knut Hamsun 1921 Anatole France 1922 Jacinto Benavente 1923 William Butler Yeats 1924 Władysław Reymont 1925 George Bernard Shaw 1926 Grazia Deledda 1927 Henri Bergson 1928 Sigrid Undset 1929 Thomas Mann 1930 Sinclair Lewis 1931 Erik Axel Karlfeldt 1932 John Galsworthy 1933 Ivan Alekseyevich Bunin 1934 Luigi Pirandello 1936 Eugene O'Neill 1937 Roger Martin du Gard 1938 Pearl S. Buck 1939 Frans Eemil Sillanpää 1944 Johannes Vilhelm Jensen 1945 Gabriela Mistral1946 Hermann Hesse 1947 André Gide 1948 T. S. Eliot 1949 William Faulkner 1950 Bertrand Russell 1951 Pär Lagerkvist 1952 François Mauriac 1953 Sir Winston Churchill 1954 Ernest Hemingway 1955 Halldór Laxness 1956 Juan Ramón Jiménez 1957 Albert Camus 1958 Boris Pasternak (declined the prize)1959 Salvatore Quasimodo 1960 Saint-John Perse 1961 Ivo Andric 1962 John Steinbeck 1963 Giorgos Seferis 1964 Jean-Paul Sartre (declined the prize)1965 Michail Sholokhov 1966 Shmuel Yosef Agnon Nelly Sachs 1967 Miguel Ángel Asturias 1968 Yasunari Kawabata 1969 Samuel Beckett 1970 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn1971 Pablo Neruda 1972 Heinrich Böll 1973 Patrick White 1974 Eyvind Johnson Harry Martinson 1975 Eugenio Montale 1976 Saul Bellow 1977 Vicente Aleixandre1978 Isaac Bashevis Singer 1979 Odysseas Elytis 1980 Czesław Miłosz 1981 Elias Canetti 1982 Gabriel García Márquez 1983 William Golding 1984 Jaroslav Seifert 1985 Claude Simon 1986 Akinwande Oluwole Soyinka 1987 Joseph Brodsky 1988 Naguib Mahfouz 1989 Camilo José Cela 1990 Octavio Paz 1991 Nadine Gordimer 1992 Derek Walcott 1993 Toni Morrison 1994 Kenzaburo Oe 1995 Seamus Heaney 1996 Wisława Szymborska 1997 Dario Fo 1998 José Saramago 1999 Günter Grass 2000 Gao Xingjian 2001 Vidiadhar Surajprasad Naipaul 2002 Imre Kertész 2003 John Maxwell Coetzee 2004 Elfriede Jelinek 2005 Harold Pinter 2006 Orhan Pamuk 2007 Doris Lessing 2008 J. M. G. Le Clézio2009 Herta Müller 2010 Mario Vargas Llosa 2011 Tomas Tranströmer 2012 Mo Yan 2013 Alice Munro 2014 Patrick Modiano 2015 Svetlana Alexievich 2016 Bob Dylan
― scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 17:41 (nine years ago)
Blood on the Tracks is great...
Search: Henrik Pontoppidan's hairdo...
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Henrik_Pontoppidan_1913.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)
poll!
― F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 14 October 2016 17:50 (nine years ago)
Destroy: Theodor Mommsen's hairdo...
http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/1902/mommsen_postcard.jpg
― scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 17:53 (nine years ago)
Maeterlinck got a Nobel prize?
― still lists its address as the recently razed home of “Morris” the (Jon not Jon), Friday, 14 October 2016 17:59 (nine years ago)
Also just seeing this name:
1965 Michail Sholokhov
Makes me smell unwanted shelves of mildewy goodwill hardcovers
― still lists its address as the recently razed home of “Morris” the (Jon not Jon), Friday, 14 October 2016 18:01 (nine years ago)
And Sholokhov apparently never even wrote "And Quiet Flows the Don"!
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:24 (nine years ago)
wonder if the number of nazis in this list is statistically significant
― legitimate concerns about ducks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:27 (nine years ago)
i still have never read Beloved...i should read it.
― scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:30 (nine years ago)
Excellent, good quality literature:
1907 Rudyard Kipling 1920 Knut Hamsun 1968 Yasunari Kawabata1969 Samuel Beckett 1968 Yasunari Kawabata1969 Samuel Beckett 1971 Pablo Neruda 1975 Eugenio Montale 1981 Elias Canetti1982 Gabriel García Márquez 1987 Joseph Brodsky 1991 Nadine Gordimer 1994 Kenzaburo Oe1995 Seamus Heaney1996 Wisława Szymborska 1998 José Saramago 2004 Elfriede Jelinek 2007 Doris Lessing 2015 Svetlana Alexievich
Crap/indifferent/yet to see the fuss:
1913 Rabindranath Tagore 1929 Thomas Mann 1934 Luigi Pirandello 1946 Hermann Hesse1947 André Gide1948 T. S. Eliot1949 William Faulkner 1952 François Mauriac 1955 Halldór Laxness 1958 Boris Pasternak (declined the prize)1959 Salvatore Quasimodo 1957 Albert Camus 1963 Giorgos Seferis1964 Jean-Paul Sartre (declined the prize)1970 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn1972 Heinrich Böll1973 Patrick White 1976 Saul Bellow 1979 Odysseas Elytis1980 Czesław Miłosz 1985 Claude Simon 2008 J. M. G. Le Clézio2009 Herta Müller 2011 Tomas Tranströmer
Read some, not enough to have a one word opinion on - actually going to check now:
1966 Nelly Sachs
Actually Evil:
1953 Sir Winston Churchill 2016 Bob Dylan
Not enough data in the bank to process to an onion.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:39 (nine years ago)
to process the rest of this list to an onion.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:41 (nine years ago)
and quiet flows the don is totally great.some other sholokhov book i attempted to read was utter shit in the worst soviet social realist style
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:44 (nine years ago)
"Not enough data in the bank to process to an onion."
gertrude stein fan...
― scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:47 (nine years ago)
Gabriela Mistral: first latin american winner.
is on the 5000 peso/5 lucas note in chile:
http://tomchao.com/sa/chile5fx.jpg
must be one of the only nobel laureates to be a school teacher of another
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:47 (nine years ago)
p sure Halldór Laxness is in tartarus reading his own work forever
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:47 (nine years ago)
i have never found the lessing...that i want to read. i've picked up quite a few.
― scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:48 (nine years ago)
i was such a bellow fanboy when i was young. need to re-read some to see if i still feel the same way.
this comes down to Mahfouz vs. IB Singer for me
― Οὖτις, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:50 (nine years ago)
i read the first two Canopus in Argos book but couldn't go on. i liked everything about them except actually reading them. i don't think they're exactly what doris got the prize for tho.
― Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:52 (nine years ago)
ooh or Saramago
lots I don't know on here, none I actively dislike.
xp
― Οὖτις, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:52 (nine years ago)
im a bit ambivalent on lessing. golden notebook is pretty great. some of the other books - a proto "we need to talk about kevin" i had to read in school being the worst i can think of - not so good.
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:53 (nine years ago)
also lessing basically the opposite of a fun read. good to read on a rainy sunday when you're feeling glum.
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:56 (nine years ago)
a scottish person has never won the nobel prize for literature :'-(
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:17 (nine years ago)
Bob Dylan?
― legitimate concerns about ducks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:18 (nine years ago)
is not a true scotsman
― Οὖτις, Friday, 14 October 2016 21:19 (nine years ago)
apparently he's eligible for everything
― legitimate concerns about ducks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:22 (nine years ago)
Is Pearl S. Buck still considered a major literary figure?
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:23 (nine years ago)
no, not really
― a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:27 (nine years ago)
i like kipling just fine but rating him over mann, camus, gide, solzhenitsyn, faulkner is a little hard to figure
i have an old abridgment of mommsen's history of rome but have never really cracked it
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:47 (nine years ago)
kipling isnt in the top 20 on this list for me tbh
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:56 (nine years ago)
I probably should take Kipling out of there but I've been re-considering him at the mo. He isn't in the top 20 of mine (if I were to rank them which I won't as I'm not 21 anymore)
Mann - very boring technocratic prose in laying out of the issues in Magic Mountain. Musil was 10x better than this. I want to read his last novel tho'. Death in Venice is great and I do look for the edition of his diaries.
Solzhenitsyn - same but for Soviets. Shamolov and Platonov wrote better prose (partially because they believed in the USSR and were in conflict with it at the same time)
Camus - The Outsider was a bit lucky but I'm told he was v good looking.
Gide - got zilch from his stuff. Rejected the manuscript for Swann's Way, one of the worst literary judgements EVER.
Faulkner - the one guy I want to re-consider.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 October 2016 22:08 (nine years ago)
the fall > the plague > the outsider
― *-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 22:09 (nine years ago)
Read all of those. Didn't hate it or anything..
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 October 2016 22:16 (nine years ago)
kipling was a friggin' genius. there isn't anyone alive who can do everything he could do. i need more kipling.
who is someone who could write fiction and poetry as well as he could? i can't think of anyone.
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 October 2016 00:10 (nine years ago)
i wanna stay in his house. not cheap but it's right up the road!
http://landmarktrustusa.org/properties/rudyard-kiplings-naulakha/
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 October 2016 00:11 (nine years ago)
God it's actually incredible how much better the Irish are than all the others
― the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Saturday, 15 October 2016 00:15 (nine years ago)
My keep list would be something like this: the only Harry Martinson I've read is an epic sci-fi poem set on a spaceship, and it was great
1907 Rudyard Kipling 1913 Rabindranath Tagore 1920 Knut Hamsun 1923 William Butler Yeats 1928 Sigrid Undset 1929 Thomas Mann 1930 Sinclair Lewis 1933 Ivan Alekseyevich Bunin 1934 Luigi Pirandello 1936 Eugene O'Neill 1947 André Gide 1948 T. S. Eliot 1951 Pär Lagerkvist 1952 François Mauriac 1955 Halldór Laxness 1957 Albert Camus 1961 Ivo Andric 1962 John Steinbeck 1964 Jean-Paul Sartre (declined the prize)1968 Yasunari Kawabata 1969 Samuel Beckett 1971 Pablo Neruda 1972 Heinrich Böll 1973 Patrick White 1974 Harry Martinson 1978 Isaac Bashevis Singer 1980 Czesław Miłosz 1981 Elias Canetti 1983 William Golding 1986 Akinwande Oluwole Soyinka 1987 Joseph Brodsky 1988 Naguib Mahfouz 1995 Seamus Heaney 1996 Wisława Szymborska 1998 José Saramago 2002 Imre Kertész 2003 John Maxwell Coetzee 2004 Elfriede Jelinek 2005 Harold Pinter 2011 Tomas Tranströmer 2013 Alice Munro 2014 Patrick Modiano 2015 Svetlana Alexievich
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Saturday, 15 October 2016 01:23 (nine years ago)
Pre-Dylan, Muller and le Clezio seem like the last big mis-steps. Muller can be a good writer, but so utterly humourless, and le Clezio just seems like an overrated sadist.
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Saturday, 15 October 2016 01:28 (nine years ago)
i need to read more william golding. his post-piggy books always sound really interesting to me, but i always forget to look for them in used shops which is the only place i'd ever find them. plus, he had the best first edition covers ever.
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/FreeFall.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/WillianGolding_TheInheritors.jpg
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/TheSpire.JPG
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/PincherMartin.jpg
― scott seward, Saturday, 15 October 2016 03:29 (nine years ago)
1953 Sir Winston Churchill2016 Bob Dylan
I LOLed
― (SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 October 2016 10:08 (nine years ago)
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), 15. oktober 2016 03:28 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I heard a lot of snickering at Modiano as well, or am I remembering it wrong?
― Frederik B, Saturday, 15 October 2016 10:30 (nine years ago)
I totally forgot until this second that Coetzee won the Nobel Prize, weird
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:37 (nine years ago)
Anyway, Laxness's "Independent People" is one of the most magnificent things I've ever read, thank you Nobel committee for bringing it to my attention.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:38 (nine years ago)
Mann - very boring technocratic prose in laying out of the issues in Magic Mountain. Musil was 10x better than this. I want to read his last novel tho'. Death in Venice is great and I do look for the edition of his diarie
You might respond differently to the translator and Joseph and His Brothers, which I finished three weeks ago and wanted another 1500 pages of. The mountains of historical detail reinvented by a self-consciously 20th century narrator provoked the right kind of dialectical thinking.
otoh Thomas Mann exists so that he can win Nobel Prizes.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:41 (nine years ago)
Kipling's short stories are rather good: terse little things with a good ear for dialect that I'll pick over Hemingway's these days.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:42 (nine years ago)
― scott seward, Friday, October 14, 2016
Hardy and Lawrence.
1970 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn1972 Heinrich Böll1973 Patrick White
boy have I given these three a number of chances. Am I reading the right White? What's a good start?
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:46 (nine years ago)
I feel like Kipling and Yeats are the most imperishable here, but I haven't read most of the list. Kawabata is one I want to check out.
― jmm, Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:49 (nine years ago)
otoh Thomas Mann exists so that he can win Nobel Prizes.― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
He was born for it! Even now absolutely encapsulates what the Nobel for lit is about and...its not pretty.
I don't know, historical novels ain't my bag. My line on translation is that someone who speaks to me will do so even if I come across a translation that is regarded as bad. So if I'm not liking something its either because its something I am not disposed towards or its bad, or I am but I don't like the writing, or these are things I am not ready for just now (on that one Dostoevsky passed me by at 17 but now I'm good with him)
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:54 (nine years ago)
If they set up a Nobel Discover Weekly I’ll check it out
― There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Saturday, 12 October 2024 14:34 (one year ago)
Tim Parks is an excellent reviewer of books... he hates Elena Ferrante (and the translator of her works, Ann Goldstein).
― dow, Saturday, 12 October 2024 17:23 (one year ago)
Fine with me to give it to someone who deserves to be better known, but I had no problem with finally giving it to Dylan (might've gotten a better response in the 60s?), not faulting him for celebrity, and thinking of songs as texts for performance, as with Nobels awarded to several playwrights.
― dow, Saturday, 12 October 2024 17:33 (one year ago)
Can coors and nabozo say a bit about their response to *The Vegeterian*? Not fishing for an argument just wondered what inspired such a negative reaction.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 12 October 2024 17:44 (one year ago)
The central character is hollow, the two men are repulsive, it's grotesque, there is little connection between the three parts, and it's not really about vegetarianism. It's wallowing in its dark and gross content, and I didn't see any point, or maybe I didn't care for the social allegory. The first part would have been ok as a stand-alone.
― Nabozo, Saturday, 12 October 2024 20:18 (one year ago)
and it's not really about vegetarianism
lol
agreed that the first section is the best though
― flopson, Saturday, 12 October 2024 20:45 (one year ago)
The book is called The Vegetarian and its not about Vegetarianism?? Fuck!
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 October 2024 21:00 (one year ago)
Gotta say these two statements don't go together in my book (so to speak).― dow, Saturday, 12 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink
Parks has his reasons, and most critics (and ppl) will have a blindspot. I disagree with them but I usually will look at whatever he is reviewing.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 October 2024 21:03 (one year ago)
It just seemed like a jarring sequence of statements, since I know (by your favorable posts about Ferrante) that you do disagree with him, but sure, we all have our blindspots, and I'll seek out more of his reviews, which I don't come across in my usual browsing, since I already have such a backlog of reviewed books--but should update---
― dow, Sunday, 13 October 2024 01:38 (one year ago)
Non-fiction writers have been pretty comprehensively snubbed since they gave the 1902 prize to Mommsen. Not sure why they lopped off that whole arm of literature, but they have.
With the notable exception of Alexievich, who is incredible and who I only found out about and started reading because of the prize.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 13 October 2024 03:46 (one year ago)
The central character is hollow - she's been hollowed out by a patriarchal societythe two men are repulsive - how is this a problemit's grotesque - sounding goodthere is little connection between the three parts - they follow on from each other! Admittedly the first part WAS a stand-alone I think originally hence the bittinessand it's not really about vegetarianism - NEITHER WAS HITLERIt's wallowing in its dark and gross content - if you think this is wallowing you should read some grimdark, ughand I didn't see any point, or maybe I didn't care for the social allegory - fair comment
Anyway she seems an odd choice for this kind of honour but amusing to think of H. Murakami waiting by the phone for the call that never comes AGAIN. Go and perv over some earlobes, fella. The only thing funnier would be if Ryū Murakami wins it next year.
― the nervous laughter of fools (Matt #2), Sunday, 13 October 2024 06:49 (one year ago)
"It's wallowing in its dark and gross content"
"Oh no! My worldview has been challenged by a book! Oh no!!"
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 October 2024 13:31 (one year ago)
Good for her.
https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=384056
"I think of the lit prize as a nice way of introducing European audiences to other literary cultures.Far more important that people get to know other South Korean/East Asian authors through Han Kang's prize."
that's a nice approach
but if you choose Han Kang as your starting point, maybe you're not going to want to go much further
I'll stop now
― corrs unplugged, 12. oktober 2024 16:07 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
I think Han Kang already led a bunch of people to read South Korean literature. From a Guardian article from a few years back: Rocco points out that young people “don’t seem to be reading the languages that were classically regarded as the drivers of the canon”, that is, western European languages. In fact, of the 2m books of translated fiction sold in Britain last year, she tells me, “the single most popular language – just under half a million volumes – was Japanese” (not including manga), “followed by South Korean”. (Anton Hur, a Booker-longlisted translator, recently wrote that after The Vegetarian won in 2016, “all of a sudden, Korean literature was seen as edgy and fierce”.)
― Frederik B, Sunday, 13 October 2024 18:05 (one year ago)
I think of wallowing as inertia, getting bogged down, sometimes miserablist complacency---not meant as a comment on her book, which I haven't read. Wallowing can also come across as enjoyment, resting, cooling off in the mud: an early 70s reference to Little Richard currently "wallowing in insane vaudeville" doesn't come across as that bad a thing, especially considering how many other performers didn't make it through those years (maybe wallowing iiv helped?)
― dow, Sunday, 13 October 2024 18:53 (one year ago)
Even if this is as bad as you say, I don't think ppl would immediately give up on South Korean books.
People will get to read of characters in a different setting, who think about things in a slightly different way. Even if the result isn't to that reader's liking this stuff could get them to go further.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 October 2024 20:09 (one year ago)
I think Han Kang already led a bunch of people to read South Korean literature. ― Frederik B, Sunday, October 13, 2024 6:05 PM (yesterday)
Definitely made it easier for translators to get funding / gave a hook for people to promote other South Korean novels/novellas (Bae Suah's Nowhere To Be Found did decently in New Zealand - here's a good interview with the translator, Sora Kim-Russell: https://better-read.com/2019/03/13/found/ )
― etc, Monday, 14 October 2024 03:33 (one year ago)
I discovered my wife bought The Vegetarian ebook some years ago, so I read it. I thought it was very good. Extraordinary energy to the first part, the way everyone treats her as though she has voluntarily and deliberately transformed into a monstrous giant insect. The other two parts very effective at taking you into the mind of a horrible jerk, and showing the experience of dealing with someone with severe mental health issues.
― a mysterious, repulsive form of energy that permeates the universe (ledge), Thursday, 17 October 2024 08:30 (one year ago)
There's something to be said about those later sections that align the book with the Life and Times of Michael K - not so much that she enters a state of grace (one of Coetzee's central themes) but, crudely, how do we get the world to leave us alone?. I need to think it through.
It's a theme in the Banshees of Inisherin as well.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Thursday, 17 October 2024 13:48 (one year ago)
the first part of the vegetarian is one of those rare pieces of writing with that super powerful g-force momentum. very fond memories of reading it
― flopson, Thursday, 17 October 2024 16:14 (one year ago)
― Nabozo, Saturday, October 12, 2024 1:18 PM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink
you sound like one of the rabid YA reviewers on Goodreads who excoriates a novel because it doesn’t do exactly what they want it to do.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 February 2025 16:26 (nine months ago)
Finished 'We Do Not Part' this morning. First half was kinda boring, but glad I stuck with it, because the second part is extraordinary. This and 'Human Acts' is absolutely Nobel caliber literature.
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 08:15 (seven months ago)
https://www.theguardian.com/books/2025/oct/09/laszlo-krasznahorkai-wins-the-nobel-prize-in-literature-2025
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 October 2025 12:24 (one month ago)
On readers discovering his work for the first time, he added: “If there are readers who haven’t read my books, I couldn’t recommend anything to read to them; instead, I’d advise them to go out, sit down somewhere, perhaps by the side of a brook, with nothing to do, nothing to think about, just remaining in silence like stones. They will eventually meet someone who has already read my books.”
― jmm, Thursday, 9 October 2025 12:39 (one month ago)
And then go see Werckmeister Harmonies. Top three film of all time.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 9 October 2025 12:48 (one month ago)
Another Nobel shamelessly stolen from DJT - his mastery of all caps alone made him more than deserving.
― Naledi, Thursday, 9 October 2025 13:08 (one month ago)
This one is a little bit underwhelming to me though I like Lazlo..
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 October 2025 13:17 (one month ago)
I've only seen film adaptations of his novels.
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 October 2025 13:44 (one month ago)
I've enjoyed enough bleak plot free long sentenced novels on the human condition but satantango didn't do it for me.
― ledge, Thursday, 9 October 2025 13:48 (one month ago)
still waiting for Murnane to win tbh
― a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 9 October 2025 13:55 (one month ago)
The prize committee doesn't have the option of not naming any author, so there will always be some underwhelming choices.
1917 Karl Adolph Gjellerup Henrik Pontoppidan
I read this name listed in the OP and wonder if KAGHP's work is still in print in any country or any language and who on the present prize committee could name any of his works.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 9 October 2025 16:59 (one month ago)
those are two guys
― Tight steel. Alien forces. Megamachine vs. the sleazers. (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:02 (one month ago)
Lucky Per (by Pontoppidan) is great
― Tight steel. Alien forces. Megamachine vs. the sleazers. (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:03 (one month ago)
and yeah it's in print
https://penguinrandomhousehighereducation.com/book/?isbn=9781101908099
Correction: these names. Apparently Pontoppidan is still read in Danish. otoh, Wikipedia notes of Gjellerup, "Today Gjellerup is almost forgotten in Denmark."
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:06 (one month ago)
I can see why Gjellerup fell out of favor. His most well known book is about a European going to the Far East and discovering Buddhism.
― Tight steel. Alien forces. Megamachine vs. the sleazers. (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:12 (one month ago)
A Fortunate Man has an NYRB English language edition
― bulb after bulb, Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:35 (one month ago)
The White Bear too
― Tight steel. Alien forces. Megamachine vs. the sleazers. (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:38 (one month ago)
I love the idea of sitting down by the side of a brook and not leaving until you've talked with someone who has read a book by László Krasznahorkai.
― the way out of (Eazy), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:56 (one month ago)
Could take years.
To meet someone who has read one or to read one?
― Seductive Barrytown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 October 2025 18:16 (one month ago)
Pontoppidan was fully deserving. Everyone should read Lucky Per. And my guess would be everyone on the Nobel committee has read it.
― Frederik B, Thursday, 9 October 2025 20:39 (one month ago)
Lucky Per was wonderful!
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 October 2025 20:42 (one month ago)
get ready to learn hungarian buddy— a*dan f (@henribergson666) October 9, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 October 2025 08:47 (one month ago)
Szirtes has written a little poem for LK.
FOR LKIn this translation you will look in vain for afull-stop, Stops are there,but hard to find. Keepsearching. Oh look, there is one!He must have takenbreath. Time can stand stillfor the blink of a whale's eye.Then the whale goes down,spouting as it dives.— George Szirtes (@george_szirtes) October 9, 2025
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 October 2025 08:57 (one month ago)
do whales spout as they dive? this seems unlikely
(i have read moby-dick and know everything about the great fish)
― mark s, Friday, 10 October 2025 09:07 (one month ago)
I would google this and get an AI hallucination saying yes.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 October 2025 09:15 (one month ago)
Eat Pray Love
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 10 October 2025 10:32 (one month ago)
only foolish whales spout as they dive. wise whales inhale and hold their breath before diving, then spout as they surface.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 10 October 2025 16:21 (one month ago)
Sátántangó is an amazing film by Béla Tarr from 1994, based on László Krasznahorkai's first novel from 1985, which was only translated into English in 2012. A dozen of his other novels have been translated into English since then, but so far this is his only novel that is available on audio
Tarr also filmed The Melancholy of Resistance (1989) which is among Krasznahorkai’s best-known works, as Werckmeister Harmonies in 2000, another great film.
Krasznahorkai's themes seem to involve a surreal atmosphere, dense prose, and an exploration of societal collapse
Like with Jon Fosse (who won the Nobel Prize in 2023), his books are filled with endless run-on sentences, but where Fosse delivers a simple stream-of-consciouness sentence that lasts for a whole 7-part novel, Krasznahorkai's writing is filled with complicated clauses and subclauses with no breaks for a chapter. Both novelists are really interesting and their books lend themselves to an audio format
― Dan S, Saturday, 11 October 2025 00:18 (one month ago)