Search/Destroy Every Nobel Prize Winner For Literature

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1901 Sully Prudhomme
1902 Theodor Mommsen
1903 Bjørnstjerne Bjørnson
1904 Frédéric Mistral
José Echegaray y Eizaguirre
1905 Henryk Sienkiewicz
1906 Giosuè Carducci
1907 Rudyard Kipling
1908 Rudolf Christoph Eucken
1909 Selma Lagerlöf
1910 Paul Heyse
1911 Count Maurice Maeterlinck
1912 Gerhart Hauptmann
1913 Rabindranath Tagore
1915 Romain Rolland
1916 Verner von Heidenstam
1917 Karl Adolph Gjellerup
Henrik Pontoppidan
1919 Carl Spitteler
1920 Knut Hamsun
1921 Anatole France
1922 Jacinto Benavente
1923 William Butler Yeats
1924 Władysław Reymont
1925 George Bernard Shaw
1926 Grazia Deledda
1927 Henri Bergson
1928 Sigrid Undset
1929 Thomas Mann
1930 Sinclair Lewis
1931 Erik Axel Karlfeldt
1932 John Galsworthy
1933 Ivan Alekseyevich Bunin
1934 Luigi Pirandello
1936 Eugene O'Neill
1937 Roger Martin du Gard
1938 Pearl S. Buck
1939 Frans Eemil Sillanpää
1944 Johannes Vilhelm Jensen
1945 Gabriela Mistral
1946 Hermann Hesse
1947 André Gide
1948 T. S. Eliot
1949 William Faulkner
1950 Bertrand Russell
1951 Pär Lagerkvist
1952 François Mauriac
1953 Sir Winston Churchill
1954 Ernest Hemingway
1955 Halldór Laxness
1956 Juan Ramón Jiménez
1957 Albert Camus
1958 Boris Pasternak (declined the prize)
1959 Salvatore Quasimodo
1960 Saint-John Perse
1961 Ivo Andric
1962 John Steinbeck
1963 Giorgos Seferis
1964 Jean-Paul Sartre (declined the prize)
1965 Michail Sholokhov
1966 Shmuel Yosef Agnon
Nelly Sachs
1967 Miguel Ángel Asturias
1968 Yasunari Kawabata
1969 Samuel Beckett
1970 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
1971 Pablo Neruda
1972 Heinrich Böll
1973 Patrick White
1974 Eyvind Johnson
Harry Martinson
1975 Eugenio Montale
1976 Saul Bellow
1977 Vicente Aleixandre
1978 Isaac Bashevis Singer
1979 Odysseas Elytis
1980 Czesław Miłosz
1981 Elias Canetti
1982 Gabriel García Márquez
1983 William Golding
1984 Jaroslav Seifert
1985 Claude Simon
1986 Akinwande Oluwole Soyinka
1987 Joseph Brodsky
1988 Naguib Mahfouz
1989 Camilo José Cela
1990 Octavio Paz
1991 Nadine Gordimer
1992 Derek Walcott
1993 Toni Morrison
1994 Kenzaburo Oe
1995 Seamus Heaney
1996 Wisława Szymborska
1997 Dario Fo
1998 José Saramago
1999 Günter Grass
2000 Gao Xingjian
2001 Vidiadhar Surajprasad Naipaul
2002 Imre Kertész
2003 John Maxwell Coetzee
2004 Elfriede Jelinek
2005 Harold Pinter
2006 Orhan Pamuk
2007 Doris Lessing
2008 J. M. G. Le Clézio
2009 Herta Müller
2010 Mario Vargas Llosa
2011 Tomas Tranströmer
2012 Mo Yan
2013 Alice Munro
2014 Patrick Modiano
2015 Svetlana Alexievich
2016 Bob Dylan

scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 17:41 (nine years ago)

Blood on the Tracks is great...

scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 17:41 (nine years ago)

Search: Henrik Pontoppidan's hairdo...

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ea/Henrik_Pontoppidan_1913.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 17:49 (nine years ago)

poll!

F♯ A♯ (∞), Friday, 14 October 2016 17:50 (nine years ago)

Destroy: Theodor Mommsen's hairdo...

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/1902/mommsen_postcard.jpg

scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 17:53 (nine years ago)

Maeterlinck got a Nobel prize?

still lists its address as the recently razed home of “Morris” the (Jon not Jon), Friday, 14 October 2016 17:59 (nine years ago)

Also just seeing this name:

1965 Michail Sholokhov

Makes me smell unwanted shelves of mildewy goodwill hardcovers

still lists its address as the recently razed home of “Morris” the (Jon not Jon), Friday, 14 October 2016 18:01 (nine years ago)

And Sholokhov apparently never even wrote "And Quiet Flows the Don"!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:24 (nine years ago)

wonder if the number of nazis in this list is statistically significant

legitimate concerns about ducks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:27 (nine years ago)

i still have never read Beloved...i should read it.

scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:30 (nine years ago)

Excellent, good quality literature:

1907 Rudyard Kipling
1920 Knut Hamsun
1968 Yasunari Kawabata
1969 Samuel Beckett
1968 Yasunari Kawabata
1969 Samuel Beckett
1971 Pablo Neruda
1975 Eugenio Montale
1981 Elias Canetti
1982 Gabriel García Márquez
1987 Joseph Brodsky
1991 Nadine Gordimer
1994 Kenzaburo Oe
1995 Seamus Heaney
1996 Wisława Szymborska
1998 José Saramago
2004 Elfriede Jelinek
2007 Doris Lessing
2015 Svetlana Alexievich

Crap/indifferent/yet to see the fuss:

1913 Rabindranath Tagore
1929 Thomas Mann
1934 Luigi Pirandello
1946 Hermann Hesse
1947 André Gide
1948 T. S. Eliot
1949 William Faulkner
1952 François Mauriac
1955 Halldór Laxness
1958 Boris Pasternak (declined the prize)
1959 Salvatore Quasimodo
1957 Albert Camus
1963 Giorgos Seferis
1964 Jean-Paul Sartre (declined the prize)
1970 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
1972 Heinrich Böll
1973 Patrick White
1976 Saul Bellow
1979 Odysseas Elytis
1980 Czesław Miłosz
1985 Claude Simon
2008 J. M. G. Le Clézio
2009 Herta Müller
2011 Tomas Tranströmer

Read some, not enough to have a one word opinion on - actually going to check now:

1966 Nelly Sachs

Actually Evil:

1953 Sir Winston Churchill
2016 Bob Dylan

Not enough data in the bank to process to an onion.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:39 (nine years ago)

to process the rest of this list to an onion.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:41 (nine years ago)

and quiet flows the don is totally great.
some other sholokhov book i attempted to read was utter shit in the worst soviet social realist style

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:44 (nine years ago)

"Not enough data in the bank to process to an onion."

gertrude stein fan...

scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:47 (nine years ago)

Gabriela Mistral: first latin american winner.

is on the 5000 peso/5 lucas note in chile:

http://tomchao.com/sa/chile5fx.jpg

must be one of the only nobel laureates to be a school teacher of another

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:47 (nine years ago)

p sure Halldór Laxness is in tartarus reading his own work forever

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:47 (nine years ago)

i have never found the lessing...that i want to read. i've picked up quite a few.

scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:48 (nine years ago)

i was such a bellow fanboy when i was young. need to re-read some to see if i still feel the same way.

scott seward, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:48 (nine years ago)

this comes down to Mahfouz vs. IB Singer for me

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:50 (nine years ago)

i read the first two Canopus in Argos book but couldn't go on. i liked everything about them except actually reading them. i don't think they're exactly what doris got the prize for tho.

Roberto Spiralli, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:52 (nine years ago)

ooh or Saramago

lots I don't know on here, none I actively dislike.

xp

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 October 2016 20:52 (nine years ago)

im a bit ambivalent on lessing. golden notebook is pretty great. some of the other books - a proto "we need to talk about kevin" i had to read in school being the worst i can think of - not so good.

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:53 (nine years ago)

also lessing basically the opposite of a fun read. good to read on a rainy sunday when you're feeling glum.

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 20:56 (nine years ago)

a scottish person has never won the nobel prize for literature :'-(

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:17 (nine years ago)

Bob Dylan?

legitimate concerns about ducks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:18 (nine years ago)

is not a true scotsman

Οὖτις, Friday, 14 October 2016 21:19 (nine years ago)

apparently he's eligible for everything

legitimate concerns about ducks (Noodle Vague), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:22 (nine years ago)

Is Pearl S. Buck still considered a major literary figure?

Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:23 (nine years ago)

no, not really

a little too mature to be cute (Aimless), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:27 (nine years ago)

i like kipling just fine but rating him over mann, camus, gide, solzhenitsyn, faulkner is a little hard to figure

i have an old abridgment of mommsen's history of rome but have never really cracked it

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:47 (nine years ago)

kipling isnt in the top 20 on this list for me tbh

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 21:56 (nine years ago)

I probably should take Kipling out of there but I've been re-considering him at the mo. He isn't in the top 20 of mine (if I were to rank them which I won't as I'm not 21 anymore)

Mann - very boring technocratic prose in laying out of the issues in Magic Mountain. Musil was 10x better than this. I want to read his last novel tho'. Death in Venice is great and I do look for the edition of his diaries.

Solzhenitsyn - same but for Soviets. Shamolov and Platonov wrote better prose (partially because they believed in the USSR and were in conflict with it at the same time)

Camus - The Outsider was a bit lucky but I'm told he was v good looking.

Gide - got zilch from his stuff. Rejected the manuscript for Swann's Way, one of the worst literary judgements EVER.

Faulkner - the one guy I want to re-consider.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 October 2016 22:08 (nine years ago)

the fall > the plague > the outsider

*-* (jim in vancouver), Friday, 14 October 2016 22:09 (nine years ago)

Read all of those. Didn't hate it or anything..

xyzzzz__, Friday, 14 October 2016 22:16 (nine years ago)

kipling was a friggin' genius. there isn't anyone alive who can do everything he could do. i need more kipling.

who is someone who could write fiction and poetry as well as he could? i can't think of anyone.

scott seward, Saturday, 15 October 2016 00:10 (nine years ago)

i wanna stay in his house. not cheap but it's right up the road!

http://landmarktrustusa.org/properties/rudyard-kiplings-naulakha/

scott seward, Saturday, 15 October 2016 00:11 (nine years ago)

God it's actually incredible how much better the Irish are than all the others

the kids are alt right (darraghmac), Saturday, 15 October 2016 00:15 (nine years ago)

My keep list would be something like this: the only Harry Martinson I've read is an epic sci-fi poem set on a spaceship, and it was great

1907 Rudyard Kipling
1913 Rabindranath Tagore
1920 Knut Hamsun
1923 William Butler Yeats
1928 Sigrid Undset
1929 Thomas Mann
1930 Sinclair Lewis
1933 Ivan Alekseyevich Bunin
1934 Luigi Pirandello
1936 Eugene O'Neill
1947 André Gide
1948 T. S. Eliot
1951 Pär Lagerkvist
1952 François Mauriac
1955 Halldór Laxness
1957 Albert Camus
1961 Ivo Andric
1962 John Steinbeck
1964 Jean-Paul Sartre (declined the prize)
1968 Yasunari Kawabata
1969 Samuel Beckett
1971 Pablo Neruda
1972 Heinrich Böll
1973 Patrick White
1974 Harry Martinson
1978 Isaac Bashevis Singer
1980 Czesław Miłosz
1981 Elias Canetti
1983 William Golding
1986 Akinwande Oluwole Soyinka
1987 Joseph Brodsky
1988 Naguib Mahfouz
1995 Seamus Heaney
1996 Wisława Szymborska
1998 José Saramago
2002 Imre Kertész
2003 John Maxwell Coetzee
2004 Elfriede Jelinek
2005 Harold Pinter
2011 Tomas Tranströmer
2013 Alice Munro
2014 Patrick Modiano
2015 Svetlana Alexievich

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Saturday, 15 October 2016 01:23 (nine years ago)

Pre-Dylan, Muller and le Clezio seem like the last big mis-steps. Muller can be a good writer, but so utterly humourless, and le Clezio just seems like an overrated sadist.

I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Saturday, 15 October 2016 01:28 (nine years ago)

i need to read more william golding. his post-piggy books always sound really interesting to me, but i always forget to look for them in used shops which is the only place i'd ever find them. plus, he had the best first edition covers ever.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/7f/FreeFall.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/WillianGolding_TheInheritors.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/2f/TheSpire.JPG

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6d/PincherMartin.jpg

scott seward, Saturday, 15 October 2016 03:29 (nine years ago)

Actually Evil:

1953 Sir Winston Churchill
2016 Bob Dylan

I LOLed

(SNIFFING AND INDISTINCT SOBBING) (Tom D.), Saturday, 15 October 2016 10:08 (nine years ago)

Pre-Dylan, Muller and le Clezio seem like the last big mis-steps. Muller can be a good writer, but so utterly humourless, and le Clezio just seems like an overrated sadist.

― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), 15. oktober 2016 03:28 (eight hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I heard a lot of snickering at Modiano as well, or am I remembering it wrong?

Frederik B, Saturday, 15 October 2016 10:30 (nine years ago)

I totally forgot until this second that Coetzee won the Nobel Prize, weird

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:37 (nine years ago)

Anyway, Laxness's "Independent People" is one of the most magnificent things I've ever read, thank you Nobel committee for bringing it to my attention.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:38 (nine years ago)

Mann - very boring technocratic prose in laying out of the issues in Magic Mountain. Musil was 10x better than this. I want to read his last novel tho'. Death in Venice is great and I do look for the edition of his diarie

You might respond differently to the translator and Joseph and His Brothers, which I finished three weeks ago and wanted another 1500 pages of. The mountains of historical detail reinvented by a self-consciously 20th century narrator provoked the right kind of dialectical thinking.

otoh Thomas Mann exists so that he can win Nobel Prizes.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:41 (nine years ago)

Kipling's short stories are rather good: terse little things with a good ear for dialect that I'll pick over Hemingway's these days.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:42 (nine years ago)

who is someone who could write fiction and poetry as well as he could? i can't think of anyone.

― scott seward, Friday, October 14, 2016

Hardy and Lawrence.

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:42 (nine years ago)

1970 Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
1972 Heinrich Böll
1973 Patrick White

boy have I given these three a number of chances. Am I reading the right White? What's a good start?

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:46 (nine years ago)

I feel like Kipling and Yeats are the most imperishable here, but I haven't read most of the list. Kawabata is one I want to check out.

jmm, Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:49 (nine years ago)

otoh Thomas Mann exists so that he can win Nobel Prizes.

― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 15 October 2016 Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He was born for it! Even now absolutely encapsulates what the Nobel for lit is about and...its not pretty.

I don't know, historical novels ain't my bag. My line on translation is that someone who speaks to me will do so even if I come across a translation that is regarded as bad. So if I'm not liking something its either because its something I am not disposed towards or its bad, or I am but I don't like the writing, or these are things I am not ready for just now (on that one Dostoevsky passed me by at 17 but now I'm good with him)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 October 2016 12:54 (nine years ago)

If they set up a Nobel Discover Weekly I’ll check it out

There’s a Monster in my Vance (President Keyes), Saturday, 12 October 2024 14:34 (one year ago)

Tim Parks is an excellent reviewer of books... he hates Elena Ferrante (and the translator of her works, Ann Goldstein).
Gotta say these two statements don't go together in my book (so to speak).

dow, Saturday, 12 October 2024 17:23 (one year ago)

Fine with me to give it to someone who deserves to be better known, but I had no problem with finally giving it to Dylan (might've gotten a better response in the 60s?), not faulting him for celebrity, and thinking of songs as texts for performance, as with Nobels awarded to several playwrights.

dow, Saturday, 12 October 2024 17:33 (one year ago)

Can coors and nabozo say a bit about their response to *The Vegeterian*? Not fishing for an argument just wondered what inspired such a negative reaction.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 12 October 2024 17:44 (one year ago)

The central character is hollow, the two men are repulsive, it's grotesque, there is little connection between the three parts, and it's not really about vegetarianism. It's wallowing in its dark and gross content, and I didn't see any point, or maybe I didn't care for the social allegory. The first part would have been ok as a stand-alone.

Nabozo, Saturday, 12 October 2024 20:18 (one year ago)

and it's not really about vegetarianism

lol

agreed that the first section is the best though

flopson, Saturday, 12 October 2024 20:45 (one year ago)

The book is called The Vegetarian and its not about Vegetarianism?? Fuck!

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 October 2024 21:00 (one year ago)

Gotta say these two statements don't go together in my book (so to speak).
― dow, Saturday, 12 October 2024 bookmarkflaglink

Parks has his reasons, and most critics (and ppl) will have a blindspot. I disagree with them but I usually will look at whatever he is reviewing.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 12 October 2024 21:03 (one year ago)

It just seemed like a jarring sequence of statements, since I know (by your favorable posts about Ferrante) that you do disagree with him, but sure, we all have our blindspots, and I'll seek out more of his reviews, which I don't come across in my usual browsing, since I already have such a backlog of reviewed books--but should update---

dow, Sunday, 13 October 2024 01:38 (one year ago)

Non-fiction writers have been pretty comprehensively snubbed since they gave the 1902 prize to Mommsen. Not sure why they lopped off that whole arm of literature, but they have.

With the notable exception of Alexievich, who is incredible and who I only found out about and started reading because of the prize.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 13 October 2024 03:46 (one year ago)

The central character is hollow - she's been hollowed out by a patriarchal society
the two men are repulsive - how is this a problem
it's grotesque - sounding good
there is little connection between the three parts - they follow on from each other! Admittedly the first part WAS a stand-alone I think originally hence the bittiness
and it's not really about vegetarianism - NEITHER WAS HITLER
It's wallowing in its dark and gross content - if you think this is wallowing you should read some grimdark, ugh
and I didn't see any point, or maybe I didn't care for the social allegory - fair comment

Anyway she seems an odd choice for this kind of honour but amusing to think of H. Murakami waiting by the phone for the call that never comes AGAIN. Go and perv over some earlobes, fella. The only thing funnier would be if Ryū Murakami wins it next year.

the nervous laughter of fools (Matt #2), Sunday, 13 October 2024 06:49 (one year ago)

"It's wallowing in its dark and gross content"

"Oh no! My worldview has been challenged by a book! Oh no!!"

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 October 2024 13:31 (one year ago)

Good for her.

https://m.koreatimes.co.kr/pages/article.asp?newsIdx=384056

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 October 2024 13:31 (one year ago)

"I think of the lit prize as a nice way of introducing European audiences to other literary cultures.
Far more important that people get to know other South Korean/East Asian authors through Han Kang's prize."

that's a nice approach

but if you choose Han Kang as your starting point, maybe you're not going to want to go much further

I'll stop now

― corrs unplugged, 12. oktober 2024 16:07 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I think Han Kang already led a bunch of people to read South Korean literature. From a Guardian article from a few years back: Rocco points out that young people “don’t seem to be reading the languages that were classically regarded as the drivers of the canon”, that is, western European languages. In fact, of the 2m books of translated fiction sold in Britain last year, she tells me, “the single most popular language – just under half a million volumes – was Japanese” (not including manga), “followed by South Korean”. (Anton Hur, a Booker-longlisted translator, recently wrote that after The Vegetarian won in 2016, “all of a sudden, Korean literature was seen as edgy and fierce”.)

Frederik B, Sunday, 13 October 2024 18:05 (one year ago)

I think of wallowing as inertia, getting bogged down, sometimes miserablist complacency---not meant as a comment on her book, which I haven't read. Wallowing can also come across as enjoyment, resting, cooling off in the mud: an early 70s reference to Little Richard currently "wallowing in insane vaudeville" doesn't come across as that bad a thing, especially considering how many other performers didn't make it through those years (maybe wallowing iiv helped?)

dow, Sunday, 13 October 2024 18:53 (one year ago)

that's a nice approach

but if you choose Han Kang as your starting point, maybe you're not going to want to go much further

I'll stop now

― corrs unplugged, 12. oktober 2024 16:07 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

Even if this is as bad as you say, I don't think ppl would immediately give up on South Korean books.

People will get to read of characters in a different setting, who think about things in a slightly different way. Even if the result isn't to that reader's liking this stuff could get them to go further.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 October 2024 20:09 (one year ago)

I think Han Kang already led a bunch of people to read South Korean literature.
― Frederik B, Sunday, October 13, 2024 6:05 PM (yesterday)

Definitely made it easier for translators to get funding / gave a hook for people to promote other South Korean novels/novellas (Bae Suah's Nowhere To Be Found did decently in New Zealand - here's a good interview with the translator, Sora Kim-Russell: https://better-read.com/2019/03/13/found/ )

etc, Monday, 14 October 2024 03:33 (one year ago)

I discovered my wife bought The Vegetarian ebook some years ago, so I read it. I thought it was very good. Extraordinary energy to the first part, the way everyone treats her as though she has voluntarily and deliberately transformed into a monstrous giant insect. The other two parts very effective at taking you into the mind of a horrible jerk, and showing the experience of dealing with someone with severe mental health issues.

a mysterious, repulsive form of energy that permeates the universe (ledge), Thursday, 17 October 2024 08:30 (one year ago)

There's something to be said about those later sections that align the book with the Life and Times of Michael K - not so much that she enters a state of grace (one of Coetzee's central themes) but, crudely, how do we get the world to leave us alone?. I need to think it through.

It's a theme in the Banshees of Inisherin as well.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Thursday, 17 October 2024 13:48 (one year ago)

the first part of the vegetarian is one of those rare pieces of writing with that super powerful g-force momentum. very fond memories of reading it

flopson, Thursday, 17 October 2024 16:14 (one year ago)

three months pass...

The central character is hollow, the two men are repulsive, it's grotesque, there is little connection between the three parts, and it's not really about vegetarianism. It's wallowing in its dark and gross content, and I didn't see any point, or maybe I didn't care for the social allegory. The first part would have been ok as a stand-alone.

― Nabozo, Saturday, October 12, 2024 1:18 PM (four months ago) bookmarkflaglink

you sound like one of the rabid YA reviewers on Goodreads who excoriates a novel because it doesn’t do exactly what they want it to do.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Saturday, 15 February 2025 16:26 (nine months ago)

one month passes...

Finished 'We Do Not Part' this morning. First half was kinda boring, but glad I stuck with it, because the second part is extraordinary. This and 'Human Acts' is absolutely Nobel caliber literature.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 9 April 2025 08:15 (seven months ago)

six months pass...

On readers discovering his work for the first time, he added: “If there are readers who haven’t read my books, I couldn’t recommend anything to read to them; instead, I’d advise them to go out, sit down somewhere, perhaps by the side of a brook, with nothing to do, nothing to think about, just remaining in silence like stones. They will eventually meet someone who has already read my books.”

jmm, Thursday, 9 October 2025 12:39 (one month ago)

And then go see Werckmeister Harmonies. Top three film of all time.

Frederik B, Thursday, 9 October 2025 12:48 (one month ago)

Another Nobel shamelessly stolen from DJT - his mastery of all caps alone made him more than deserving.

Naledi, Thursday, 9 October 2025 13:08 (one month ago)

This one is a little bit underwhelming to me though I like Lazlo..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 October 2025 13:17 (one month ago)

I've only seen film adaptations of his novels.

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 October 2025 13:44 (one month ago)

I've enjoyed enough bleak plot free long sentenced novels on the human condition but satantango didn't do it for me.

ledge, Thursday, 9 October 2025 13:48 (one month ago)

still waiting for Murnane to win tbh

a tv star not a dirty computer man (the table is the table), Thursday, 9 October 2025 13:55 (one month ago)

The prize committee doesn't have the option of not naming any author, so there will always be some underwhelming choices.

1917 Karl Adolph Gjellerup Henrik Pontoppidan

I read this name listed in the OP and wonder if KAGHP's work is still in print in any country or any language and who on the present prize committee could name any of his works.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 9 October 2025 16:59 (one month ago)

those are two guys

Tight steel. Alien forces. Megamachine vs. the sleazers. (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:02 (one month ago)

Lucky Per (by Pontoppidan) is great

Tight steel. Alien forces. Megamachine vs. the sleazers. (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:03 (one month ago)

and yeah it's in print

https://penguinrandomhousehighereducation.com/book/?isbn=9781101908099

Tight steel. Alien forces. Megamachine vs. the sleazers. (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:03 (one month ago)

Correction: these names. Apparently Pontoppidan is still read in Danish. otoh, Wikipedia notes of Gjellerup, "Today Gjellerup is almost forgotten in Denmark."

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:06 (one month ago)

I can see why Gjellerup fell out of favor. His most well known book is about a European going to the Far East and discovering Buddhism.

Tight steel. Alien forces. Megamachine vs. the sleazers. (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:12 (one month ago)

A Fortunate Man has an NYRB English language edition

bulb after bulb, Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:35 (one month ago)

The White Bear too

Tight steel. Alien forces. Megamachine vs. the sleazers. (President Keyes), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:38 (one month ago)

I love the idea of sitting down by the side of a brook and not leaving until you've talked with someone who has read a book by László Krasznahorkai.

the way out of (Eazy), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:56 (one month ago)

Could take years.

the way out of (Eazy), Thursday, 9 October 2025 17:56 (one month ago)

To meet someone who has read one or to read one?

Seductive Barrytown (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 9 October 2025 18:16 (one month ago)

Pontoppidan was fully deserving. Everyone should read Lucky Per. And my guess would be everyone on the Nobel committee has read it.

Frederik B, Thursday, 9 October 2025 20:39 (one month ago)

Lucky Per was wonderful!

The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 9 October 2025 20:42 (one month ago)

get ready to learn hungarian buddy

— a*dan f (@henribergson666) October 9, 2025

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 October 2025 08:47 (one month ago)

Szirtes has written a little poem for LK.

FOR LK

In this translation
you will look in vain for a
full-stop, Stops are there,

but hard to find. Keep
searching. Oh look, there is one!
He must have taken

breath. Time can stand still
for the blink of a whale's eye.
Then the whale goes down,

spouting as it dives.

— George Szirtes (@george_szirtes) October 9, 2025

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 October 2025 08:57 (one month ago)

do whales spout as they dive? this seems unlikely

(i have read moby-dick and know everything about the great fish)

mark s, Friday, 10 October 2025 09:07 (one month ago)

I would google this and get an AI hallucination saying yes.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 10 October 2025 09:15 (one month ago)

I can see why Gjellerup fell out of favor. His most well known book is about a European going to the Far East and discovering Buddhism.

Eat Pray Love

a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 10 October 2025 10:32 (one month ago)

only foolish whales spout as they dive. wise whales inhale and hold their breath before diving, then spout as they surface.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 10 October 2025 16:21 (one month ago)

Sátántangó is an amazing film by Béla Tarr from 1994, based on László Krasznahorkai's first novel from 1985, which was only translated into English in 2012. A dozen of his other novels have been translated into English since then, but so far this is his only novel that is available on audio

Tarr also filmed The Melancholy of Resistance (1989) which is among Krasznahorkai’s best-known works, as Werckmeister Harmonies in 2000, another great film.

Krasznahorkai's themes seem to involve a surreal atmosphere, dense prose, and an exploration of societal collapse

Like with Jon Fosse (who won the Nobel Prize in 2023), his books are filled with endless run-on sentences, but where Fosse delivers a simple stream-of-consciouness sentence that lasts for a whole 7-part novel, Krasznahorkai's writing is filled with complicated clauses and subclauses with no breaks for a chapter. Both novelists are really interesting and their books lend themselves to an audio format

Dan S, Saturday, 11 October 2025 00:18 (one month ago)


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