Wherein We Elect Our Favourite Novel Of The 1920's

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Something for everyone in this batch I feel.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Ulysses by James Joyce 8
The Magic Mountain by Thomas Mann 5
The Trial by Franz Kafka 5
The Good Soldier Švejk by Jaroslav Hašek 3
Leave It To Psmith by P.G. Wodehouse 3
The Sound And The Fury by William Faulkner 3
To The Lighthouse by Virginia Woolf 3
Berlin Alexandersplatz by Alfred Doblin 2
Nadja by Andre Breton 1
The Castle by Franz Kafka 1
Decline And Fall by Evelyn Waugh 0
Lady Chatterly's Lover by D.H. Lawrence 0
The Age Of Innocence by Edith Wharton 0


Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:35 (six months ago) link

First one of these where I've read enough to cast a vote. It's between Wodehouse and Thomas Mann for me I think. Joyce, Woolf and Doblin also good.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:36 (six months ago) link

This is a surprisingly tough choice for me because Ulysses and Nadja are more or less equally embedded in my psyche

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:38 (six months ago) link

I might give Nadja the edge today and not just cos it's easier to carry around in my pocket

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:42 (six months ago) link

Nadja was the first flaneur narrative I read and I'm grateful to the college professor who assigned it.

The finalists:

To the Lighthouse
The Age of Innocence
The Good Soldier
Ulysses
Decline and Fall
Nadja

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:44 (six months ago) link

Švejk not to be confused with the other good soldier obv

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:55 (six months ago) link

Great list of books, but it's Ulysses, obv.

emil.y, Thursday, 30 November 2023 12:55 (six months ago) link

Throwing in a vote for Hasek

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 November 2023 13:34 (six months ago) link

I've read half of these. This was a really good decade. But surely Ulysses stands alone.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:02 (six months ago) link

Faulkner and both Kafkas not even mentioned yet which says something about what a solid list this is

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:24 (six months ago) link

An incredible decade. So much here in terms of variety (Waugh, Wodehouse and Lawrence)

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:29 (six months ago) link

An incredible decade. So much here in terms of variety

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:32 (six months ago) link

Twice!

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:35 (six months ago) link

fond memories of the faulkner though i only read it once and nothing else by him. didn't finish ulysses, defeated by the oxen of the sun, i'm minded to try again soon. wharton great, woolf fine, voting for the trial though.

organ doner (ledge), Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:39 (six months ago) link

"Time Passes" from To the Lighthouse is one of the best things ever written in English.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 30 November 2023 14:42 (six months ago) link

Some hideous gaps here for me. I'm going to divide the ones I haven't read into three:

Ones I intend to read: The Age Of Innocence, To The Lighthouse, The Good Soldier Švejk

Ones I might read ('might' because I'm either a) scared of it or b) worried I don't have the capacity any more): Ulysees, The Magic Mountain, Nadja, Berlin Alexandersplatz

Ones I'm pretty much resigned to not reading: The Sound And The Fury, Lady Chatterley,

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:28 (six months ago) link

I've read at least five of these (perhaps appropriately, I don't remember if I finished The Castle. This is hands-down Berlin Alexanderplatz, which has all the scope of Joyce but ranks a lot higher in human interest. Don't watch the Fassbinder series and think it's a suitable substitute, it's a middling adaptation.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:35 (six months ago) link

In contrast, the Scorsese movie is quite a good version of the Wharton novel.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:38 (six months ago) link

I'm not a fan of the series either. I haven't read the novel.

Lawrence isn't popular 'round here, but he wrote several books better than Lady Chatterly's Lover.

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:40 (six months ago) link

Hey 5 people voted for Lawrence in the last poll and surely they weren't all just trying to get a rise out of me

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:44 (six months ago) link

I voted for The Rainbow but don't have any interest in reading this Lawrence.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:53 (six months ago) link

truthfully it's Ulysses, but I can't not vote for The Castle

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:57 (six months ago) link

DALLOWAY

horseshoe, Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:06 (six months ago) link

I do really love age of innocence but DAAAAAAALLLLLLLLOOOOOOOWAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYY

horseshoe, Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:07 (six months ago) link

Dalloway?

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:18 (six months ago) link

Don't watch the Fassbinder series and think it's a suitable substitute, it's a middling adaptation.

Yeah, last episode excluded it's very social realist, while the novel does all sorts of stylistic shifts.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:19 (six months ago) link

Dalloway lost to Kafka in its year poll, though horseshoe did vote for it then as well so fair play!

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:20 (six months ago) link

The protagonist of Elif Batuman’s novel “Either/Or” is semi-obsessed with “Nadja”, which she is assigned in a college literature class. It made me curious to read it.

o. nate, Thursday, 30 November 2023 18:13 (six months ago) link

The first novel I read with photos and art. It blew 19-year-old me away.

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 November 2023 18:17 (six months ago) link

My favorite is The Magic Mountain, a magical philosophical novel where the reader becomes central to the story

Dan S, Friday, 1 December 2023 02:01 (six months ago) link

The Magic Mountain. I reread it last year, it still holds up and is miles beyond anything else he has written (Buddenbrooks, Dr Faustus, even Death in Venice being all tedious to some extent).

If I had a triple vote, I would have cast the others towards Age of Innocence and Berlin Alexanderplatz.

There are only four I haven't read (including the Faulkner).

Top picks I would add to the list are Svevo (Zeno's Conscience), Zamyatin (We), Mofolo (Chaka), Bulgakov (Heart of a Dog)... Super rich decade

Nabozo, Friday, 1 December 2023 10:14 (six months ago) link

My adds would be Henry Green's Blindness and Living.
My friends and I, boys and girls, read Lady Chatterly's Lover in high school, agreed that it was trey sweet as well as hot, age-appropriately to us--then we went to college and had to read some of his other novels.

dow, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 02:36 (six months ago) link

But he did have a way of turning up, with some short stories, travel writing (as Alfred mentioned recently), also relating to/getting excited about what he read as rebellious nullity in early Hemingway---also some very DH pomes, like this one from the Mott gatefold LP:

A Sane Revolution
If you make a revolution, make it for fun,
don't make it in ghastly seriousness,
don't do it in deadly earnest,
do it for fun.

Don't do it because you hate people,
do it just to spit in their eye.

Don't do it for the money,
do it and be damned to the money.

Don't do it for equality,
do it because we've got too much equality
and it would be fun to upset the apple-cart
and see which way the apples would go a-rolling.

Don't do it for the working classes.
Do it so that we can all of us be little aristocracies on our own
and kick our heels like jolly escaped asses.

Don't do it, anyhow, for international Labour.
Labour is the one thing a man has had too much of.
Let's abolish labour, let's have done with labouring!
Work can be fun, and men can enjoy it; then it's not labour.
Let's have it so! Let's make a revolution for fun!

dow, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 02:51 (six months ago) link

I've only read Psmith and Decline. I didn't like Decline, don't enjoy Waugh, and Psmith is one of my favourite Wodehouses, so I don't feel embarrassed to vote for it (even though it's likely not the best book here).

Psmith is unusual for Wodehouse, in that he has some measure of moral self-awareness, as opposed to being a likeable idiot -- but he's still a very memorable character. I wish there were more Psmith books.

Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 5 December 2023 11:24 (six months ago) link

Psmith is a perfectly creditable choice among these books. It's a pinnacle within the works of a master.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 December 2023 20:03 (six months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 00:01 (six months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 7 December 2023 00:01 (six months ago) link

Wharton a surprise, but I guess she already won one of these.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 7 December 2023 10:21 (six months ago) link

Glad I went with Breton

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 7 December 2023 12:23 (six months ago) link

Could I read the Psmith novels in any order like the Jeeves series?

Yes.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 7 December 2023 12:48 (six months ago) link

Psmith first appears as a secondary character in some hard-to-find early Wodehouse novels that center around a fictional English public school called Wryken which spend most of their attention on a clean, upstanding young cricket player named Tom. By accident my first Wodehouse novel was Mike at Wryken, because my local public library had an ancient re-bound copy and most of the other Wodehouse were checked out. Later on Wodehouse realized Psmith was pure gold and started to feature him in novels of his own. I'm glad I first glimpsed him in his embryonic form.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 8 December 2023 04:19 (six months ago) link

Wherein We Elect Our Favourite Novel Of The 1930's

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 8 December 2023 13:42 (six months ago) link

Go with "Leave it to Psmith" first, it really is wonderful and stands alone. The others are lesser but still fun, especially "Psmith, Journalist".

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 December 2023 17:09 (six months ago) link

Checked it out of the library.

it's also a Blandings Castle novel, which is a rich seam to say the least

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 December 2023 17:12 (six months ago) link

My assumption is that everything from the mid-1910s up to (and including) "Joy in the morning" is worth checking out, and everything that comes after is... variable. I haven't read "Mating Season" though.

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 December 2023 17:41 (six months ago) link

I enjoyed Uncle Fred In Springtime. Uncle Fred is to the manor born, and alarmingly wants to help, thus approaching a Bizarro World Jeevesdom.

dow, Friday, 8 December 2023 21:11 (six months ago) link


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