Wherein We Elect Our Favourite Novel Of The 1940's

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The Man Without Qualities by Robert Musil 5
I Capture The Castle by Dodie Smith 5
Native Son by Richard Wright 4
1984 by George "Read Some Fucking" Orwell 3
The Plague by Albert Camus 3
The High Window by Raymond Chandler 3
Titus Groan by Mervyn Peake 1
Animal House by George Orwell 1
Put Out More Flags by Evelyn Waugh 1
Mildred Pierce by James M. Cain 1
The Horse's Mouth by Joyce Cary 0
The Real Life Of Sebastian Knight by Vladimir Nabokov 0
Thomas The Obscure by Maurice Blanchot 0


Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 16 December 2023 15:00 (six months ago) link

quite a few years w/o a big canonical heavy hitter, and thus more idiosyncratic choices as well as ties

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 16 December 2023 15:01 (six months ago) link

hopeful Musil will win this, tho I think my vote will go to Camus

Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 16 December 2023 15:02 (six months ago) link

Animal House, nice work

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 16 December 2023 15:35 (six months ago) link

Chandler or Nabokov or Camus. Feels weird to see two Orwells in there.

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Saturday, 16 December 2023 15:46 (six months ago) link

Richard Wright cut Native Son to make it acceptable (still a close call in the early 40s, I suspect) to the Book of the Month Club, which was a huge deal back then. The restored Library of America version is astonishing, esp. the way he delves into Bigger's mental processes: poetic illumination, with 0 grandiosity, or downplaying/overplaying the violence the cost to all.
The Horse's Mouth is also remarkable, though not quite as unusual, in that the rowdy painter's imagery reminds me of some of Henry Green's London black-out fire warden details in Caught and Surviving , so that helps put Native Son over the top, myvotewise.
(As usual, haven't read most. 1984 is strong, but doesn't have Native Son's inner x outer life to such an extent, don't remember Animal Farm.)

dow, Saturday, 16 December 2023 18:52 (six months ago) link

it's about pigs

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 16 December 2023 19:51 (six months ago) link

Animal Farm was a clever critique of contemporary ideological politics, particularly Stalinism, by transposing it into an extended talking animal fable. It was seized on by anti-communist conservatives who praised it to the skies and ensured its wide dissemination. It was included in US high school curricula for the next few decades. Orwell obviously intended it as a call for a return to basic socialist ideals, but it was publicized and often taught as a repudiation of socialism.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 16 December 2023 20:22 (six months ago) link

Definitely my favorite Nabokov novel. The first one he wrote in English, and by far the most charming. It has a sort of tender sweetness that, earlier or later in his career, he would have laced with quite a bit more cyanide.

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 16 December 2023 20:31 (six months ago) link

Orwell: Pink Floyd's Animals over Bowie's Diamond Dogs.

Otherwise: Scott Walker's "The Plague" over the Cure's Peake-indebted "Drowning Man".

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 16 December 2023 23:02 (six months ago) link

Sonic Youth "Mildred Pierce" over Titus Groan "s/t" (1970 LP)
Anthony Phillips "1984" over Rick Wakeman "1984"

you have already voted in this dolt and cannot vote again (Matt #2), Sunday, 17 December 2023 00:33 (six months ago) link

I remember the synopsis of Animal Farm, but not the reading experience---maybe I never read it?
The same year our State Legislature-mandated Anticommunism studies kicked in, the Eighth Graders had to read that (haaated the misuse of animals, I heard), and we Ninth Graders devoured the ugly beauty of 1984, also appreciated Winston and Julia in bed---thanks, State Legislature!

dow, Sunday, 17 December 2023 01:34 (six months ago) link

The Horse's Mouth is hilarious. The film version (with script by Alec Guinness) is almost it smatch.

Nothing I know or love enough to vote for here.

A favorite from the decade is Cry, the Beloved Country. Sexus another. Notre-Dame-Des-Fleurs. Borges has a bunch too.

Nabozo, Sunday, 17 December 2023 10:37 (six months ago) link

Went for Musil, but otherwise Blanchot.

Love to read Cain.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 December 2023 10:52 (six months ago) link

Picking up Mildred Pierce in anticipation of Todd Haynes' series and expecting a pulp novel, I was blown away by its goodness: a fictional take on life for a working class woman during the Depression and New Deal. I recommend it.

Capture the Castle, one of my favourite novels. Will try to read the Carey, Cain and Sebastian Knight based on the above recommendations.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 17 December 2023 17:35 (six months ago) link

I would say that Pnin is a much more charming and just a better book than Sebastian Knight and maybe flamboyant tie goon might agree with me!

Ward Fowler, Sunday, 17 December 2023 17:42 (six months ago) link

Two beers good, four beers better

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 17 December 2023 17:47 (six months ago) link

Mildred Pierce is a good movie too, the best Joan Crawford (not our Loves Chachi JC, but the original) that I've seen.
Why no Henry Green on these threads? He's runnng oot of decades. This one's write-in: Caught, or is it Loving? Damn. Good thing I haven't read Back yet, probably.

dow, Sunday, 17 December 2023 18:58 (six months ago) link

Seconding. WHERE'S GREEN

Orwell being read more than Green is a tragedy for this world.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:04 (six months ago) link

Orwell obviously intended it as a call for a return to basic socialist ideals, but it was publicized and often taught as a repudiation of socialism

Yeah, the vast gulf between these two realities is still stunning. It almost has my vote but this is a tough decade, damn

stephen miller is not your friend (Eric H.), Sunday, 17 December 2023 20:08 (six months ago) link

Ward, I love Pnin too, but tend to think of it as a story collection (like Bech: a Book)

CthulhuLululemon (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 17 December 2023 21:46 (six months ago) link

Loving got 3 votes in the 1945 poll to Orwell's 7. This is what democracy looks like.

Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 17 December 2023 21:51 (six months ago) link

:-(

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 17 December 2023 23:11 (six months ago) link

Don't remember what I voted for, b-but hadn't read Loving then! Oh to go back--

dow, Monday, 18 December 2023 02:33 (five months ago) link

i capture the castle over peake, cary & nabokov. read it earlier this year and it's absolutely delightful. one day i'll get to the musil & blanchot.

no lime tangier, Monday, 18 December 2023 07:23 (five months ago) link

bump for the weekday crowd

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 19 December 2023 10:54 (five months ago) link

I've read orwell orwell peake camus chandler, not strongly for or against any of them. I always get i capture the castle and we have always lived in the castle mixed up but I've only read the latter.

organ doner (ledge), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 11:56 (five months ago) link

been meaning to read Thomas the Obscure for a long while. I don't know most of these. Meaning to get to Peake at some point, possibly 2024

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Tuesday, 19 December 2023 15:11 (five months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Friday, 22 December 2023 00:01 (five months ago) link

The only three I've read are The Plague, Put Out More Flags, and 1984 (but that was a long time ago). I have Mildred Pierce but haven't read it yet. I guess I'd vote for The Plague.

o. nate, Friday, 22 December 2023 16:39 (five months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Saturday, 23 December 2023 00:01 (five months ago) link

I've tried to start that Musil novel twice.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 23 December 2023 00:02 (five months ago) link

Musil and Pessoa's The Book of Disquiet have been the two things I feel have really joined the canon in the last 20 years.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 23 December 2023 11:47 (five months ago) link

Was genuinely worried Orwell might win this so thank fuck

Honnest Brish Face (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 December 2023 11:50 (five months ago) link


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