i'd like to get a good overview of the different possibilities for first-person writing. so i'm not looking for the use of first person in various genres, although it may well come to that.
examples:
the sorrows of young wertherthe big sleep
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Why does my IQ changes? (noodle vague), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:25 (nineteen years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)
― Why does my IQ changes? (noodle vague), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:33 (nineteen years ago)
and as far as that goes: a la recherche du temps perdu.
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:40 (nineteen years ago)
I'm wondering if Gulliver in the fourth book of Gulliver's Travels is the first example of an unreliable narrator?
― Why does my IQ changes? (noodle vague), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:51 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:54 (nineteen years ago)
― Run Ruud Run (Ken L), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)
good examples all.
and i don't know about jim thompson - looking him up it seems like i would like to read a lot of those - but seeing a description of 'the killer inside me' makes me think of a particular feature of the first person that is in lazy thinking about the novel one of its characteristic features (though not, i think, generally and for all of them - thus, lazy thinking): more intense reader-narrator identification. it would seem from the description that 'killer' might exploit that a bit - is that right, ken?
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)
i thought for a second you were saying "lazy thinking about the novel" was one of the characteristics of first-person writing
― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 20:52 (nineteen years ago)
tbh, not sure what you're asking...
― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:21 (nineteen years ago)
― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:22 (nineteen years ago)
― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)
also: are the narrators of any of these, with the possible exception of The Big Sleep, not unreliable?
― W i l l (common_person), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:25 (nineteen years ago)
Flatland!
― Casuistry (Chris P), Wednesday, 13 September 2006 22:59 (nineteen years ago)
― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 14 September 2006 01:01 (nineteen years ago)
― Fred (Fred), Thursday, 14 September 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)
Mark Haddon's The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time is what I think you're thinking of.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Thursday, 14 September 2006 03:11 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 14 September 2006 04:11 (nineteen years ago)
The JokePortnoy's ComplaintThe Sun Also Rises, A Farewell To ArmsWhite Noise
― W i l l (common_person), Thursday, 14 September 2006 07:57 (nineteen years ago)
― vingt regards (vignt_regards), Thursday, 14 September 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 15 September 2006 02:22 (nineteen years ago)
― Squirrel_Police (Squirrel_Police), Friday, 15 September 2006 02:26 (nineteen years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Friday, 15 September 2006 03:04 (nineteen years ago)
― Run Ruud Run (Ken L), Friday, 15 September 2006 19:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Run Ruud Run (Ken L), Friday, 15 September 2006 19:41 (nineteen years ago)
― Nick Smith (nms72), Friday, 15 September 2006 21:46 (nineteen years ago)
I also seem to recall that there's other first-person narrators within the story, though somewhat incidentally - doesn't Justine tell of her encounter to Frankenstein and ... Elizabeth?
And speaking of Shelley, I seem to recall a prof. getting all excited about the "layers" of narrative in "Ozymandias" -
I met a traveler from an antique landWho said: Two vast and trunkless legs of stoneStand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,Tell that its sculptor well those passions read,Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed,And on the pedestal these words appear:"My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings:Look upon my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"Nothing beside remains. Round the decayOf that colossal wreck, boundless and bareThe lone and level sands stretch far away.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Friday, 15 September 2006 23:17 (nineteen years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Saturday, 16 September 2006 06:29 (nineteen years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 17 September 2006 16:53 (nineteen years ago)
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Sunday, 17 September 2006 16:56 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Sunday, 17 September 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Sunday, 17 September 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Run Ruud Run (Ken L), Sunday, 17 September 2006 19:08 (nineteen years ago)
― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Wednesday, 20 September 2006 05:54 (nineteen years ago)
― justine paul (justine), Friday, 29 September 2006 22:41 (nineteen years ago)
― justine paul (justine), Saturday, 30 September 2006 08:48 (nineteen years ago)
― franny (frannyglass), Saturday, 30 September 2006 12:08 (nineteen years ago)
-- gypsy mothra (meetm...), September 17th, 2006.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 30 September 2006 18:56 (nineteen years ago)
An unreliable first person narrator, telling his story through a series of menus/recipes.
― Bob Six (bobbysix), Saturday, 30 September 2006 21:21 (nineteen years ago)
The Public Burning by Robert Coover is partially narrated by Richard Nixon.
― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 02:45 (nineteen years ago)
― badg (badg), Tuesday, 3 October 2006 02:53 (nineteen years ago)
― A Giant Mechanical Ant (The Giant Mechanical Ant), Wednesday, 4 October 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)