My problem with Auster is that none of his other novels, for me, have remotely got close to the NY Trilogy. Not only that, but it's diminishing returns. Some of the other eighties works were not too bad (his memoir The Invention of Solitude was pretty good; In The Country Of The Last Things not too bad), but in the 90s he wrote some really terrible novels (Mr Vertigo, Timbuctoo). I haven't read his latest, but the one before, Oracle Nights, was poor. Tired sloppy writing ridden with cliché, stereotypes rather than chartacters, unfunny wisecracks, lumpy plot, yet another outing for lone, existential NY writer protagonist-cum-alter ego etc etc. (and yet I guess ultimately readable, since I did finish it).
Anyway, thoughts on Auster?
― Revivalist (Revivalist), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 10:17 (nineteen years ago)
The cover art of his most recent novel was so terrible I could barely bring myself to read the blurb.
― franny (frannyglass), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 11:35 (nineteen years ago)
― Hugo Lovelace (Hugo Lovelace), Wednesday, 11 October 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, 12 October 2006 01:13 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 12 October 2006 01:47 (nineteen years ago)
― Ruud Comes to Haarvest (Ken L), Thursday, 12 October 2006 01:56 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 12 October 2006 01:57 (nineteen years ago)
I agree wholeheartedly here.
I was especially disappointed by The Music of Chance. Something about it seemed so leaden in comparison to "City of Glass." Leviathan was just a long "Locked Room." Dull, somber, literal, predictable. I kept asking, Where's the FUN at?
― The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Ruud Comes to Haarvest (Ken L), Thursday, 12 October 2006 17:19 (nineteen years ago)
i just read his autobio 'word of mouth' which eh, he's very proud of himself for having had, you know ... jobs ... and shit. well done!
it includes as an appendix his previously suppressed detective novel 'squeeze play', pub. under the name paul benjamin, which is more fun and funnier than his pomo takes on same. in fact it would probably add to the trilogy if it were a tetralogy, really.
― tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 17:36 (nineteen years ago)
― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)
So I went and bought Shel Silverstein's Runny Babbit instead.
― I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:38 (nineteen years ago)
― Mike Lisk (b_buster), Wednesday, 8 November 2006 22:57 (nineteen years ago)
"Adds" is an odd word here; but the comic book uses the comic medium in a more interesting way than the novel uses the novel medium. The underlying narrative ends up the same.
Another way of putting it might be that it's one of the few "comicizations" that doesn't read like one! It comes off as perfectly suited for the medium it's in.
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:15 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:16 (nineteen years ago)
it seems to kind of disturb the metafictional aspect of the plot, though the metafictional whatsit does nothing interesting at all so you know whatever.
the baseball card game auster designed looks pretty neat, i want to try and play it with someone. i don't really understand baseball, though.
― tom west (thomp), Thursday, 9 November 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 9 November 2006 06:06 (nineteen years ago)
― Revivalist (Revivalist), Thursday, 9 November 2006 09:27 (nineteen years ago)
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, 9 November 2006 17:31 (nineteen years ago)
― Doctor Casino (Doctor Casino), Friday, 10 November 2006 18:54 (nineteen years ago)
I agree with this. Moon Palace was actually the first Auster I read, and it inspired me to go on to read the Trilogy.
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 16:11 (nineteen years ago)
I wouldn't say that the metafictional stuff does nothing interesting. I think it adds to the atmosphere of Ben Katchor-esque, low-rent, NYC-existential noir - said atmosphere being the novels' greatest accomplishment.
― o. nate (onate), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)
― tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 17:32 (nineteen years ago)
― Paul Eater (eater), Tuesday, 14 November 2006 20:36 (nineteen years ago)
― 808 the Bassking (Andrew Thames), Saturday, 18 November 2006 08:37 (nineteen years ago)
he continually repeats himself and the meta tropes are way old hat, but i think he can still write, and find him infinitely more enjoyable than other middlebrow writers who rewrite the same stuff alla time a la murakami. i quite liked the one about the dude who destroys the only copies of his films, and i am embarrassed to say i was genuinely moved by 'timbuktu,' the one told from the point of view of a homeless dude's dog.
i think i like his devotion to the idea that we're controlled by weird coincidences we can't even begin to understand.
― Michael J McGonigal (mike mcgonigal), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 08:45 (eighteen years ago)
― s.clover, Saturday, 21 April 2007 07:32 (eighteen years ago)
― Casuistry, Sunday, 22 April 2007 02:54 (eighteen years ago)
― thomp, Monday, 23 April 2007 01:02 (eighteen years ago)
― thomp, Monday, 23 April 2007 01:03 (eighteen years ago)
― Casuistry, Monday, 23 April 2007 04:38 (eighteen years ago)
― s.clover, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 18:16 (eighteen years ago)
― Zeno, Wednesday, 16 May 2007 18:55 (eighteen years ago)
― underpants of the gods, Thursday, 17 May 2007 14:39 (eighteen years ago)
― Hurting 2, Friday, 18 May 2007 02:21 (eighteen years ago)
This weekend, read a compilation of true-life stories from NPR listeners, a project that Auster initiated and edited into book form.
Enjoyed it all very much, except the last section of 'Meditations', which rambled like a drunk at a party who's clapped his hand on your shoulder and won't let you go. Genuinely affecting submissions of coincidences and touches of the divine.
― scampering alpaca, Tuesday, 22 May 2007 13:39 (eighteen years ago)
Was it David Mazzucchelli who did the comic version of CoG? WAS IT??? (what, I don't know how to use google anymore?)
― If Snotboogie always stole the money, why'd you let him play? (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 6 June 2009 22:49 (sixteen years ago)
Google says yes.
― If Snotboogie always stole the money, why'd you let him play? (Dr. Superman), Saturday, 6 June 2009 22:50 (sixteen years ago)
Around these parts, the thing about Auster is that he fills a need. If he didn't exist, we'd have to invent him. And increasingly,we do.
― alimosina, Monday, 15 June 2009 01:47 (sixteen years ago)
James Wood rips Auster another one:
http://www.newyorker.com/arts/critics/books/2009/11/30/091130crbo_books_wood?currentPage=all
I always thought I didn't have much time for Wood as a critic but I have to say I agree absolutely with him here. Auster gets away with murder.
― Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 25 November 2009 15:50 (fifteen years ago)
Kind of makes me feel a bit relieved, as I've felt similar diminishing returns with the Auster I've read.
― Attention please, a child has been lost in the tunnel of goats. (James Morrison), Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:21 (fifteen years ago)
yea i usually loathe wood but hes otm here
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 26 November 2009 22:42 (fifteen years ago)
is this guy more popular abroad or am I just more in the dark than I think I am? I had never heard of him until I read that NYorker article earlier this week.
― a full circle lol (J0hn D.), Friday, 27 November 2009 00:15 (fifteen years ago)
I found the NY Trilogy a bit Jewish.
― Information. Motivation. Supplementation. (wanko ergo sum), Friday, 27 November 2009 00:35 (fifteen years ago)
i remember being 17 or so and reading the first half of leviathan thinking it was so fuckin brilliant
― johnny crunch, Friday, 27 November 2009 00:37 (fifteen years ago)
"is this guy more popular abroad or am I just more in the dark than I think I am?"
he's pretty well known in the u.s! and pretty popular too.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 November 2009 17:40 (fifteen years ago)
he's always been big with hip college kids and hip 20 and 30somethings. since the 80's at least. plus, people know him from the movies smoke and blue in the face.
― scott seward, Friday, 27 November 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago)
yea j0hn sorry yr just in the dark :(
― just sayin, Friday, 27 November 2009 17:43 (fifteen years ago)
haha my wife loathes the new york trilogy so much
― velko, Friday, 27 November 2009 17:47 (fifteen years ago)
this is a pretty amazing takedown.
― jed_, Friday, 27 November 2009 22:18 (fifteen years ago)
did not realise he used to be married to lydia davis!
― just sayin, Thursday, 17 December 2009 10:15 (fifteen years ago)
Indeed!
Some of their best work (Davis's Break It Down and Auster's The Invention of Solitude) seem to have sprung from their tumult.
― The Hood Won't Jump (Eazy), Friday, 18 December 2009 14:30 (fifteen years ago)
funny that they were both reviewed by james wood w/in a few weeks (he likes lydia davis a lot more)
― just sayin, Friday, 18 December 2009 14:32 (fifteen years ago)
B-b-but what does he think of Siri Hustvedt?
― alter cocker jarvis cocker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 December 2009 18:56 (fifteen years ago)
I always thought I didn't have much time for Wood as a critic but I have to say I agree absolutely with him here. Auster gets away with murder.That piece was great, thanks. Anytime reading or trying to read either of those guys has finally resulted in a payoff.
― alter cocker jarvis cocker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 December 2009 18:57 (fifteen years ago)
Auster makes a serious play for the Bad Sex Award in his upcoming novel Sunset Park:
“The first time they went to bed together, she assured him she was no longer a virgin. He took her at her word, but when the moment came for him to enter her, she pushed him away and told him he mustn’t do that. The mommy hole was off-limits, she said, absolutely forbidden to male members. Tongues and fingers were acceptable but not members, under no condition at any time, not ever… Did he understand? Yes, he understood but what was the alternative? The funny hole, she said. Angela had told him all about it and he had to admit that from a strictly biological and medical standpoint it was the one truly safe form of birth control in the world. For six months now he has abided by her wishes, restricting all member penetration to her funny hole and putting nothing more than tongue and fingers in her mommy hole.”
http://abcofreading.blogspot.com/2010/06/why-paul-auster-should-have-stopped.html
― Zelda Zonk, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:06 (fifteen years ago)
The mommy hole was off-limits
please every ILE regular who might enjoy this as much as I, find this thread in time
Lord hear my prayer
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:19 (fifteen years ago)
.......
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:24 (fifteen years ago)
no words
― call all destroyer, Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:25 (fifteen years ago)
mommy hole vs. daddy daycare
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)
in a steel cage
― get your bucket of free wings (underrated aerosmith albums I have loved), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:27 (fifteen years ago)
I knew a guy who referred to the vagina as the 'ha-ha hole'
obv. because it's polite for a child to refer to it as such but I like to imagine that when he finally entered one he chortled "ha-HA!"
― got you all in ♜ ♔ (dyao), Thursday, 1 July 2010 00:28 (fifteen years ago)
In Nomine Patris, et Filii, et Spiritus Sancti. Amen.
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 2 July 2010 13:36 (fifteen years ago)
woulda preferred "mothering hole" tbf
― INSUFFICIENT FUN (bernard snowy), Saturday, 3 July 2010 01:04 (fifteen years ago)
if anyone has a(n) LRB account i would gratefully read 3000 words trashing auster's latest
― mookieproof, Thursday, 2 February 2017 01:22 (eight years ago)
http://pastebin.com/ySP2zmRX
― I hear from this arsehole again, he's going in the river (James Morrison), Thursday, 2 February 2017 04:59 (eight years ago)
thanks!
― mookieproof, Thursday, 2 February 2017 14:03 (eight years ago)
Christ, Son of Author Paul Auster Charged in Fatal Overdose of 10-Month-Old Daughter
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Sunday, 17 April 2022 04:01 (three years ago)
Also:
In 1996, Daniel Auster played a minor role in a notorious nightlife murder case, in which the club promoter Michael Alig and an accomplice killed and dismembered a drug dealer, Andrew Melendez, also known as Angel, and threw his body in the Hudson River.Mr. Auster pleaded guilty in 1998 to possessing $3,000 that had been stolen from Mr. Melendez and was sentenced to probation. He was not implicated in the killing.
Mr. Auster pleaded guilty in 1998 to possessing $3,000 that had been stolen from Mr. Melendez and was sentenced to probation. He was not implicated in the killing.
The article describes Siri Hustvedt as his stepmother, which would mean Lydia Davis is his mother.
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Sunday, 17 April 2022 04:05 (three years ago)
Yes to all of the above.
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 April 2022 18:44 (three years ago)
I used to run into Paul Auster quite a bit in NYC and talked to him briefly sometimes and once even to SIri but the son never came up for some reason.
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 17 April 2022 19:07 (three years ago)
Not sure if I understand the storySo this was not an accident?This guy killed a baby…on purpose?
― calstars, Monday, 18 April 2022 00:23 (three years ago)
Could have been some form of negligence. However you slice it, it’s not pretty.
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 April 2022 00:26 (three years ago)
"Wouldn't stop cryin;, so I gave 'er just a little bit," maybe
― dow, Monday, 18 April 2022 01:22 (three years ago)
Ugh
― Ramones Leave the Capitol (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 18 April 2022 01:23 (three years ago)
Maybe the baby was digging around and came across heroin and fentanyl and chewed on it. Whatever happened, so damn grim.
― deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Monday, 18 April 2022 02:29 (three years ago)
Dan is a childhood friend of one of my oldest and closest friends. We hung out a bunch of times before the Angel menendez thing. He seemed to have eventually turned his life around and my friend reconnected with him while his gf was pregnant with the baby. He was so happy.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:56 (three years ago)
They spoke after her death and he was distraught. Said it was SIDS. This is all so horrific and fucked up. I think it was almost certainly accidental ingestion knowing what I know but fucking hell. And, yeah, his mom is Lydia D.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:58 (three years ago)
many x-posts - I sincerely doubt it was on purpose. Horrific regardless though.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Monday, 18 April 2022 22:59 (three years ago)
I'm sorry. A social worker friend has told me about such things, but gratuitous speculation here, and an accident does seem more likely.
― dow, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 02:45 (three years ago)
If his mom is Lydia Davis, why does the NYT article focus exclusively on his dad? (I had no idea that Davis and Auster had been married, though I see it was brief.)
― jaymc, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 04:36 (three years ago)
Because Auster is more famous than Davis, I imagine.
― Zelda Zonk, Tuesday, 19 April 2022 04:45 (three years ago)
Yes.
― Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 04:48 (three years ago)
But still.
― Wile E. Kinbote (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 04:49 (three years ago)
Just realized I wrote Menendez but obv meant Melendez. Yeah I assume because he’s more famous. Also - he’s written characters that are very obviously based on him and it’s been a very fraught relationship from what I can tell so maybe that’s why? And no need for sorries. I haven’t seen the guy since the late 90s and then only socially etc. It’s just an awful situation and my friend is so upset. I can’t stop thinking about it though. It’s just horrific.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Tuesday, 19 April 2022 07:15 (three years ago)
Daniel Auster is dead of an overdose:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/28/nyregion/daniel-auster-dead-arrest-overdose.html
― o. nate, Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:26 (three years ago)
awful
― BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 28 April 2022 17:31 (three years ago)
― Eric B. Mash Up the Resident (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 28 April 2022 20:27 (three years ago)
Yeah. The details surrounding it are fucking awful too but not anything I could/would share. Just unimaginably tragic.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 4 May 2022 21:31 (three years ago)
And now the man himself.
― Billion Year Polyphonic Spree (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 16:33 (one year ago)
As always with Auster, profound coincidences:
Amidst police violence at Columbia, CUNY and UCLA, the news that my friend Paul Auster has died. In 1968 he was one of the Columbia student occupiers, fleetingly captured by British filmmaker Peter Whitehead in a documentary called The Fall pic.twitter.com/9G98p0hTM1— Hari Kunzru (@harikunzru) May 1, 2024
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 17:25 (one year ago)
It’s weird to me that all the obits describe him as the literary avatar of Brooklyn. I’ve only read a handful of his books but Brooklyn as setting or theme is not something that I would point to.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:16 (one year ago)
It’s kind of superficial, but I think Smoke and Blue in the Face, combined with his physical presence in Park Slope, tie him to Brooklyn. I mean, Blue in the Face was practically a tourism-board sponsored film, emerging at the same time as Brooklyn Brewing and the rise of Williamsburg and all those things that made it acceptable for a maturing consumer to live there.
― paisley got boring (Eazy), Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:34 (one year ago)
I’ve never heard of those movies but that makes sense.
― o. nate, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 18:39 (one year ago)
I don't remember much about Music of Chance (something to do with trimming hedges, or I might be getting it confused with The Restraint of Beasts?) but I definitely remember the brutal ending.
New York Stories is "a good one, a boring one, a confusing one"
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 2 May 2024 10:25 (one year ago)
Ah OK now I get some of the IG stories I was seeing last night. I'm still so angry at his son. Sucks though. RIP.
― Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Thursday, 2 May 2024 10:47 (one year ago)
Never specifically thought of him as Brooklyn, more just NYC. When I think Brooklyn writers, I think Jonathan Lethem.
Anyway, RIP. In my college and post-college years, Auster loomed very large for me. I eventually found him a bit repetitive, but City of Glass remains all time for me. I should reread.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 2 May 2024 13:58 (one year ago)