does anyone still read jeanette winterson?

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in the go go 80's, she was all the rage. but i never hear about her anymore. here anyway. it's probably different in the u.k. copies of sexing the cherry are still ubiquitous at yard sales and thrift stores though. so, i often think of her, since those are the places that i frequent. oh, and she is a greengrocer now? i read that somewhere. or she owns a food shop or something. does she sell erotic chocolates? anyway, i liked the one about napoleon's dwarf. when did she stop being hip and happening?

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 11:00 (nineteen years ago)

She still has columns in newspapaers and so on, I think she is probably quite comfortable. But I don't know.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller 68), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

She stopped being hip and happening when she started selling erotic chocolates.

Mr. Que (Mr.Que), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

Two years of an MFA program meant being assigned two different Winterson books, so she's certainly still taught. And I get the sense that lots of people still read Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 16:30 (nineteen years ago)

Oh also lesbians, whether budding undergrad English-major lesbians or not. (I think I've seen Written on the Body employed in two attempted lesbian seductions, actually!)

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 16:36 (nineteen years ago)

She writes a regular column for the Books section in Saturday's Times, but she's pretty insufferable and I rarely read it. Her monstrous ego has always been pretty hard to take, but nowadays that's aggravated by her determination to push absurdly conservative, elitist, almost quasi-mystical views of the importance of High Art and Proper Literature (and, of course, by not-so-subtle implication, People like Her). Some of her musings in this vein prompted the normally mild-mannered John Carey to describe her as "barely sane" which struck me as pretty fair.

frankiemachine (frankiemachine), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 17:23 (nineteen years ago)

strange to think you were present at two attempted lesbian seductions, n.

Josh (Josh), Thursday, 26 October 2006 02:44 (nineteen years ago)

Written on the Body is all I've read. that book is annoying as shit. it's one of those books that reads like the author is extremely self-satisfied all out of proportion to the quality of the book. like something by A.S. Byatt. or Donna Tartt. or (I don't hate women!) Jonathan Franzen.

horseshoe (horseshoe), Thursday, 26 October 2006 04:05 (nineteen years ago)

Sexing the Cherry and The Passion are both fun, light vaguely historical quasifantasies with some good sentences. Bring on the enchanted princesses in magical towers, the tricksy gamblers in carnival masks, the benevolent prostitutes, the sparkling cities built on cloud-tops, yadda yadda. It's all fine and can even be quite charming. It occurs to me that they owe a bit to Calvino's Invisible Cities.

It was when she tried to get all Ponderously, Seriously Literary that she began to bore. So I have no use for Written on the Body but I still sometimes grab Sexing the Cherry for when I'm waiting for a train or a doctor's appointment and I want something light that I know won't piss me off.

The Mad Puffin (The Mad Puffin), Thursday, 26 October 2006 12:00 (nineteen years ago)

Clearly, J, they were text-based seductions.

nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 26 October 2006 21:20 (nineteen years ago)

b-b-but the signified is always ABSENT yeh? etc.


does anyone who knows anything about winterson suppose that there's any conceivable connection between that book and the dream willow has, in buffy, where she's painting runes or whatever on tara's back?

Josh (Josh), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

Written on the Body is seriously bad. The voice of the protagonist is extremely annoying and self-absorbed. Thankfully it was quite short but I was put off any other Jeanette Winterson after that. I read it with high anticipation because a lit lecturer discussed it with reference to Foucault and in THEORY, it sounded interesting. How wrong. Maybe one day I shall try something else written by her, but quite frankly, there are loads of other books to read before then.

salexandra (salexander), Thursday, 26 October 2006 22:36 (nineteen years ago)

Ha, yeah, Josh, I've thought about that, but I think the brushwork-on-body thing was probably borrowed more from the 9,845,284 Asian-related indie films that did this (including that one I can't remember that stars Ethan Hawke's dick).

nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

is the book anywhere near as good as the bruce dern/maud adams movie tattoo?:

"Karl Kinsky, an unbalanced tattoo artist, becomes dangerously obsessed with Maddy, a model he meets when he's hired to paint temporary tattoos on a group of women for a photo shoot. As his obsession grows, Kinsky becomes increasingly determined that Maddy should bear his "mark" ... forever."

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

oranges are not the only fruit = very good

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Friday, 27 October 2006 18:48 (nineteen years ago)

She writes a regular column for the Books section in Saturday's Times, but she's pretty insufferable and I rarely read it. Her monstrous ego has always been pretty hard to take, but nowadays that's aggravated by her determination to push absurdly conservative, elitist, almost quasi-mystical views of the importance of High Art and Proper Literature (and, of course, by not-so-subtle implication, People like Her). Some of her musings in this vein prompted the normally mild-mannered John Carey to describe her as "barely sane" which struck me as pretty fair

I read an article about her recently in a journal about women and religion, and this comment supports that article completely. The author basically said that Winterson has become so far removed from the woman she was when she wrote Oranges Are Not the Only Fruit that it's getting hard to even keep an industry going around her, because she only wants to talk about bonkers christianity and not about discovering her inner lesbian or anything. So all the people who read her early stuff and go wow! great! are repulsed by the way she is and the way she writes now, and vice versa. Apparently. I've never read anything by her, so I wouldn't know.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 27 October 2006 19:03 (nineteen years ago)


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