Infinite Jest - the last laugh

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I received David Foster Wallace's Infinite Jest for Christmas. Upon leafing through it, it appears to me that the man doesn't want anyone to read his book. Some paragraphs last for four pages, for dog's sake.

Tell me the book's worth reading, please.

SRH (Skrik), Saturday, 6 January 2007 12:04 (eighteen years ago)

'infinite jest - the last laugh' is in fact the title of the sequel, in which hal starts his own import-export business and gately goes into psychotherapy.

tom west (thomp), Saturday, 6 January 2007 12:12 (eighteen years ago)

It's infinitely worth reading, of course. But, seriously, I love it! Yes, it's frustrating at times, but extremely entertaining at others. I've read it twice, if that helps.

Cherish (Cherish), Saturday, 6 January 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

Give it a go, lots of people love it. If you're not going to like it, you'll probably know pretty soon. (I didn't really like it, and stopped after maybe 200 pages.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 6 January 2007 18:45 (eighteen years ago)

it may help you to know that thomas bernhard and samuel beckett have both written novels entirely without paragraph breaks, and that william gaddis's last published text does not even start with a paragraph-indent

tom west (thomp), Saturday, 6 January 2007 21:52 (eighteen years ago)

(Genesis written on an egg. No breaks between words, sentences, paragraphs, etc., as is traditional for the text.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 7 January 2007 01:16 (eighteen years ago)

(Genesis 1, rather. Obviously that's not all of Genesis.)

Casuistry (Chris P), Sunday, 7 January 2007 01:19 (eighteen years ago)

Excellent book, really. Like any other book, you have to put up with certain things that Wallace does that may seem really annoying at first. The endnotes are kind of a pain in the ass, but after awhile you get used to live and I loved their digressive quality. It is very very funny, requires a lot of attention, but is so worth it.

VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:14 (eighteen years ago)

but after awhile you get used to live

you get used to them, is what I mean

VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Monday, 8 January 2007 16:15 (eighteen years ago)

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hearditonthexico (rogermexico), Monday, 8 January 2007 18:15 (eighteen years ago)

I'd say the trick to enjoying this is letting go of whatever part of you is interested in getting to the end, and concentrating on just enjoying what's in front of you. I mean, a really long, digressive section -- or a four-page paragraph -- isn't inherently taxing, so long as it's funny or affecting or involving, which I'd say most of this book is. Flipping to the endnotes can be a little draining, and I'm sure you've heard that the very ending isn't conventionally, umm, satisfactory -- but other than that, I don't think much of the text is any more arduous than most similar lit-fic books. There's just, like, more.

But I guess plenty of people are bugged by it, so ... I dunno, there's a section within the first 20-40 pages that endlessly details the thought process of a person waiting for some weed to be delivered to him. I'd guess that's a good test: if you spend that whole section chafing, the book might bother you. If you're content to just coast along and be entertained by the content of that section itself, there's a good chance you'll enjoy it all. (And if you happen to enjoy just immersing yourself in something like that, Infinite Jest offers something shorter books obviously don't, which is the chance to spend a really long time immersed in one very large book-world!)

nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 8 January 2007 23:36 (eighteen years ago)

man, i find myself wanting to reread it again now

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 00:40 (eighteen years ago)

. . . Infinite Jest offers something shorter books obviously don't, which is the chance to spend a really long time immersed in one very large book-world!

Nabisco, despite what you said over on the punk thread, I don't always hate it when you post! This is exactly right, especially the "immersion" part. The book is a complete and total immersion into a world, or book-world, and it is one of the reasons that I suggest this book to people. It does it in a way that few other books even come close to.

VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 14:41 (eighteen years ago)

I got the impression that this book was written on methamphetamine, while the author was chemically convinced of the absolute perfection of every stray word that happened to spew forth from his exploding mind. The sentences are all nice. The rythms of language are natural and inviting. It's got good jokes, interesting characters, clever insights, wild ideas...

And Wallace's appallingly narcissistic infatuation with his own genius. He's writing an endless ode to the wonder-brain. At first it's dizzying, dazzling. You buy into it, bask in it, and it sucks you along. You feel brilliant, too, by association. Or at lest it's easy to be charmed by such prodigious intelligence. But after a while, Wallace's fascination with his own amazing thought-world becomes tedious, circular and (ultimately) insulting.

Didn't do much for me. What happened to the guy who wrote "Westward the Course of Empire Takes its Way"?

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:48 (eighteen years ago)

okay now you, Adam, I hate. Westward was pretty much a piece of crap: it had elements that were similar to IJ but weren't rendered nearly as well as IJ.

Really, Adam: "the sentences are all nice." Please.

VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 16:51 (eighteen years ago)

It's oddly easy to get used to hate. I'm not recommending the experience, just saying...

Anyway, I dug "Westward" because I thought it was honest. An attempt to deal with fallout of ironic, reflexive awareness. Once you're lost in the funhouse, how do you connect with and express authentic emotion? I liked it because I felt there was more to the story than its games and ideas.

Didn't get anything like that from IJ. Come on, we all like different sorts of things. Why should it surprise or bother you that I didn't like yr. fave book? I mean, lots of folks apparently did...

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 17:04 (eighteen years ago)

I'm just surprised you like Westward so much and hated IJ. And I've never heard of someone feeling "brillant" for reading a brilliant book.

VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 17:08 (eighteen years ago)

"clever", though, that's another story

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 17:35 (eighteen years ago)

or "smurt"

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 17:36 (eighteen years ago)

i'm curious as to whether by "being immersed in one very large book/world" nabisco means anything more than would happen with, say, tolstoy. or richardson.

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 17:38 (eighteen years ago)

Tom's right. I meant smurt.

Adam Beales (Pye Poudre), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 17:42 (eighteen years ago)

I dunno, there's a section within the first 20-40 pages that endlessly details the thought process of a person waiting for some weed to be delivered to him.

There was something about reading about addiction that made me anxious and self-loathing. Both times I've tried reading the book I've stopped at around page 100.

jaymc (jaymc), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 23:19 (eighteen years ago)

this is my favorite book.

the waiting for weed part actually played a big part in me quitting smoking ganj actually. it seemed so loathesome after that.

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 23:53 (eighteen years ago)

what did y'all think abt. consider the lobster? i'd lost my premiere magazine with the big red one, so i was so happy to have that again...that might be his best work, jeez it's amazing...

i almost quit DFW after brief interviews that seemed like a mean, horrid parody of himself but i liked oblivion and lobster so i guess i'm back on board...also the roger federer fanboy thing he did in NY Times was great as well, but i'm a tennis dork.

M@tt He1geson: Sassy and I Don't Care Who Knows It (Matt Helgeson), Tuesday, 9 January 2007 23:54 (eighteen years ago)

i like brief interviews although i suppose now i would find its humour pretty humourless. actually when i read and reread it in sixth form it was kind of an interesting lesson in where my calibration for irony was going, my different responses to 'the depressed person' and other stuff of that ilk

tom west (thomp), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 04:58 (eighteen years ago)

I think his short stuff pales in comparison to the long stuff. Long stuff=just Infinite Jest. I didn't get much out of Oblivion, I thought it was wildy uneven, and the only parts of Brief Interviews I dug were the interviews and Forever Overhead.

VALLEY OF BLIZZARDZ (Mr.Que), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 14:58 (eighteen years ago)

Loved Consider the Lobster -- I think at this point he's more extraordinary as an essayist and journalist than he is as a writer of fiction. But part of that, I think, might be because he seems to have exhausted his original style as a writer of fiction -- it wouldn't surprise me if, years down the road, he got a second wind in a different, more developed style.

nabisco (nabisco), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 16:17 (eighteen years ago)

I am happy to hear this. I checked out Consider the Lobster from the library last week.

Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 17:45 (eighteen years ago)

Yeah, I'm on record as liking his essays far more than his fiction.

jaymc (jaymc), Wednesday, 10 January 2007 22:38 (eighteen years ago)


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