ILB Book Club - Volume Three?

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Anyone up for it? I'm gonna stay out of this one. I have too much to read!! Well, actually, if it were a short story or novella I could be persuaded.(Actually, a short story wouldn't be a bad idea. Everyone could just read it in a bookstore or library with no long-term reading/buying commitments. Or is that cheating when it comes to book clubs?) I am gonna stay out of any decision-making process though. It's up to you guys! Will the book club flourish or wither on the vine?

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 March 2004 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I think a short story / novella is the road to follow. I don't wish to pick one, mind.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 19 March 2004 13:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Something shorter would work for me. I won't have as much reading time left over, since I've just embarked on Dahlgren.

o. nate (onate), Friday, 19 March 2004 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

I think this is a great idea.

I am making my way through "Best Short Stories of 2004" and some of the stories just seem to end and others throw a wrench in the works and leave me going, "huh?"

I'd love an opportunity for someone to help me understand the modern short story.

Clellie, Friday, 19 March 2004 15:56 (twenty-two years ago)

A short story is fine with me too, I'm really a bit screwed for reading time at the moment. I'm battling with a part-time degree and we've got an eight week-old baby. But this board has somewhat re-animated my urge to read and I don't want to let that die all over again, so I'm all for this book group malarkey.

So, uh, any suggestions? Would quite like to read Dostoevsky's The Eternal Husband myself, one of his late works from around the time he was knocking out those huge, voluminous masterpuddings of his. It's short! It's cheap! It's an excuse to drink vodka! And it also sort of ties in time-wise with Mr Flaubert. Or we could fast-forward to the 20th century instead if people are through with petty-coats and pocket-watches. Heck, the 21st even...

(x-post with Clellie: I'm game if everyone else is)

NickB (NickB), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Let's do it!

End of the month too soon? I think we need to realign the book with the calendar month or it confuses me no end.

Dostoevsky's The Eternal Husband. Any objections?

Mikey G (Mikey G), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

Can I make a recommendation for one of the stories from ZZ Packer's book 'Drinking Coffee Elsewhere'? The title story would be a good one.

bookdwarf (bookdwarf), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Congratulations on the bundle of joy, Nick! I'll bet you are getting lots and lots of sleep! It's actually kind of fun to read when you are hallucinating due to sleep deprivation.

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Crap, now I feel dumb for not reading more carefully. The Eternal Husband is a good choice too. Unless anyone wants to read modern stuff.

bookdwarf (bookdwarf), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks Scott! The downside is falling asleep while reading and dribbling all over your book. ;o)

NickB (NickB), Friday, 19 March 2004 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

how about "on bullfighting"? it's relatively short.

cozen (Cozen), Friday, 19 March 2004 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Wow, that would make a good Taking Sides: A.L.Kennedy's "On Bullfighting" -vs- Joyce Carol Oates's "On Boxing".

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 19 March 2004 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

I vote for the ZZ Packer.

Clellie, Friday, 19 March 2004 22:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe we should hold this open for a while to get some more votes so we get the maximum amount of readers on board. That means that if people have to take a break, we're not just going to wither and droop and die... And we want new people! Yes, fresh blood!!

Who is ZZ Packer by the way? What's them Z's stand for?

NickB (NickB), Saturday, 20 March 2004 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Hm, I was all set to vote for Dostoyevsky and then I, too, went, who's this zz? Wanna learn!

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Saturday, 20 March 2004 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)

"So what do you wanna read?"
"I dunno. What do you want to read?"
"I dunno. Something good."
"That narrows it down. Like what?"
"I dunno. What d'ya think?"
"Hell if I know."

I love these threads - they're like the eternal "what do you want for dnner questions."

I'm Passing Open Windows (Ms Laura), Saturday, 20 March 2004 08:01 (twenty-two years ago)

As a mother of four I am accustomed to stepping in and settling the score.

Short stories are short. It seems we should be able to set up a calendar and have one short story per week. Discussion to begin on Monday morning. If you put the short story on the calendar, you have to start of the discussion.

Give us 2 weeks before we start the first story so we can find it.

How does that sound? I like that the suggestions are a smattering of everything. I just think we need a list/order/leader.

Am I being pushy? I have no social skills with grownups anymore.

Clellie, Saturday, 20 March 2004 14:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm in!

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Sunday, 21 March 2004 23:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Clellie is speaking sense here, I think.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Sunday, 21 March 2004 23:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Sounds good. For those unfamiliar with ZZ Packer, here is a review from the Guardian of her book of stories:
http://books.guardian.co.uk/reviews/generalfiction/0,6121,1162826,00.html
Here is an old interview Robert Birnbaum did with her (he does great author interviews):
http://www.identitytheory.com/interviews/birnbaum103.html
And apparently ZZ is her nickname, not initials for something else. I loved her book. But would also like to read some other short stories.

bookdwarf (bookdwarf), Monday, 22 March 2004 04:26 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm keen to do this, if it's short stories! I read a ZZ Packer story about kids at a camp in Zembla, I thought it was solid without bein' that great, but I'd like to be proved wrong, so I say "yes, yes with the Packer". Yes.

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Monday, 22 March 2004 05:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Clellie, you are a Natural Leader. So. What're we doing?

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Monday, 22 March 2004 17:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Where can we put up a calendar and then fill it in?
Maybe a new list and it only lists the week?

The first week I think should be either the first or second week of April starting on the monday.

Then people can sign up for the folowing weeks.

If you sign up for say, "A Perfect Day for Bananafish" then you have to start the conversation a rolling.

Thank you for not calling me a pushy broad. Remember I am still cutting food into morsal size bites for at least the smallest two at every meal.

Although when the husband took me out for Valentine's Day I was in a deep discussion about the current popularity of memoir and looked down to see I had cut up his steak.

Motherhood is many things. But mostly embarassing.

Clellie, Monday, 22 March 2004 23:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Does somebody have a calendar?

I can only find the one from the kids school and I can't figure out when Mondays are. I doubt any of you need to know when Famous Persons Day is.

Clellie, Monday, 22 March 2004 23:12 (twenty-two years ago)

"Although when the husband took me out for Valentine's Day I was in a deep discussion about the current popularity of memoir and looked down to see I had cut up his steak."

That is quite superb.

Mikey G (Mikey G), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)

four weeks pass...
Scott, Clellie. Whatever happened to our short story thing?

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 00:46 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno. It went poof a little bit. You will notice my spiel at the beginning of this thread where I said that I was staying out of it this time. Let me make a suggestion: If it still seems like a good idea, and i think it is, perhaps the best way to go about it would be for people to fing short stories that are already on the web that are good and have people read those. Makes sense, no? No buying or locating books. A simple link to a great story. Whaddyathink? That Elkin story that I linked somewhere else would be great. Lemme find it.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 01:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Here it is:


http://www.elsegundousd.com/arena/classes/englishxa/poetics.html

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

A Poetics For Bullies by Stanley Elkin. God, I love that story. Anyway, that's an example. It has typos, but it's readable. We could try that one or try something else if someone cares enough to come up with something. If people still want to read something, post here. We could read a story a week! Or every two weeks and then discuss. It's up to everyone else.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Another option might be "The Honored Dead" by Breece Pancake.

http://athena.english.vt.edu/~appalach/readings/pancake.htm

otto, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Breece is everyone's favorite tragic young dead guy! I'll read it. That's two for Mr. Pancake.

scott seward (scott seward), Wednesday, 21 April 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

A plus is that the story's somewhat timely, too, given the situation in you know where.

otto, Wednesday, 21 April 2004 15:43 (twenty-one years ago)

---oppressive silence---

I don't suppose anyone's bothered with "The Honored Dead," have they? We could try something else.

otto, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 03:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm just printing it out now...

Ann Sterzinger (Ann Sterzinger), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 03:24 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

Would there be interest in doing this again on a looser schedule - maybe one book a month? Or is it already going on and I'm out of the loop? We could make a suggestions thread in the last week of the month and then poll to figure out what book to read. Or whatever!

☠ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 13 March 2011 16:07 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah we did a book club of sorts, and just the one last year w/'The Last Samurai' by Helen DeWitt. If you have a look at the thread we broke it down into a range of pages per week for about 4-5 weeks. That was great as it allowed me to read it alongside whatever else I was personally interested in.

I think the main thing is to get a good list and end up with a book we'd all be enthusiastic to approach. And I already see that for 'A Visit from the Goon Squad' by Jennifer Egan.

It would be difficult to do one a month every month. Could start with that ambition but walk before running w/that.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 March 2011 16:21 (fifteen years ago)

maybe seasonal? discussion could go on throughout the season w/ people adding their comments as they finish the books - very loose. same method of book selection, happening as the discussion of the previous book dies down. i think it could work! if people want to do it, that is.

☠ (roxymuzak), Sunday, 13 March 2011 16:34 (fifteen years ago)

Yeah, based on past attempts at this I'd say seasonal would be a better bet. And since spring is just about here...

I would certainly be fine with that.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 13 March 2011 16:45 (fifteen years ago)

sounds alright, also i just preordered that book

thomp, Sunday, 13 March 2011 17:13 (fifteen years ago)

I'm In. I'd definitely like to do "Goon Squad."

Romeo Jones, Sunday, 13 March 2011 19:24 (fifteen years ago)


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