Has anyone read 'The Names' by Don DeLillo?

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I am almost done with this book, but I have to say I am not enjoying it at all. Is there something I am missing? Has anyone read it, loved it and can explain why?

bookdwarf (bookdwarf), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Also, what do you do when you don't like a book? Do you stop reading it or keep on trucking through it?

bookdwarf (bookdwarf), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

If you are almost done then i would keep going just for completion's sake. I haven't read The Names since the 80's, but I really loved it then. The mood of it especially. That dread and the deadpan dialogue. I think I read it twice. Once for school and once on my own. At some point, I would like to re-read those Delillo books that astounded me back then. I wonder if they would still astound? Especially Americana, Endzone, White Noise, and The Names. And Ratner's Star too. Oh heck, all of his old stuff. If you ever get a chance, read his play The Day Room. Wild and crazy! Yours Truly, A Delillo Fan Who Will Not Go Near Underworld With A Ten Foot Pole.

scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 22 March 2004 16:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Delillo: Modern Classic or Flawed Genius? I've been so initially excited, and then subsequently disappointed, by all of his books, that I haven't read the new one. (I tried with Underworld... and ended up skimming a whole bunch of it). I remember liking most of The Names but, as always, I felt like he just got bored near the end. Maybe he gets sidetracked by the next book while he's suppposed to be finishing the last one? I thought that White Noise, and Great Jones Street, were the two that were closest to being "done." I also saw The Day Room performed, and loved it. I think he's been hugely influential as a stylist, but that deadpan dialogue in Underworld... it was all the same person speaking! Him!

Yours Sadly, A Delillo Fan Who'd Like A Shot At Editing His Next One

donald, Monday, 22 March 2004 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Loved White Noise and Libra so decided to attempt Underworld. I'd be lying if I said it was an engrossing read, but I resisted the urge to put it down or skip chunks of it. When I finished it I put it down with a great sigh of relief. Then I began thinking about it. And thinking and thinkung and thinking. I've since come to the conclusion that it's one of the best books I've ever read and although I'm sure I'd get alot more out of it if I were to read it a second time I have yet to work up the motivation to do so.

Bram, Monday, 22 March 2004 20:20 (twenty-two years ago)

The Names is one of a couple i havent read, Great Jones Street is the other. The only reason i havent read it is cos i have a copy on horrible bleeding type cheap paper that i can hardly see.

jed_ (jed), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 01:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks everyone. I am now about 20 pages to the end and its actually getting more interesting. I will finish it. I really enjoyed White Noise and a friend of mine who loves DeLillo says that The Names is one of his favorites by him. And why do so many people have such strong feelings about Underworld?

bookdwarf (bookdwarf), Tuesday, 23 March 2004 15:33 (twenty-two years ago)

The Sheltering Sky is like a better version of the same book, or the reverse, actually.

linn d., Saturday, 3 April 2004 03:35 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
I liked The Names a lot, I think for the detachment and vague trepidation and dread that it soaked in.

Thinking now, though, I can't remember a thing about the plot itself.

In the current semester break I'd like to plow through Libra or maybe even The Names again. Underworld has to wait for now, but it's on my list. Oh, and I liked Mao II a lot as well.

derrick (derrick), Tuesday, 20 April 2004 07:13 (twenty-one years ago)

The Names is my favorite personal favorite Delillo novel. I read it last year and its one I tend to recommend more than the others. Perhaps Endzone is a better introduction.
The Names seems to balance Delillo's dark and comic side better than most. The observations about language, as a metaphor for the relationship between form and content, have stuck with me. The setting is used very well, and the protagonist's Godardian filmmaker friend has a great extended quote about movies in the 20th century that is classic.
The final passage authored by the aspiring novelist child of the main character may be the best ending to any of Delillo's novels.

theodore fogelsanger, Friday, 23 April 2004 23:16 (twenty-one years ago)

six years pass...

this book kicks ass btw. i kept reading it and being like "this is maybe the best book ever written"

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 01:50 (fifteen years ago)

yeah, i love it and had the same feeling when i finished it. one of my favorite delillos. it reads much slower than the other ones i've read, but in a good way. you really have to take your time with it. also, i love the kid novelist.

Romeo Jones, Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:31 (fifteen years ago)

i read this in like 2000 when i was in college & remember taking it when i went on a l8 spring break 2 new orleans

i legitimately remember zero abt it other than my friend katie making fun of the cover

johnny crunch, Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:43 (fifteen years ago)

i should prob read it again as i love a lot of other delillo

johnny crunch, Saturday, 5 February 2011 02:44 (fifteen years ago)

there's this description of a generic new england small town that is so precise it is amazing.

plax (ico), Saturday, 5 February 2011 09:56 (fifteen years ago)

three months pass...

whoop

collected stories 1979 - 2011; the two recently published were terrific.

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Saturday, 4 June 2011 00:14 (fourteen years ago)

That's excellent.

In other Delillo news, David Cronenberg is filming a version of "Cosmopolis" starring Robert Pattinson:

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/archives/2011/05/26/first_look_at_robert_pattinson_in_david_cronenbergs_cosmopolis/#

I haven't read Cosmopolis. Been kind of leery of it because it got some pretty bad reviews.

Romeo Jones, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 02:14 (fourteen years ago)

bought libra yday. ive only read the names and white noise but the names took me so long to read bc i would obsess over certain passages for days. theres this descrip of some upstate ny smalltown that is so eery or the descriptions of the movie the guy is making or the line about souls being x-rayed in the airport

plax (ico), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:56 (fourteen years ago)

like its ridic showy

plax (ico), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:56 (fourteen years ago)

i wonder if johnny crunch has a copy w the same crappy cover as mine

plax (ico), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:58 (fourteen years ago)

feel like this is a guy i pick up a book easily by that will snap me out of a spell of not reading

plax (ico), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 04:59 (fourteen years ago)

threw my copy of cosmopolis out the window of my senior year calc class in high school

markers, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:03 (fourteen years ago)

i've read libra and falling man and tried to read underworld and will hopefully finish it some day

tried to read cosmopolis too obv

markers, Wednesday, 8 June 2011 05:15 (fourteen years ago)

ive only read the names and white noise but the names took me so long to read bc i would obsess over certain passages for days. theres this descrip of some upstate ny smalltown that is so eery or the descriptions of the movie the guy is making or the line about souls being x-rayed in the airport

ha, i am 'reading' the names, inasmuch as you can be reading something you're not touching & started months ago*, and just crawling through it because it's so dense and it lingers so much that you have to actually take in every graf. so reassuring to know you were going slow, as i'm enjoying it all the same and really am getting close to picking it up again sometime very soon. and there are so many of those super resonant sections, about the time we write off to air travel, and about the quiescence of his post-married life and the disintegration that made it that way.

psyched for the stories anyhow, i loved loved loved midnight in dostoyevsky.

* there's a philip roth quote about how if you read something in more than two weeks you don't really read it, over which i've developed a guilt-complex with slow-reading not-excessively-long books like this

stately, plump bunk moreland (schlump), Wednesday, 8 June 2011 08:45 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

point omega is the only one i like as much as the names so far. i love him on movies.

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:40 (fourteen years ago)

kindof struggling with libra

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:42 (fourteen years ago)

I've probably read a dozen Delillos, and Libra is the only one I quit on (About 2/3s through). I also loved Point Omega and definitely agree with you about his take on movies. Running Dog, Americana, and Underworld also have bits on movies. You might want to check one of those out.

Romeo Jones, Thursday, 21 July 2011 21:57 (fourteen years ago)

what is the struggle?

j., Friday, 22 July 2011 01:55 (fourteen years ago)

Libra is the last novel of his I loved.

The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 22 July 2011 02:02 (fourteen years ago)

i feel like he wants libra to be difficult. like its supposed to be like sifting through files or something. the bits where they talk about constructing motives, shaping a character out of a real life. those are great. the writing is still fantastic but there's so many fucking characters. i'm perservering with it because i hate when books defeat me and i've been rolling over a lot lately. might stick my mother's copy of underworld in my suitcase.

℗⎣▲✘ (ico), Friday, 22 July 2011 08:05 (fourteen years ago)

four weeks pass...

after libra i read falling man and the body artist, i'm reading running dog next.

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 08:14 (fourteen years ago)

Is Falling Man any good?

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 08:15 (fourteen years ago)

i thought it seemed really conventional for maybe the first third of it, almost trite. but then something happens, theres a short chapter called on marienstrasse about the cell hiding out in hamburg, the stuff abt morandi and kierkegaard. i liked it a lot, not as much as the names or point omega (i like him at his most austere) and there are several dozen descriptions in this that just floored me. still the 2 short chapters about the cell, 1st in hamburg then in florida, are prolly the best sections of the whole book and you do sortof wish for something more spec. about ideology, the symbolism of terror. One of the best things is how he will reintroduce parts from earlier in the book again and again (the morandi painting that comes back into conversation with sev. plot points, reappears in relation to different themes, how it works as a piece of art criticism, illuminating different themes or) i mean in the end he's just so ridiculously skillful as a writer that you can just sit back and admire how artfully he stitches everything together, crossreferencing back and forth. but then i'm sortof in the process of becoming a superfan right now.

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 08:32 (fourteen years ago)

Have you read Underworld? There's a Breughel painting in there that does the same trick, which is pretty excellent.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 08:38 (fourteen years ago)

i think i'm sortof working up to underworld

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 09:34 (fourteen years ago)

underworld was stsring at me from a shelf yesterday, i think it is gonna come up soon here too. would like to maybe do another lighter/fun one first though.

sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Saturday, 20 August 2011 10:22 (fourteen years ago)

names = best delillo

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 10:44 (fourteen years ago)

feel bad about sagely agreeing with that while not actually having finished it yet

sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:02 (fourteen years ago)

Also in 1982, DeLillo finally broke his self-imposed ban on media coverage by giving his first major interview to Tom LeClair,[13] who had first tracked DeLillo down for an interview while he was in Greece in 1979 (on that occasion, DeLillo had handed LeClair a business card with his name printed on it and beneath that the message "I don't want to talk about it.")[13]

haha

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:23 (fourteen years ago)

With the publication of his eighth novel White Noise in 1985, DeLillo began a rapid ascendancy to being a noted and respected novelist. White Noise was arguably a major breakthrough both commercially and artistically for DeLillo, earning him a National Book Award[2] and a place among the academic canon of contemporary postmodern novelists. DeLillo remained as detached as ever from his growing reputation: when called upon to give an acceptance speech for the Award, he simply said, "I'm sorry I couldn't be here tonight, but I thank you all for coming," and then sat down.[1][14]

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:24 (fourteen years ago)

Libra became an international bestseller,[2] earned DeLillo another nomination for the National Book Award, and won the Irish Times Aer Lingus International Fiction Prize the following year. The novel also elicited fierce critical division, with some critics praising DeLillo's take on the Kennedy assassination while others decried it. George Will, in a Washington Post article,[15] declared the book to be an affront to America and "an act of literary vandalism and bad citizenship."[15]

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:25 (fourteen years ago)

does george will really want to set a precedent for making literary vandalism an indictable offence, though

sweatpants life trajectory (schlump), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:26 (fourteen years ago)

I wish i hadn't read the names so soon, it was the second one i read after white noise. I don't get why white noise is regarded as one of his best. I mean its good but its really gimmicky compared to everything else iv read by him.

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:35 (fourteen years ago)

there's a short story he wrote about a series of gerhard richter paintings, which is exactly perfect. all his books should have gerhard richter paintings for illustrations.

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:36 (fourteen years ago)

white noise gets so much love because its fits perfectly in any post modern fiction syllabus

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:39 (fourteen years ago)

It's also the one that took off, no? I've liked all the other stuff better I think, though White Noise does have a nice dry humour to it.

Ismael Klata, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:42 (fourteen years ago)

i love white noise but its not quality as his best

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:44 (fourteen years ago)

the characters are more cartoonish than usual (though i think maybe this is something that is true of his early work maybe?) and too much of it feels jokey in a surface way, the lecture on hitler is a really great set piece but it doesn't have any of the eery resonance that i like most abt this guy.

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:46 (fourteen years ago)

anyway i'm waiting for running dog to arrive, i ordered it at the same time as the body artist so it should come hopefully monday.

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:47 (fourteen years ago)

the names, mao 2, underworld and great jones st are best imho

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:48 (fourteen years ago)

and maybe libra iirc idk its been a while for any of these tbqh

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:49 (fourteen years ago)

have not read: falling man, point omega

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:49 (fourteen years ago)

mao ii is the one i want to read after running dog

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:49 (fourteen years ago)

point omega i seriously recommend

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 11:50 (fourteen years ago)

cool ill check it out, i opened falling man, and clearly lol not sure what i was expecting, and read abt the thumping bodies and was just like 'no thx'

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:16 (fourteen years ago)

couldnt really get into great jones st iirc

just sayin, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:16 (fourteen years ago)

ive read it like three times, could totally understand why one might find it lesser or pointless, but to me its hilarious and awesome

ice cr?m, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:18 (fourteen years ago)

i havent read any delillo for a long time, this thread is inspiring me tho

just sayin, Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:20 (fourteen years ago)

i have to stop myself getting into conversations about him. i want to quote him from memory all the time.

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:45 (fourteen years ago)

its p tiresome prolly

plax (ico), Saturday, 20 August 2011 12:45 (fourteen years ago)

think white noise was the one that took off because its pretty much the only novel he's written about a suburban family and the traditional novel about a suburban family subjects -- college professor, raising children, marriage trauma and reconciliation, specter of death, critique of life as it is lived today in these united states "for most people" -- i.e. the kind of shit that's catnip to awards-givers and literary-naturalism-lovers.

libra and running dog are my faves, but then delillo is my fave living writer, so it's hard to choose. i don't think he's been working at near his peak capacity since underworld, but the only novel i've outright disliked has been players, which seems like a trial run for running dog, the names, and all the "men in small rooms making terrorist plots" ones he's written since.

king of torts (strongo hulkington's ghost dad), Sunday, 21 August 2011 04:17 (fourteen years ago)

i actually dread the first few pages of reading a book by him, worrying that its gonna disappoint me. like he's on such a roll for me and i'm rooting for him.

plax (ico), Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:50 (fourteen years ago)

btw anyone considering reading falling man should read this, its an article he wrote for the new yorker after 9/11 and quite a few descriptions make it into the book (in one or two cases in a importantly different context)

http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2001/dec/22/fiction.dondelillo

plax (ico), Sunday, 21 August 2011 10:54 (fourteen years ago)

one month passes...

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31w-PbtitiL._SL500_AA300_.jpg

those new covers bug me. i am psyched to pick this up & hope i can get a different edition.

mr. vertical (schlump), Wednesday, 28 September 2011 12:44 (fourteen years ago)

he's in conversation w/ bret easton ellis in this months believer fwiw

just sayin, Wednesday, 28 September 2011 13:03 (fourteen years ago)

has anybody read his story videotape.

plax (ico), Monday, 10 October 2011 23:54 (fourteen years ago)

he's in conversation w/ bret easton ellis in this months believer fwiw

oh dear.

thomp, Tuesday, 11 October 2011 10:35 (fourteen years ago)

three years pass...

ooo

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/alex-ross-perry-to-write-and-direct-adaptation-of-don-delillos-the-names-20150407

tender is the late-night daypart (schlump), Sunday, 31 May 2015 23:51 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

of course the child author is perceptive and eloquent. corny as f

massaman gai, Thursday, 9 July 2015 16:31 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

however - breezed through "ratner's star" on holiday which was FUN.

massaman gai, Saturday, 5 September 2015 11:44 (ten years ago)


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