Etymythologies

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As suggested by Gregory Henry on another thread. This is where you can share, make up, and ask questions about, odd etymologies.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 08:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I will start.

I found this site: http://www.etymonline.com/ the other day when I was searching for the roots of the word 'flabbergast'. I didn't get very far (origins unknown), but the site more than makes up for it. You should send the man responsible apes, ivory and peacocks. He even begins with a very apt Borges quote:

"It is often forgotten that (dictionaries) are artificial epositories, put together well after the languages they define. The roots of language are irrational and of a magical nature."
-Jorge Luis Borges, Prologue to "El otro, el mismo."

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 08:08 (twenty-one years ago)

"epositories"? Repositories. I have sacked my typist.

Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 08:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I didn't realise Momus was " a humorously disagreeable person, from Gk. Momos, god of ridicule (Gk. momos); also used in Eng. as personification of fault-finding and captious criticism."! That's tremendous, I'd totally missed it.

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Wednesday, 5 May 2004 10:52 (twenty-one years ago)

(Gregory, on a totally tangential tip, Lucian's dialogues in which Momos takes on all of Olympos, describing to the pantheon their ridiculousness, are priceless.)

otto, Wednesday, 5 May 2004 15:35 (twenty-one years ago)

two weeks pass...
I just found out that no-one knows where "she" comes from! People reckon it's scandinavian, but can't actually prove it. That is so gnarly.

Gregory Henry (Gregory Henry), Thursday, 20 May 2004 19:18 (twenty-one years ago)

she - probably evolved from O.E. seo, sio (acc. sie), fem. of demonstrative pronoun se "the." The O.E. word for "she" was heo, hio, however by 13c. the pronunciation of this had converged by phonetic evolution with he "he," so the fem. demonstrative pronoun was probably used it its place (cf. similar development in Du. zij, Ger. sie, Gk. he, etc.). The original h- survives in her. A relic of the O.E. pronoun is in Manchester-area dial. oo "she." She-devil "difficult woman" first recorded 1840.

Michael White (Hereward), Thursday, 20 May 2004 21:54 (twenty-one years ago)


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