rare books c/d?

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I'm reading 'A pound of paper' by John Baxter at the minute, about collecting books, and it reminded me that we had a copy of Ulysses in the archive, which had been confiscated from the post. I checked it out and was a bit gobsmacked to see that it's a first edition, 1 of 1000 printed, and a comparable one is on the market for $75000.....

In my google path I also saw that one university had 20 copies of this one edition in their special collection, and it set me thinking about the whole rare book collection topic. Not necessarily private collections, after all people can spend their money how they like, but what about institutions that are publically funded? Is it right that they should spend thousands of pounds on books that are available in less rare editions, but with the same text in them? And what of multiple copies? How can institutions justify keeping multiple editions of the same book, when there are probably other departments crying out for funding?

Do you love books all the more because the edition you have is old and/or rare? Or is it nothing to do with the books at all, and all to do with the collectors' gene?

Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 13:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Did they buy them when they were new (and thus reasonably priced)?

Casuistry (Chris P), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I have no idea, I doubt that they've purchased them recently, they may even have had them donated. It's a moral quaqmire, esp. if someone's donated them, but when push comes to shove, do they really need 20 copies? From an archive perspective, most of archival material is unique anyway, but we keep copies of reports, publications etc. however we only keep 1 copy, maybe with a spare for exhibition purposes, but we definitely wouldn't keep 20. I find it hard to comprehend why this wouldn't be the case with rare books too.

Vicky (Vicky), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Off the top of my head, I can think of a few reasons why I would want multiple copies of a rare edition book if I had a university library:

1) I might need to give a present to someone who gave the university a million dollars. Like Michael Flateley or someone. He collects rare books and might be a kind of a donatin' guy.

2) I might want to loan one or more copy out for an exhibition at another university or at a museum. Then I would still have copies back at the ranch in case anyone wanted them, and my institution's name would be out there as a respected book collector.

3) Insurance against something happening to one of the other copies. If you're going to let anyone near them at all, it's impossible to be sure that they won't get damaged eventually.

The National Library of Ireland has bought pricey (by my standards) books from me in the past, but usually single copies of things, and they always have a good reason for them. The particular translation, or alterations in the text from one edition to the next.

It comes down to a books-as-mere-binding-for-their-contents and books-as-objects argument again. Are they collecting the books because of what's in them, or specifically for their collectable value? After all, universities are in quite a good position to collect rare books. They've got reasonably secure and paper-friendly storage capabilities and can afford to hang on to the books as they increase in value, something it's difficult for private collectors to do.

accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 14:50 (twenty-one years ago)

My boss is a rare book dealer in her spare time. I have always found the idea of rare books (and records) kind of underwhelming. To me they ARE just binding for the contents. I can understand people who collect certain editions or whatever because of how they LOOK, maybe, but am troubled by something accruing financial value just because only 3 of them exist in that form or whatever. But then I'm not good with objects, generally.

Archel (Archel), Tuesday, 14 September 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
ts: rare bks vs rare comics vs rare records etc etc.

Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 21 October 2004 12:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I am holdin on to a first of edition of 'London Fields' with a little free sample chapter thingy from WHSmith's. I got this because at the time I thought it would one day be valuable, but I think I'm going to be disappointed. Give it another fifty years or so...

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 22 October 2004 08:42 (twenty-one years ago)

I used to have a *second* edition of 'In The Cage' by Henry James. I don't know what happened to it. If I still have it, I will keep it for my niece, when she's old enough. Which suggests it is something about the transmission of things, both material and otherwise, through the ages, rather than monetary value. Although I suppose I could charge her for it.

PJ Miller (PJ Miller), Friday, 22 October 2004 09:31 (twenty-one years ago)

I have a lovely Christina Rossetti booklet of Goblin Market. Victorian. It is stained and tatty but beautiful too. Found it in West End Books in West Hampstead. Tucked away at the back of a shelf.

I also have a beautiful travel guide to Cerne Abbas in Dorset. 1930's. Giant. Big penis. Nice book.

MikeyG (MikeyG), Friday, 22 October 2004 10:31 (twenty-one years ago)


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