The Time Traveller's Wife (SPOILERS)

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I bought this with my B&N gift card because it was highly recommended here. I really, really like this book. I still need to figure some stuff out. (I'm not quite finished - Henry just died).
I loved the first part, and then found myself getting annoyed at Clare's entries. And then getting annoyed at myself for not understanding her dilemmas.
Anyway, it is a wonderful read, and the concept is so amazing that you can't help turning the page.
My beloved, who loves Doctor Who, was intrigued by the title. When I explained the concept of the book , he got disgusted (jokingly) and said "Everyone knows you can't be in time with yourself!" I guess you need an antique British phone box to really time travel?
It's a good book, one that I will pass along to a friend who is pregnant, as that part became such a central theme.
I just wanted you all to know that I dutifully follow up on suggestions.

aimurchie, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 04:11 (twenty years ago)

hey but this is a spoiler, I've ordered the book from Amazon 2 days ago because it was reccomended here, and now I open this thread and on the second line of your entry I find out that some Henry has died. I't's unfair, you should have warned me!
;)

misshajim (strand), Wednesday, 2 February 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

Oops! i am so,so sorry. I thought I was the only one on this thread who hadn't read it. Sincerest apologies!
(Can't wait to read your review of it!)

aimurchie, Wednesday, 2 February 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

I recently read this book too and loved it. Maybe I could help you by giving my interpretations of Clare's dilemmas, but I'm not sure what you are confused about. Could you clarify? Is the jumping around in time confusing you?

Audrey Smith, Wednesday, 9 February 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

The book has arrived, I haven't started it yet, but i'll be soon joining in, wait for me!

misshajim (strand), Thursday, 10 February 2005 09:23 (twenty years ago)

I have finally read it and loved it very much. I think it is one of those few novel you can call romance and not feel embarrassed. I mean, it is about love in the same way love is treated in For Whom the Bell Tolls and in a way also in War and Peace. Lifelike and deep.
Two things more to say: the first is that all the time I read it I felt I was in London. In the sense that the novel seemed to be very much located in space to me. But the place wasn’t that. Weird.
Second, it felt so easy. Like one day I wake up and write this letter to a friend about last week events. In a time where writing seems to be something you have to show your reader how complex, and difficult, and brainy it is, it was soothing to read something that I’m sure took a lot of fatigue to write, but still felt easy, notwithstanding the factual diegetic complexity (I’m sure Genette would get crazy reading it ;)
And one last thing, it didn’t matter I knew Henry would die. Maybe the very first pages it did, because I was waiting for it at the beginning. But then it lost all importance. Whereas I liked Clare’s entries. Particularly about the pregnancy. Considering I had Sara a few months ago, it really felt close.
It is the best novel I read that was recommended here.
Now, what’s next? I got this Byatt The Virgin in the Garden and am bored already by its academicity…please come forward with suggestions ;)

misshajim (strand), Monday, 14 February 2005 09:14 (twenty years ago)

"The Last Reports From Little No Horse" (Louise Erdrich) is really good. if you're a fan you will like it. if you are not familiar with her work, well, you will love everything about it and her. She really manages to bring the idea of motherhood to places that we have never imagined. The thought that parenting happens in extreme circumstances, through personal struggles and despite circumstances, is a very powerful theme.
It's a powerful and amazing book, and I can't say anything else because..

aimurchie, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:23 (twenty years ago)

This is really for Audrey Smith.
I would LOVE for someone to explain why i am having a problem with Clare.

aimurchie, Wednesday, 16 February 2005 07:42 (twenty years ago)

Maybe your problem was the same as mine, which is that I couldn't stand all the cultural signifiers which they kept dropping. Knowing about Bartok really isn't very impressive.

But I liked it on the whole.

Sam (chirombo), Wednesday, 16 February 2005 12:35 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...

Just finished reading this and would love to hear others' opinions. I did really enjoy reading it, I found it a real page-turner and in most ways, very well-written - poetic without being flowery. The first half/third (about up until where they got married, i.e. mostly Henry visiting Clare before they met and the start of their relationship 'proper') in particular I found exciting and set up high expectations for the rest of the book. In comparison the second half was lacking. This actually was quite effective - mirroring the 'additions' of Henry in the first half of Clare's life with her missing him increasingly in the second as he disappears off to visit her when younger.
I liked the science-fiction esque side of it although had I not been 'warned' this was effectively a love story (I usually love sciencey-based stuff more than relationship stuff per se) I would have been extremely frustrated. The doctor who is studying his genetic condition is brought into the story almost half-heartedly and you never learn anything about Henry's condition, other than it being hereditary and uncontrollable, leaving it as just some magical mystical freak of nature. Names of chemicals are thrown in but this seems almost smug without any reference to what they actually mean. I know this wouldn't really add to the story but even some attempt to address this would have been interesting. Likewise the main paradox of whether people can change the future that Henry's seen - I was naturally curious and willing Henry/Clare to test what would happen if they tried to change the future, but each copped out of doing so. The author does (half) address the existence of this paradox with the dating of Clare's picture and keeps a consistent line throughout. However this is 'inevitably' the only way it could have been written to make any sense so I'll let her off.

The lack of reference to any kind of real world outside of Henry&Clare-dom becomes more conspicuous throughout (also, in the first half there's more real world stuff as Clare describes her teenage parties etc). Winning the lottery? That seems to just happen, and then they can conveniently afford what they like. Absolutely no mention of how winning the lottery may affect you in other ways (media coverage? Using the money for a greater good?) No police interest in Henry? No-one else caring that he just disappears in front of their eyes? Nothing about the effects of the doctor publishing his experiments which would surely be life-changing for all concerned and the world in general?

I did have a problem with a lot of the characters and the way they were developed or otherwise. (Did anyone else picture Clare as Clare from "Six Feet Under"?) There were some fairly lazy caricatures - mainly Clare's family's staff and Henry's landlady Kimy. We know almost nothing about Clare's brother and sister despite Henry acknowledging at the start that she seems to have a lot of affection for her sister. Gomez is set up to be a promisingly mysterious character, almost dark or sinister, not showing his true self. I was disappointed that his dark secret was that he was in love with Clare, and that's it. (Oh and he didn't care that he'd cheated on Charisse). This dark side just seemed to fizzle out - having kids, living with his love for Clare and presumably managing this well enough not to bother anyone except for Charisse asking Henry about it. I guess this just feels odd because in many other novels a dark unknown character would usually DO something at the end, whereas what actually happens with Gomez is probably more realistic.

I was slightly bewildered by the increasingly heavy hipster references throughout - where they eat (Thai food or whatever was hip and bohemian then), the bloody poetry throughout, just the whole feel that their lives became more and more characterised by this hipster stuff. Not sure what to make of it other than it certainly made Clare and Henry a lot less likable and human. The poetry stuff seemed pseduo-highbrow - just dropping in references without them having any meaning other than being just references. Alba's 'views' on that artist at the end are a perfect example - she just seemed keen to show off what she knew to her teacher rather than it affecting anything else she talked about or it having any meaning other than 'look how clever I am, and if you don't get it you are missing out on the meaning'. The fact that Henry is so proud of this in Alba above everything else seems rather distasteful - he can only truly love his child if she's a precocious art-lover. Even Henry being a punk-loving librarian just seemed to be there to tick 'cool' boxes (I do know several such people, and they are generally considered to be uber cool - liking punk = rock n roll, librarian = intellectual and sensitive).

The biggest downfall, to me, in a book solely about C&H's relationship was that it failed to examine the main driving force behind their relationship - cause & effect. There's no attempt to disentangle the core of their love which is basically 'they love each other because they know they love each other in the future'. Other than a couple of throwaway lines saying 'cause & effect are complicated' this is ignored in the context of their relationship (examined in marginally more detail in the story about Clare's picture). They just get together and are then consistently in love. No 'what-ifs' - we all want to know whether they would be so much in love without this bond (for Clare, a mysterious man from her childhood becomes real; for him, she already knows about his traveling and is sure she loves him). The actual point of them falling in love is absent.

Finally, I have trouble believing that Henry would be so mean as to keep Clare waiting into her 80s for her next glimpse of him. Having been so successfully careful throughout with what he doesn't tell her and mainly being wise as to what is 'for her own good' - if he really wanted her to be free he wouldn't have told her this? Or, does this reveal him to be, underneath, *that* possessive and selfish? I don't find that too inconsistent with his character. Another interpretation might be that as there are many coats in the house when he visits her in her 80s, that she has loved again and raised a family?

Not the real Village People, Sunday, 14 October 2007 22:20 (seventeen years ago)


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