while youre at it, you can throw me some recommendations of poets. right now i have some feeling for hart crane, yeats, and blake.
― tom cleveland (tom cleveland), Friday, 4 February 2005 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)
For Stevens, the world we invent in our heads, or in an artwork, has as much reality as the physical world if not more. In "Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird," it's like he's doing a Cubist portrait. He likes to pile up a variety of perspectives, the sum of which gets us closer to the truth than one fixed objective reality can.
The best Stevens poem by far is The Idea of Order at Key West. All the big Stevensian ideas are there. In it, art is about creating another reality. The actual world is almost reduced to fodder for the making of art:
"She was the maker of the song she sang The ever-hooded, tragic-gestured sea Was merely a place by which she walked to sing....
And when she sang, the sea,Whatever self it had, became the selfThat was her song, for she was the maker. Then we,As we beheld her striding there alone,Knew that there never was a world for herExcept the one she sang and, singing, made...."
Also, humans are always trying to make order out of randomness, and this is an act of creation:
"Why, when the singing ended and we turnedToward the town, tell why the glassy lights,The lights in the fishing boats at anchor there,As the night descended, tilting in the air,Mastered the night and portioned out the sea...Arranging, deepening, enchanting night...."
That's the "blessed rage for order": when we look at a collection of lights and impose imagined patterns and designs on them, we're creators. "Anecdote of the Jar" has a similar subject: the poet's attention being centered on something makes the world centered on that thing, even if it's only temporarily and even if it's only so from his perspecting.
The temporary and the local and the trivial are constantly being exalted in Stevens's worldview; indeed some things are treasured precisely because they're temporary. That's what he means when he says "the only emperor is the emperor of ice cream."
I think.
― The Mad Puffin, Friday, 4 February 2005 16:01 (twenty-one years ago)
He's often described as a poet of the imagination, and much of his poetry explores the relationship between the imagination and reality. He famously composed his poems on his way to and from work in the insurance industry. His poetry was a side job, an escape from his work (but a grounded escape--philosophical but not fantastic), a search for good things in the world and in life (usually the tempory, the local, and the trivial as the Mad Puffin mentioned) through the work of the mind.
"The Snow Man" is commonly anthologized and a fairly accessible place to start. By all means read "The Idea of Order at Key West" and "Thirteen Ways of Looking at a Blackbird." "The House was Quiet and the World was Calm" is another one of my favorites and might ease you into his mindset.
Here's a link to Ronald Sukenick's Guide to the Collected Poetry, which is available in PDFs on the site. It includes explications of a number of Stevens's major poems.
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― youn, Sunday, 6 February 2005 09:33 (twenty-one years ago)
(U+K line from "The Snow Man" - "nothing that is not there and the nothing that is")
― etc, Sunday, 6 February 2005 11:06 (twenty-one years ago)
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― Casuistry (Chris P), Monday, 7 February 2005 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)
This is nicely put. The effect of the blurriness as you reconsider with each section morphing into very sharp relief. One of my favorite poems.
The river is moving.The blackbird must be flying.
― mcd (mcd), Wednesday, 9 February 2005 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)
Thirteen Ways of Looking at a BlackbirdWallace Stevens
IAmong twenty snowy mountains,The only moving thingWas the eye of the blackbird.
III was of three minds,Like a treeIn which there are three blackbirds.
IIIThe blackbird whirled in the autumn winds.It was a small part of the pantomime.
IVA man and a womanAre one.A man and a woman and a blackbirdAre one.
VI do not know which to prefer,The beauty of inflectionsOr the beauty of innuendoes,The blackbird whistlingOr just after.
VIIcicles filled the long windowWith barbaric glass.The shadow of the blackbirdCrossed it, to and fro.The moodTraced in the shadowAn indecipherable cause.
VIIO thin men of Haddam,Why do you imagine golden birds?Do you not see how the blackbirdWalks around the feetOf the women about you?
VIIII know noble accentsAnd lucid, inescapable rhythms;But I know, too,That the blackbird is involvedIn what I know.
IXWhen the blackbird flew out of sight,It marked the edgeOf one of many circles.
XAt the sight of blackbirdsFlying in a green light,Even the bawds of euphonyWould cry out sharply.
XIHe rode over ConnecticutIn a glass coach.Once, a fear pierced him,In that he mistookThe shadow of his equipageFor blackbirds.
XIIThe river is moving.The blackbird must be flying.
XIIIIt was evening all afternoon.It was snowingAnd it was going to snow.The blackbird satIn the cedar-limbs.
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― painted banquet, Saturday, 27 August 2005 17:07 (twenty years ago)
i was forced to find meanings for it in a theory course once.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QinUdniUXIk
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 15 June 2013 16:09 (twelve years ago)
At the moment my favourite poem by WS is 'Domination in Black' - about the hemlocks, and the cry of the peacocks.
― cardamon, Thursday, 20 June 2013 01:52 (twelve years ago)
My favorite poet. He keeps me alive.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 June 2013 01:55 (twelve years ago)
The Dove in Spring
Brooder, brooder, deep beneath its walls–A small howling of the doveMakes something of the little there,
The little and the dark, and thatIn which it is and that in whichIt is established. There the dove
Makes this small howling, like a thoughtThat howls in the mind or like a manWho keeps seeking out his identity
In that which is and is established…It howlsOf the great sizes of an outer bushAnd the great misery of the doubt of it,
Of stripes of silver that are stripsLike slits across a space, a placeAnd state of being large and light.
There is this bubbling before the sun,This howling at one’s ear, too farFor daylight and too near for sleep.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 20 June 2013 01:56 (twelve years ago)
it's only in the past year that I've begun to explore beyond the anthology pieces ("Blackbird", "Anecdote of the Jar", "Key West") & I would hardly call myself knowledgeable, but "Esthetique du Mal" was a sort of wallace stevens rosetta stone (skeleton key??) for me—even if you don't care for long poems, it's not as linear or as narrative as some of his others ("Comedian as the Letter C" comes to mind), just a loosely-connected suite of 15 poems on the subject of pain, but it gives one some idea of 'the total Stevens'
― Excelsior twilight. Harpsichord wind through the trees. (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 10:43 (twelve years ago)
('total Stevens' meaning the scope of his concern, his many voices, his view of the human condition and of the place of his art therein)
*for a shorter version of the same poem, see "A Postcard From the Volcano"
― Excelsior twilight. Harpsichord wind through the trees. (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 10:45 (twelve years ago)
ah what the heck
A Postcard From The VolcanoChildren picking up our bonesWill never know that these were onceAs quick as foxes on the hill;And that in autumn, when the grapesMade sharp air sharper by their smellThese had a being, breathing frost;And least will guess that with our bonesWe left much more, left what still isThe look of things, left what we feltAt what we saw. The spring clouds blowAbove the shuttered mansion house,Beyond our gate and the windy skyCries out a literate despair.We knew for long the mansion's lookAnd what we said of it becameA part of what it is ... Children,Still weaving budded aureoles,Will speak our speech and never know,Will say of the mansion that it seemsAs if he that lived there left behindA spirit storming in blank walls,A dirty house in a gutted world,A tatter of shadows peaked to white,Smeared with the gold of the opulent sun.
Children picking up our bonesWill never know that these were onceAs quick as foxes on the hill;
And that in autumn, when the grapesMade sharp air sharper by their smellThese had a being, breathing frost;
And least will guess that with our bonesWe left much more, left what still isThe look of things, left what we felt
At what we saw. The spring clouds blowAbove the shuttered mansion house,Beyond our gate and the windy sky
Cries out a literate despair.We knew for long the mansion's lookAnd what we said of it became
A part of what it is ... Children,Still weaving budded aureoles,Will speak our speech and never know,
Will say of the mansion that it seemsAs if he that lived there left behindA spirit storming in blank walls,
A dirty house in a gutted world,A tatter of shadows peaked to white,Smeared with the gold of the opulent sun.
I don't think I'm wrong to be reminded of Valery's "Le cimetiere marin" by final lines, tho I may be wrong to see a pun in stanza 2
― Excelsior twilight. Harpsichord wind through the trees. (bernard snowy), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 10:49 (twelve years ago)
"Esthetique du Mal" is a bit of a mess -- it doesn't cohere unless you've read enough Stevens to get what he's aiming for -- it's a good start.
― A deeper shade of lol (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 July 2013 11:04 (twelve years ago)
can't believe I've been reading him for 2 years and I *just* realized what's going on in (the beginning stanzas of) 'Sunday Morning'
― bernard snowy, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 03:39 (ten years ago)
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― ♛ LIL UNIT ♛ (thomp), Tuesday, 14 April 2015 14:51 (ten years ago)
craziness:
http://wkarrer.webs.com/wallacestevens.htm
― scott seward, Tuesday, 14 April 2015 15:37 (ten years ago)
https://goo.gl/photos/MJN5jWbatR6cPS5u5
I found this at the kinda rundown place I'm staying at, and despite feeling like I'm prob missing a lot (he seems v opaque a lot of the time, not that that's bad) I'm most of the way through Harmonium and enjoying it a lot. Mad Puffin's post kinda jibes w what I'm picking up so far
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 27 July 2015 02:58 (ten years ago)
Photo's being weird, trying again: https://goo.gl/photos/kYQkSKb2VTTqq8Yc8
― sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Monday, 27 July 2015 03:14 (ten years ago)
Much of Harmonium approximates music -- rhyme and image for its own sake.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 27 July 2015 11:11 (ten years ago)
I'm definitely getting that, it's often gorgeous on that level. Kinda addictive, actually.
― Classic Man (albvivertine), Monday, 27 July 2015 13:50 (ten years ago)
Harmonium is one of those books I appreciated mostly on the level of sound for the first couple of years I read it, starting in high school. Kenner's phrase for Stevens's poetry, "an Edward Lear poetic pushed to all limits," seems pretty accurate if you don't accept its pejorative undertones.
― one way street, Monday, 27 July 2015 21:24 (ten years ago)
I love the clutch of sonorous, slightly melancholy Stevens recordings at PennSound: http://writing.upenn.edu/pennsound/x/Stevens-Wallace.html
― one way street, Monday, 27 July 2015 21:29 (ten years ago)
The Poems of Our Climate
IClear water in a brilliant bowl,Pink and white carnations. The lightIn the room more like a snowy air,Reflecting snow. A newly-fallen snowAt the end of winter when afternoons return.Pink and white carnations - one desiresSo much more than that. The day itselfIs simplified: a bowl of white,Cold, a cold porcelain, low and round,With nothing more than the carnations there.
IISay even that this complete simplicityStripped one of all one's torments, concealedThe evilly compounded, vital IAnd made it fresh in a world of white,A world of clear water, brilliant-edged,Still one would want more, one would need more,More than a world of white and snowy scents.
IIIThere would still remain the never-resting mind,So that one would want to escape, come backTo what had been so long composed.The imperfect is our paradise.Note that, in this bitterness, delight,Since the imperfect is so hot in us,Lies in flawed words and stubborn sounds.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 30 July 2015 21:18 (ten years ago)
<3maybe my favorite poet
― drash, Thursday, 30 July 2015 21:36 (ten years ago)
I'm reading Paul Mariani's new bio.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:33 (nine years ago)
An excuse to share one of my favorites:
IGo on, high ship, since now, upon the shore,The snake has left its skin upon the floor.Key West sank downward under massive cloudsAnd silvers and greens spread over the sea. The moonIs at the mast-head and the past is dead.Her mind will never speak to me again.I am free. High above the mast the moonRides clear of her mind and the waves make a refrainOf this: that the snake has shed its skin uponThe floor. Go on through the darkness. The waves fly back
IIHer mind had bound me round. The palms were hotAs if I lived in ashen ground, as ifThe leaves in which the wind kept up its soundFrom my North of cold whistled in a sepulchral South,Her South of pine and coral and coraline sea,Her home, not mine, in the ever-freshened Keys,Her days, her oceanic nights, callingFor music, for whisperings from the reefs.How content I shall be in the North to which I sailAnd to feel sure and to forget the bleaching sand ...
IIII hated the weathery yawl from which the poolsDisclosed the sea floor and the wildernessOf waving weeds. I hated the vivid bloomsCurled over the shadowless hut, the rust and bones,The trees likes bones and the leaves half sand, half sun.To stand here on the deck in the dark and sayFarewell and to know that that land is forever goneAnd that she will not follow in any wordOr look, nor ever again in thought, exceptThat I loved her once ... Farewell. Go on, high ship.
IVMy North is leafless and lies in a wintry slimeBoth of men and clouds, a slime of men in crowds.The men are moving as the water moves,This darkened water cloven by sullen swellsAgainst your sides, then shoving and slithering,The darkness shattered, turbulent with foam.To be free again, to return to the violent mindThat is their mind, these men, and that will bindMe round, carry me, misty deck, carry meTo the cold, go on, high ship, go on, plunge on.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 14 May 2016 17:35 (nine years ago)
was 2nd hand bookshopping in Rome the other day. Found a rather scuffed and dog-eared copy of facing page Italian/English Wallace Stevens poems. At the very least it was a tremendous store of Italian vocabulary (especially after the spartan vocab of the Montale I'd been reading) and the translations also gave a great feeling of zip and invention.
But it was €50. I asked the store owner whether that could be right, and she said sadly yes, it was an excellent and very hard to find translation :(
― Fizzles, Monday, 16 May 2016 16:00 (nine years ago)
Nice documentary (with Merrill) here
― alimosina, Monday, 16 May 2016 19:02 (nine years ago)
Last evening the moon rose above this rockImpure upon a world unpurged.The man and his companion stoppedTo rest before the heroic height.
Coldly the wind fell upon themIn many majesties of sound:They that had left the flame-freaked sunTo seek a sun of fuller fire.
Instead there was this tufted rockMassively rising high and bareBeyond all trees, the ridges thrownLike giant arms among the clouds.
There was neither voice nor crested image,No chorister, nor priest. There wasOnly the great height of the rockAnd the two of them standing still to rest.
There was the cold wind and the soundIt made, away from the muck of the landThat they had left, heroic soundJoyous and jubilant and sure.
― The Luda of Suburbia (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 14:20 (one month ago)
"If only the boys in the office could see me now!"
― Eric Blore Is President (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 14 January 2026 15:01 (one month ago)