I also want something that is definitely historically accurate, and really gives a sense of how the world was back then. Also probably something at least vaguely "literary"; no fluff, please.
― stewart downes (sdownes), Thursday, 18 August 2005 18:18 (twenty years ago)
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― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 19 August 2005 05:27 (twenty years ago)
You might also try Beryl Bainbridge's According to Queenie for info on Samuel Johnson and his ilk, or Master Georgie if you fancy the Crimean War.
I will also chuck in my usual recommendation for Patrick O'Brian. You can't get better research than his, and if you like a few sea battles, he's your only man.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Friday, 19 August 2005 05:58 (twenty years ago)
I'll check out that carey book too, he seems critically acclaimed and whatnot.
Anybody read "Haussmann, or the Distinction" by paul lafarge?
― stewart downes (sdownes), Friday, 19 August 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)
My Penguin paperback of A Place Of Greater Safety is almost 900 pages long, including the 8-page dramatis personae at the start.
― Forest Pines (ForestPines), Friday, 19 August 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)
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― SJ Lefty, Friday, 19 August 2005 23:24 (twenty years ago)
19th Century - Try the Flashman series. Great fun with some serious historical research. As a note of warning, to enjoy this series you must enjoy anti-heroes and must be willing to deal with political incorrectness.
17th-18th Century - Neal Stephenson's Baroque Cycle (Quicksilver, Confusion and the System of the World)- 2500 pages+ of brilliance with a cast of characters including Isacc Newtown, Robert Boyle and Christopher Wren.
17th Century - Iain Pears Instance of the Fingerpost, Rashomon style murder mystery set in Restoration England with a very good twist in the tale.
― oblomov, Saturday, 20 August 2005 02:50 (twenty years ago)
Seconding the Mary Renault, over here.
― accentmonkey (accentmonkey), Saturday, 20 August 2005 17:26 (twenty years ago)
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― Aimless (Aimless), Wednesday, 31 August 2005 16:40 (twenty years ago)
Rose Macaulay's 'They Were Defeated' - set a few years before the English Civil War with plenty of interesting characters popping up - John Milton, Henry More, John Cleveland, Andrew Marvell, Robert Herrick. Lots of 17th Century poetry in it, but still hugely readable.
― stroker ace, Monday, 18 August 2008 09:56 (seventeen years ago)
Some Canadian historical fiction I've enjoyed recently: Icefields by Thomas Wharton and The Outlander by Gil Adamson.
― franny glass, Monday, 18 August 2008 15:09 (seventeen years ago)
been on a kick lately: just finished nicola griffith's "hild" which i really loved.
also did luther blissett's Q (mostly very good) and its sequal "altai" (less good)
what should i do next, the dunnett series?
― max, Sunday, 23 November 2014 23:31 (ten years ago)
Kristin Lavransdatter by Sigrid Undset, the entire life of a 14th century Norwegian woman. Absolutely transports you to a time and place. The following pull quote is absolutely true but makes it sounds like a ripping bonkbuster, really it's much more serious and considered - This trilogy includes illicit sex, affairs, a church fire, an attempted rape, ocean voyages, rebellious virgins cooped up in a convent, predatory priests, an attempted human sacrifice, floods, fights, murders, violent suicide, a gay king, drunken revelry, the Bubonic Plague, deathbed confessions, and sex that makes its heroine ache 'with astonishment'
You Dreamed of Empires by Alvaro Enrigue - Cortes and Moctezuma and the end of the Aztec Empire in a sardonic and mildly postmodern style.
Tyll by Daniel Kehlmann - The Thirty Years War, how it sucked to be a peasant. Cynical, political, philosophical.
The Books of Jacob by Olga Tokarczuk - religious cultism in 18th century poland.
― birming man (ledge), Thursday, 20 February 2025 14:42 (six months ago)
those all sound great, thanks!
― na (NA), Thursday, 20 February 2025 14:53 (six months ago)
I think this has quietly crept up on me to become my favourite genre. A couple more, not at all obscure:
Memoirs of Hadrian by Marguerite Yourcenar - could do with rereading this, offers a very thoughtful personal perspective.
The Blue Flower by Penelope Fitzgerald - concentrates more on character than historical events, slyly and gently amusing, more than you'd expect and more than the main character would appreciate!
― birming man (ledge), Thursday, 20 February 2025 15:06 (six months ago)
i read tyll and you dreamed of empires, as well as the first book of kristin lavransdattar (had to return to the library before i could get to the rest). i enjoyed them all but particularly you dreamed of empires, i loved the psychedelic overtones. i just started the books of jacob too, so thanks for all the recommendations, ledge.
another one i read recently that was very good was the gallows pole by benjamin myers, about a gang of coin clippers (forgers) in england at the dawn of the industrial revolution. i'm slowly working my way through the aubrey & maturin series when i run out of other things to read, a lot of the technical details are over my head but i enjoy the characters and the writing.
― na (NA), Thursday, 19 June 2025 17:36 (two months ago)