ILB Autumn Group read POLL

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Better late than never! Sorry...you've got two weeks to make your choice. The last three choices were runners up in the summer poll thread.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
China Mieville - Embassy Town 4
nabokov - Ada 4
Phillip Roth - American Pastoral 3
Joan Didion - Play It as It Lays 3
Enrique Vila-Matas - Bartleby & Co 2
Gustave Flaubert - Bovard and Pecuchet 2
Alan Hollinghurst - The Strangers Child 2
thackeray - Vanity Fair 2
Jonathan Littell - The kindly Ones 0


xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 July 2011 19:38 (thirteen years ago)

The Stranger's Child for me, basically 'cos I've already got it.

While we're deciding things, can anyone advise how other book group discussions work? Does it need a master of ceremonies? Except for the lovely interlude where the pinefox mc'ed for us, my feeling is that we've been a bit too haphazard.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 22 July 2011 19:46 (thirteen years ago)

voted Vila-Matas

boxall, Friday, 22 July 2011 19:52 (thirteen years ago)

I'm thinking Villa-Matas too - not sure how I'll get my library to buy a new directions paperback tho'.

Littell sounds like WWII p0rn, we could debate on the 'value' of doing a thing like this. Plus my library already has this so you know...not sure if i should vote for my own choice.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 22 July 2011 20:00 (thirteen years ago)

voted bouvard and pecuchet because it is lolsome, but would try to find time in my crazy schedule for thackeray too.

j., Saturday, 23 July 2011 00:24 (thirteen years ago)

Ah, Bartleby! Ah, humanity!

Romeo Jones, Saturday, 23 July 2011 17:37 (thirteen years ago)

anything but the Kindly Ones!

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:14 (thirteen years ago)

If you guys read Bartleby, I'll read one of his others

It's So POLLED in Alaska (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 24 July 2011 23:54 (thirteen years ago)

Just voted for the Mieville.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:27 (thirteen years ago)

JM have you actually read 'the kindly ones'? there was a copy at work the other day i could have taken and i still i just ... no.

embassytown i just read.

vanity fair i am still hoping to get around to before october. when would we be doing this thing?

thomp, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 16:29 (thirteen years ago)

Haven't read it, only glanced at it in a shop, but everything about it puts me off--the hype, the size, the subject matter, the bits of prose I did read from it, the apparent pornographic delight in suffering, etc

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Tuesday, 2 August 2011 23:08 (thirteen years ago)

voted nabokov on a whim, would be happy with vila-matas, flaubert, hollinghurst, mieville.

ledge, Tuesday, 2 August 2011 23:15 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 3 August 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 4 August 2011 23:01 (thirteen years ago)

A tie! Can I switch my vote to Ada, if we're now needing to choose between the 2 winners? (I think I voted Didion before)

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Friday, 5 August 2011 00:00 (thirteen years ago)

i picked up my copy of 'ada' when i was visiting my parents last week and then put it down again, oh well. when would we start this, will i have time to find another copy

thomp, Friday, 5 August 2011 08:41 (thirteen years ago)

Ada has some lovely bits but it's probably my least favourite Nabokov. Still, I'd rather look at it again than ever read another Miéville book.

Stevie T, Friday, 5 August 2011 08:47 (thirteen years ago)

harsh!

embassytown was pretty okay. on the other hand, i am the only person smart enough in the world to recognise that 'kraken' is seven or eight times more interesting and better than 'the city and the city', so disregard my opinion.

thomp, Friday, 5 August 2011 08:52 (thirteen years ago)

also i just gave away my copy so we can't read that one

thomp, Friday, 5 August 2011 08:53 (thirteen years ago)

Ah right, I was trying to remember who it was who'd recommended Embassytown - it must've been you thomp. I really disliked The City and The City, but on the basis of your recommendation, you'll be delighted to know, I'm going to give Embassytown a shot.

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 5 August 2011 09:00 (thirteen years ago)

i don't think i mentioned it here? on tumblr i called it 'fairly rigorous fun'. i don't know. i feel like, having read the three doorstop books in my teens, i have put in enough effort with the china miéville corpus that any further reading is largely negligible. i'm not sure he's very good, though.

thomp, Friday, 5 August 2011 09:23 (thirteen years ago)

Oh right, must've been someone else. Whoever it was made it sound sufficiently better than other stuff I've read of his to make it perhaps worthwhile. I feel I want to like him for some reason. Taking genre and trying to do something new with it maybe?

Fizzles the Chimp (GamalielRatsey), Friday, 5 August 2011 09:25 (thirteen years ago)

he's really 70s though!

thomp, Friday, 5 August 2011 09:34 (thirteen years ago)

i mean, a lot of what he's doing is straight out of the new wave playbook; a lot of the time he reads like he's trying to roll things back to that. i don't think he ever quite succeeds in the synthesis of old and new, but generally i think he fails interestingly. but i'm not sure he's actually good.

also i think in some ways the genre-hopping that seems to be his thing at the moment isn't quite as good a field for him to be working in as doorstop fantasy was. - he complains about people writing genre fiction for a lark and not taking it seriously but i feel like sometimes he's guilty of that himself.

thomp, Friday, 5 August 2011 09:39 (thirteen years ago)

"We were enclosed by dirt-coloured blocks, from windows out of which leaned vested men and women with morning hair and mugs of drink, eating breakfast and watching us."

caek, Friday, 5 August 2011 11:45 (thirteen years ago)

Voted Nabokov but was secretly rooting for Vila-Matas.

Scharlach Sometimes (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 5 August 2011 15:18 (thirteen years ago)

I liked Mieville whenever I've seen him speak (never read him). The LRB review of Embassytown was some bullshit though - reviewing him on whether it fell into a literary academic box or not.

A tie! Can I switch my vote to Ada, if we're now needing to choose between the 2 winners? (I think I voted Didion before)

― not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Friday, 5 August 2011 Bookmark

Not comfortable doing this - don't mind reading Nabokov myself and *I know* its another poll but it may have to be. Only way would be to have both books. I don't know if books groups ever do two books at the same time or not. throwing that out there.

I'll post the poll tomorrow unless enough people don't want another poll.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 5 August 2011 19:06 (thirteen years ago)

New poll is the right thing to do imo.

Ismael Klata, Friday, 5 August 2011 22:10 (thirteen years ago)

fuck democracy, pick one o great leader. alphabetically. by second letter of surname.

ledge, Friday, 5 August 2011 22:15 (thirteen years ago)

New poll is good idea. Voted Ada

not bulimic, just a cat (James Morrison), Sunday, 7 August 2011 07:57 (thirteen years ago)

DUDE I JUST BOUGHT A COPY OF ADA

uh oh whats your fantasy (flopson), Sunday, 7 August 2011 07:59 (thirteen years ago)


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