Recommend me books about religious sects, cults, and small denominations

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Preferably non-fiction, preferably intelligent, readable, but not trashy. I'm especially looking for a good book on David Koresh or books on 19th-century US frontier sects. (I just finished "No Man Knows My History" by Fawn Brodie and am looking for comparable books on other groups.)

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 September 2005 13:16 (twenty years ago)

Not sure if this would apply, but Dennis Covington's Salvation on Sand Mountain concerns Appalachian snake handlers.

pr00de, where's my car? (pr00de), Thursday, 29 September 2005 15:38 (twenty years ago)

Cool, good start. Keep it going.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:20 (twenty years ago)

I will recommend a fiction book for anyone else who is interested:
"The Origin of the Brunists" by Robert Coover. His first and least experimental novel, and my favorite by him.

n/a (Nick A.), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:21 (twenty years ago)

Jeanette Winter's Oranges are not the only Fruit, which is about British evangelical Christians.

SRH (Skrik), Thursday, 29 September 2005 17:45 (twenty years ago)

I picked up Harold Bloom's The American Religion at the library but haven't read it yet. It focuses on Pentecostals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Scientists, 7th Day Adventists, Mormons, and Southern Baptists. I just finished reading the short, concise Joseph Smith by Robert Remini (who is an historian of the Jacksonian era), one of the Penguin Lives series. It undoubtedly covers the same ground as the Brodie.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:35 (twenty years ago)

I thought that Jeanette Winter book was about a young girl coming to terms with her lesbianism.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:41 (twenty years ago)

Winterson. And it's both. But not really about oranges, much.

Jaq (Jaq), Thursday, 29 September 2005 18:48 (twenty years ago)

Seductive Poison: A Jonestown Survivor's Story of Life and Death in the People's Temple by Deborah Layton

The title pretty much says it all.

Jeff LeVine (Jeff LeVine), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:02 (twenty years ago)

John McPhee has a book that is about oranges, and it's very good. So does Gilbert Sorrentino, but it's poetry and although it's good, it's not as good as the McPhee. Of course the Winterson book isn't about oranges so much, because she's hep to the fact that there are other fruit!

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 29 September 2005 19:21 (twenty years ago)

I was going to recommend the Harold Bloom as well. Try the Book of Mormon!

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Friday, 30 September 2005 00:20 (twenty years ago)

Bare Faced Messiah: The True Story of L. Ron Hubbard by Russell Miller. Infamously suppressed by the Scientologists when it was first published in the late 80s. Now you can read it here:

http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/bfm/bfmconte.htm

m coleman (lovebug starski), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:24 (twenty years ago)

this is not a book, it's a web-site with invaluable info. they have A to Z listings for a zillion sects and movements and handy histories that end with nice biblios that point you in the direction of cool books and also tons of links for further info.

here is a nice page on the oneida movement. they are fun to read about. from perfectionism to silverware! (actually, that would make a pretty good book title) :

http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/Oneida.html

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:43 (twenty years ago)

ah, the solar temple. who could forget them!

http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/solartemp.html

scott seward (scott seward), Friday, 30 September 2005 11:46 (twenty years ago)

Be aware that the Brodie book on Joseph Smith is Skewed. She has an axe to grind. But Robert Remini's book is very fair-minded and a good read.

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

There is a series of books about early Mormonism on the frontier, called The Work and the Glory. The first book in the series is Pillar of Light. I just bought a copy. Haven't read it yet, but have heard good things.

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:49 (twenty years ago)

By the way, there is also an excellent new book out by Richard Bushman, "Joseph Smith and the Beginnings of Mormonism. It should be good. Remini apparently used it as research for his own book.

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:59 (twenty years ago)

The Burned-over District: The Social and Intellectual History of Enthusiastic Religion in Western New York by Whitney Cross is a definitive book on the roots of the area that spawned not only Joseph Smith, but the Millerites (the precursors of the Advent Christians and 7th Day Adventists) and the Perfectionists (precursors of the Oneida community) and many other smaller sects.

Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 1 October 2005 03:24 (twenty years ago)

Harold Bloom's American Religion, while very interesting, is also very much Bloom. He puts the sects in question under his Gnostic magnifying glass, and both lionizes and asperses Joseph Smith. Bloom's premise is that the heart of religion in America is a form of Gnosticism, not Christian by any means (no matter how people will protest it is so), and he makes a lucid argument. But this is not an historical book; he means it as a religious criticism and goes to great pains to tell you so. He also puts his finger squarely on the myth that drives a great many fundamentalist sects in the US - that there once existed a coherent, fully-formed and thereby reconstitutable, early or primitive single Christian religion.

He throws lots of tempting little tidbits at you, but doesn't always clarify or acknowledge his sources.

Jaq (Jaq), Saturday, 1 October 2005 18:54 (twenty years ago)

Richard Bushman's new book is called "Rough Stone Rolling." I lied, and I'm sorry.

pepektheassassin (pepektheassassin), Sunday, 2 October 2005 02:02 (twenty years ago)

Conan Doyle's Study in Scarlet treats Mormonism, in a rather less-than-flattering light.

SRH (Skrik), Sunday, 2 October 2005 13:06 (twenty years ago)

what about that haruki murakami non-fiction about the tokyo subway gassings and the sect that did them? "Underground," i think. haven't read it yet, but it's been on my list for a while.

dja, Tuesday, 4 October 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)

Leonard E. Barrett Sr., The Rastafarians

Rock Hardy (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 01:26 (twenty years ago)

"Underground" is very good, and it does fit the bill.

Ray (Ray), Tuesday, 4 October 2005 07:47 (twenty years ago)

odd gods is one of the best

anthony, Monday, 10 October 2005 04:14 (twenty years ago)

I checked out "Bare-Faced Messiah" (which looks kinda trashy but I'm going to give it a shot) and "Underground" from the library, I'll keep you all posted.

n/a (Nick A.), Monday, 10 October 2005 13:37 (twenty years ago)

eight years pass...

Any recs for a book on the Heaven's Gate cult?

brimstead, Thursday, 10 July 2014 00:56 (eleven years ago)

They're not the most thrilling sect, but I'd still quite like to read this book about the Muggletonians.

woof, Thursday, 10 July 2014 10:42 (eleven years ago)

three months pass...

omg this story is BONKERS -- forced vasectomies, no children allowed in the church! accusations of jim jones-like behavior from a waxy 93 year old corpse like leader!
6 part series in the ABJ, this is the journalist talking with public radio
http://www.wksu.org/news/story/40712

http://www.ohio.com/news/local/ernest-angley-s-grace-cathedral-rocked-by-accusations-involving-abortions-and-vasectomies-1.531094

Rev. Angley came to Akron from North Carolina. He built up his congregation before buying up the operations of fellow televangelist Rex Humbard in the 1970s. Angley eventually brought what’s now CW 55 to the air in 1985.

He’s been operating the station -- plus Grace Cathedral and a restaurant, Cathedral Buffet -- in Cuyahoga Falls since 1994. But during a sermon this past July, the 93-year-old addressed allegations of sexual misconduct in his organization. That led to a call to the Beacon Journal’s Bob Dyer, who spent the last several months interviewing almost two dozen former church members.

Preventing children

He and others say Angley holds so much sway over his members’ lives that he has persuaded them to get abortions and vasectomies even when they didn’t want to.

“None of us have kids because he makes all the men get fixed,” said Becky Roadman, 32, who quit the church last year and now lives in Georgia. “You’re not allowed to have babies there.”

That assertion is seconded by Akron resident Angelia Oborne, who worked in the church’s restaurant, the Cathedral Buffet, for 20 years before quitting the church a year and a half ago.

“My husband and I can’t have children because my husband had a vasectomy,” she said. “We were looking at getting it reversed, but I’m 35 years old and ... may not be able to have children anymore.

“And that breaks my heart, because that choice was made for me, because of the brainwashing, the mind control. We weren’t allowed to have children. If you turned up pregnant, it’s almost as if you had sinned.”

Oborne says Angley once advised a friend to think of her growing fetus as “a tumor.”

“She was four months pregnant and she sat in the [abortion clinic] waiting room and told her baby that she was so sorry that she was doing this,” Oborne said.

“I know another girl — she won’t come forward — but she was forced into having four abortions.”

whaaaaaaat

cross over the mushroom circle (La Lechera), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 02:16 (eleven years ago)

damn this is a thread that is very aligned with my interests that i have never seen before.

call all destroyer, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 02:44 (eleven years ago)

Going Clear, obv

my jaw left (Hurting 2), Tuesday, 14 October 2014 03:11 (eleven years ago)

This is fiction, and I already praised it in the Autumn 2014 reading thread, but I love Jeanne Thornton's The Dream of Doctor Bantam, which is about a girl in mourning for her sister who falls in love with a member of a Scientology-like cult devoted to uprooting its members' belief in temporality. It's a comic novel, but insightful about sectarian recruitment and the emotional compensations cult membership seems to offer. Thornton drew a pretty amusing mock-Chick Tract to illustrate her fictional cult's beliefs: https://www.scribd.com/doc/105155731/Love-Is-a-Battlefield-A-Publication-of-the-Institute-of-Temporal-Illusions I've also heard good things about Brian Evenson's novel The Open Curtain, about apocryphal violence in early Mormon history, but I can't vouch for it yet.

one way street, Tuesday, 14 October 2014 16:14 (eleven years ago)

Tim Parks's first novel, 'Tongues of Flame' is a good one about a small hardline Christian sect trying to bring a rebellious atheist teenager to heel. Very autobiographical, apparently (the rebel was Parks's older brother).

ornamental cabbage (James Morrison), Wednesday, 15 October 2014 00:07 (eleven years ago)


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