http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/jan/31/buildingachildrenslibrary.guardianchildrensfictionprize2005?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487
^^ this is a nonentity of an article i found by accident and i don't recommend anyone reading but it has the following three lists of what Famous Literary Figures thought were ten things ppl ought to read before leaving school and they all made me go ~hmmmm~ albeit in different ways
JK RowlingAuthor of the Harry Potter series
Wuthering Heights - Emily BrontëCharlie and the Chocolate Factory - Roald DahlRobinson Crusoe - Daniel DefoeDavid Copperfield - Charles DickensHamlet - William ShakespeareTo Kill a Mockingbird - Harper LeeAnimal Farm - George OrwellThe Tale of Two Bad Mice - Beatrix PotterThe Catcher in the Rye - JD SalingerCatch-22 - Joseph Heller
Philip PullmanAuthor of the His Dark Materials trilogy
Finn Family Moomintroll - Tove JanssonEmil and the Detectives - Erich KästnerThe Magic Pudding - Norman LindsayThe Rime of the Ancient Mariner - Samuel Taylor ColeridgeWhere the Wild Things Are - Maurice SendakThe Ballad of Sir Patrick Spens (or other good anonymous ballads)First Book of Samuel, Chapter 17 (the story of David and Goliath)Romeo and Juliet - William ShakespeareA good collection of myths and legendsA good collection of fairytales
Andrew MotionPoet laureate
The Odyssey HomerDon Quixote Miguel de CervantesHamlet William ShakespeareParadise Lost John MiltonLyrical Ballads Samuel Taylor Coleridge and William WordsworthJane Eyre Charlotte BrontëGreat Expectations Charles DickensPortrait of a Lady Henry JamesUlysses James JoyceThe Waste Land TS Eliot
― thomp, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 01:14 (thirteen years ago)
should have made this a poll of 'which of these ppl do you dislike most based simply on the following lists'
i forgot to do anything about formatting motion's but i'm sure yr all aware that 'lyrical ballads samuel taylor coleridge and' isn't a book.
― thomp, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 01:15 (thirteen years ago)
Andrew Motion's just trolling right?
― Doch! (seandalai), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 01:31 (thirteen years ago)
Hm. I think it's kind of difficult, really, because there's such a difference between primary school and secondary school. And what are they expected to do with the list, name things that they think should be on the curriculum, or name books that they would personally recommend to kids?
Taking those problems into account, the first two lists strike me as pretty much fine, really. A mix of target ages, mostly classics, meh, I can't think of any reason why it would make me hate them. Motion's list, on the other hand, is pretentious bullshit. Yes, Ulysses is amazing, and yes, some kids are more than able to handle it. But why the hell would you put it on a list of things that you think all kids should read before they leave school? I didn't read it until I was in my late teens, and although I was surprised by how naturally I took to it after all the 'difficult' hype, I still think that it's a ridiculous thing to do.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 01:37 (thirteen years ago)
Andrew Motion is as big a cock in real life as he is on lists like this. JK Rowling is a liar: she openly cribbed half her shit from Nesbit, Williams, Lindsay, Lewis, Wynne-Jones, Travers, Johnson, Keary, Kinglsey, Cooper, Jacques, Lively, Elias, et al., and yet lists a bunch of canonical Establishment White People. Pullman is a little more honest, but he's blinkered by euro canonicity and historical respectibility, and blows the opportunity to make an Actual List That A Child Might Like.
― aka vanilla bean (remy bean), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 01:39 (thirteen years ago)
I like Pullman's list. Accessible but sort of unconventional.
I was in the attic today and found an old poetry anthology that my father owned as a child, complete with scribbled marginalia, doodles, and a whole page of spirited signature practicing. I also, coincidentally, found his copy of Kipling's Just So Stories. Keats and Kipling seem like great writers to give to a very young person.
― Träumerei, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 01:46 (thirteen years ago)
Pullman is a little more honest, but he's blinkered by euro canonicity and historical respectibility, and blows the opportunity to make an Actual List That A Child Might Like
says "should read", not "might like". not that you're wrong. the rowling list is just baffling ... that's a list of "what every child is, already, made to read," ffs
― thomp, Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:07 (thirteen years ago)
i have a little sympathy for andrew motion here tbh, at least he's thinking outside the box eh
lolllllllll @ motion
― puff puff post (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Wednesday, 21 March 2012 02:10 (thirteen years ago)