Famous for the wrong book

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inspired by this:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/jul/19/famous-wrong-book-vonnegut-waugh-ishiguro?commentpage=13#start-of-comments

1.Nostormo>>Heart Of Darkness (Conrad)

nostormo, Sunday, 15 July 2012 08:23 (twelve years ago)

Couldn't think of a better recommendation for The Unconsoled than Tony Parsons wanting to consign it to the flames.

ledge, Sunday, 15 July 2012 10:53 (twelve years ago)

My suggestion perhaps doesn't count, as a) he's not actually very famous outside some circles, and b) he used to be famous for the right book, but I nominate B.S. Johnson. Nowadays, if you ever mention him, the ONLY book people will have heard of or read is Christie Malry's Own Double Entry. Which, you know, is fine. It's witty, acerbic, shows off some of his metafictional strengths. But it's ultimately inconsequential. His true masterpiece always has and always will be The Unfortunates. It's both emotionally compelling and formally radical.

emil.y, Sunday, 15 July 2012 13:30 (twelve years ago)

(And I'm definitely with the author of the article on Slaughterhouse Five not being Vonnegut's best work... I'm just not sure I could pick my own favourite.)

emil.y, Sunday, 15 July 2012 13:32 (twelve years ago)

Oh, and duh, Pale Fire is way way way better than Lolita.

emil.y, Sunday, 15 July 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago)

A scan of my bookshelf suggests popular consensus is largely otm. In my estimation "Local Anaesthetic" > "The Tin Drum" and "The Old Devils" > "Lucky Jim".

Mishima is frustrating b/c people know "Confessions of a mask", "The temple of the Golden Pavilion" and "The Sea of Fertility" but for me it's all about the lightest of the light ("Sound of waves", "After the banquet") and the darkest of the dark ("Forbidden Colours").

A lot of people got turned on to/off of Houellebecq b/c of their opinions on "Particles" or "Platform" but "The possibility of an island" is probably one of my favourite SF novels ever full-stop.

I couldn't say "Shakespeare's comedies" > "Shakespeare's tragedies" but I'd go see "Twelfth Night" or "As you like it" before "Hamlet" or "Othello" any day of the week.

+1 on "Pale fire" being awesome and dominated by "Lolita"'s notoriety but I couldn't say which book is better.

Ówen P., Sunday, 15 July 2012 13:52 (twelve years ago)

the Calvino = If, on a Winter's Night... equation has always bothered me. It's not nearly his best IMO. Luckily Invisible Cities is prob the 2nd most feted, which is much more apt.

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 15 July 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago)

Always thought Invisible Cities was his most famous work.

the Notorious B1G1 (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 15 July 2012 23:05 (twelve years ago)

Is Vonnegut's best maybe Cat's Cradle? My favourite, anyway.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Sunday, 15 July 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago)

The Book of Mormon was a big hit for Joseph Smith but I really rate his picture book, Night Night, Lamanites.

Team Safeword (Abbbottt), Monday, 16 July 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago)

Feel like Dan Clowes may be best known for many books, most likely Ghost World, and I really wish more people knew & loved David Boring.

Team Safeword (Abbbottt), Monday, 16 July 2012 04:50 (twelve years ago)

comic books arent books

calum-y maybe (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 16 July 2012 05:17 (twelve years ago)

solid burn, well-argued

¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Monday, 16 July 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago)

noted author of hipster puppies upholds literary values

Ward Fowler, Monday, 16 July 2012 09:01 (twelve years ago)

really hoping nostormo's display name isn't based on a misreading of Nostromo

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2012 10:09 (twelve years ago)

i mean, there was a sf film about it and everything

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2012 10:09 (twelve years ago)

altho i guess there was that Vietnam flick about Heart of Drakness

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2012 10:11 (twelve years ago)

Don't forget The Ginger of the Narcissus.

ledge, Monday, 16 July 2012 10:13 (twelve years ago)

The Secret Gent is pretty good

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2012 10:15 (twelve years ago)

Quite keen on Thy Poon myself

mod night at the oasis (NickB), Monday, 16 July 2012 10:18 (twelve years ago)

meta: I admired the original post when it showed up on the guardian - like there's this quite narrow, dismal round of comment-magnet gambits in posts about books (Best opening/final lines, 'great american novel, best/worst covers, overrated classics etc) and this figured out a new one that took off.

Not sure I have much to add on the topic, just because I struggle a bit to come up with most-famous-for-one-book authors (fr'instance in my head Cornad is famous for Heart of Darkness, Lord Jim, The Secret Agent and Nostromo, not just HoD), and when I do, even if I prefer a diff book, it's not like i feel like the consensus is wrong.

woof, Monday, 16 July 2012 10:28 (twelve years ago)

xp

Nuder Western Eyes for me

woof, Monday, 16 July 2012 10:29 (twelve years ago)

yeah, i've always thought Nostromo was Conrad's magnum ope which probly dates back to uni literature course plus of course it's his baggiest idea-est novel which is my fave kind of novel, don't think you can argue with Drakness in a Leavisite sense and Leavis's shadow hangs looooong over mainstream canon-making

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2012 10:34 (twelve years ago)

and Secret Agent had Hitch going for it which, y'know, god bless Poocalypse Meow but Hitch>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Coppola

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2012 10:34 (twelve years ago)

i guess i can see Drakness the most likely to be done in school, which is close to defining 'famous for one book' - Golding, Salinger, Orwell (2 books in his case).

Didn't Leavis himself prefer Nostormo to HoD? Too many woolly adjectives iirc.

woof, Monday, 16 July 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago)

Leavis might well've gone with Nostormo but he was such a contrary cuss, it's clearly less...defined...than his rulebook ought to allow. but then thinking about this now the fucker worshiped Lawrence and ruled out Dickens for what appear to be mutually conflicting reasons

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2012 10:46 (twelve years ago)

i mean i grudgingly love Leavis for his Cambridge class warrior kill dem belle lettrists thing but he is the murderer of secondary school literature teaching in the post-war era

Tartar Mouantcheoux (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 July 2012 10:47 (twelve years ago)

I don't have much love for him myself - I disagree with him a lot (said before on here that I think he's a weak critic of poetry), and there's that moral streak I find a bit sus - kind of seriousness that is great for *getting things done*, but I find really unsympathetic. Prefer Richards (and Empson, but he's something different) from that era; and yes, otm about school teaching of English - I'd be interested to properly trace the spread of the cult of leavis through university departments and into secondary schools.

woof, Monday, 16 July 2012 11:16 (twelve years ago)

Leavis used HOD to illustrate everything he DIDN'T like about Conrad so it's pretty safe to say it wouldn't have been the canonical Conrad novel(ette) for him.

frankiemachine, Monday, 16 July 2012 12:24 (twelve years ago)

Damn novel(ette) = novel(la)

frankiemachine, Monday, 16 July 2012 12:25 (twelve years ago)

any dude who fucks with Dickens gets a throat-punch from me

Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Monday, 16 July 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago)

carson mccullers is (rightly) known for 'heart is a lonely hunter' but i wish 'member of the wedding' got more love.

i tend to prefer tennessee williams' weird lesser-known plays ('suddenly last summer,' 'small craft warnings') to the famous ones, except for 'streetcar' of course.

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 16 July 2012 17:40 (twelve years ago)

Camus is best known for The Stranger and The Myth of Sisyphus, but his later books are better than those.

Brad C., Monday, 16 July 2012 17:54 (twelve years ago)

Lydia Davis. Everyone raves about her short stories but her one novel, The End of The Story, is her best work IMO.

Romeo Jones, Monday, 16 July 2012 23:46 (twelve years ago)

carson mccullers is (rightly) known for 'heart is a lonely hunter' but i wish 'member of the wedding' got more love.

Ooo, good one. Member is a beautiful, beautiful book.

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Tuesday, 17 July 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago)

i think vonnegut should be known for cat's cradle.

pale fire is v.n.'s masterpiece, but i've always wished pnin were better loved. pnin is also the first book i recommend to someone who has never read nabokov.

isherwood is best known i think for the world in the evening. i'm so blinded by my affection for prater violet i can't tell whether it's really a better book or if i just have a goofy crush on it, but p.v. is certainly the book i think of when i think of isherwood.

the decline and fall of me, Monday, 23 July 2012 16:17 (twelve years ago)

carson mccullers is (rightly) known for 'heart is a lonely hunter' but i wish 'member of the wedding' got more love.

Ooo, good one. Member is a beautiful, beautiful book.

― computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Monday, July 16, 2012 8:41 PM (1 week ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

The Member of the Wedding is the best McCullers novel imo. But The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter is legitimately great too; everybody should read both!

Also, Sometimes a Great Notion >>> One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

cwkiii, Monday, 23 July 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago)

I suspect I'm the only person on the planet who loves Kesey's 'Sailor Song'

computers are the new "cool tool" (James Morrison), Tuesday, 24 July 2012 01:18 (twelve years ago)

Whenever I mention Georges Perec to (most) people, the only flicker of recognition I get is when I say "he's the fellow who write a book without the lesser E".

"Life A User's Manual" >>>>>>>>>>>>"A Void", obv. (Actually all his other novels >> "AV" also but LAUM particularly so.)

Tim, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 12:27 (twelve years ago)

I would say Life A Users Manual is his most celebrated book

Number None, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago)

xxp I've had Sailor Song on my shelf for a few years now but haven't given it a chance yet. The inner flap wasn't very promising, though I should know better by now than to put too much stock in that.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:14 (twelve years ago)

xp
agreed. Also, tho it doesn't affect decline & fall's suggestion, I'd say Isherwood's most famous are A Single Man and the Berlin books.

woof, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:17 (twelve years ago)

Ha, Tim, I think the exact opposite. Not only am I with Number None in believing that L:AUM is more acclaimed, but I think that it is wrong. A Void is a beautiful piece of work.

emil.y, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:27 (twelve years ago)

Heh. I think among literary types LAUM gets more acclaim; the no e book gets way more recognition among others I talk to. I like "A Void" well enough; LAUM is pretty much my favourite book ever, though, so my judgement may be right off.

Tim, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:33 (twelve years ago)

(I should say that I think was wrong that all his other novels >> AV, actually, I think AV is probably of a similar quality to "A Man Asleep", for me.)

Tim, Tuesday, 24 July 2012 13:34 (twelve years ago)


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