stet/keith question or whoever is in charge of code these days

I'm not stet, Keith or in charge of code, but I can say that SBs are registering as they always have.

is it supposed to go to a white screen after you click the button?

hmmm, no, it's supposed to go back to the thread with the post that you SB'd. Hopefully stet will see this tomorrow morning UK time.

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― for all the fucked-up children of this world we give you 1p3 (history mayne), Friday, February 18, 2011 3:51 AM (2 months ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

lold at this

is it supposed to go to a white screen after you click the button?

― sarahel, Thursday, April 21, 2011 11:41 AM (43 minutes ago) Bookmark

usually happens when you are banned from a subforum iirc, and no the SB doesn't register

Ah, ok, yes, you were banned from I Rate Everything a year ago for some reason.

PWND

now why would jergins do a thing like that???

yo whatever update you guys just did about 10 minutes ago... when i click "bookmark" on a post it jumps me back to the top of the page now... anyway to change it back?

From looking at the logs, most ppl click "Bookmark" then choose another of their bookmarks to read. So the thinking here is that it jumps you back to your bookmarks to save you scrolling or w/e.

It's taking a bit of getting used to, I admit. Can we give it a couple of days?

yeah i was a bit thrown by that, but i can see getting used to it

yo whatever update you guys just did about 10 minutes ago... when i click "bookmark" on a post it jumps me back to the top of the page now... anyway to change it back?

― ⚓ (gr8080), dinsdag 31 januari 2012 22:56 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Haha nooooooooooo I just came here to *praise* the mods for that!! I love it!

Saves a helluvalot of pressing on page up/home to go to the next bookmarked thread!

haha ok.

i was totally unaware until you changed it, but i guess my pattern is get to last post/post i want to stop on -> click bookmark -> read last post -> click permalink (so last post is now at top of page) -> pick from remaining bookmarks

so i guess you're saving me some clicks, i just need to re-train myself

From looking at the logs, most ppl click "Bookmark" then choose another of their bookmarks to read. So the thinking here is that it jumps you back to your bookmarks to save you scrolling or w/e.

From SNA, I open a bookmarked thread in a new tab, click 'Bookmark' in that thread, then open a new bookmarked thread from my SNA tab. So I do what the logs indicate, but not in the way it looks in the logs.

Ha, this is brilliant, and 2 hours ago would've saved me the trouble of looking up how to do Page Up/Home on a MacBook Pro (not before I accidentally managed to shut it down by pressing some combo of Apple key and what looked like it might be a Page Up button).

Thanks!

I don't like it, personally. But I do *tend* to read the last post before clicking the button, so I guess I can live with it if I have to. I usually click to SNA rather than other bookmarks.

so i guess you're saving me some clicks, i just need to re-train myself

― ⚓ (gr8080), dinsdag 31 januari 2012 23:04 (26 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

This goes for me too, my fingers on my laptop - both hands - are still going to shift(left) + pgUp/Home (right). I *want* to get used to this.

Ahh the simple joys in life... Stet <3

I should point out that I don't care either way – my post was an explanation of what I do, not a complaint about the change.

yeah i think i'll like this as soon as i get used to it

enjoy the idea of stet pouring over the ilx logs for user behavior insights

how the hell did following this link from the Flag Post thread change my style sheet???

it logged you out, maybe?

its kinda jarring, tbqh a radical approach, i salute yr courage

sleeve are you logged into ilxor.com or www.ilxor.com?

"Flag Post"? Wait I only just noticed this.

FPing someone for that.

I hate this change :'( Can we maybe have the choice to use it or not?

yeah not feeling it.

another thing: if i bookmark something and then select that same bookmark once it jumps to the top of the page (like say i walked away from my computer for a while), it will take me to the OLD bookmark from that page

mostly i just dont like jumping back to the top of the page in general

really enjoying this now tbh

we should all should give it a few days imho

it is p unusual and appy tho, just my pro opinion

it's not so bad that i'd quit ilx over it (i'd probably chew the tips off my fingers before i quit ilx) but i do find it deeply unpleasant and would prefer the option to turn it off

i really like the way bookmarking works now tbh

ditto

The new bookmarking thing works for me. Didn't even know I wanted it.

agree with mordy

Im kinda amazed how many ppl use bookmarks this religiously. Ive nevre even given them a thought.

i get so bogged down with my unread bookmarks i rarely look at SNA :(

I tend to rely on my browser's turning a viste3d link pink/the "new posts" unfilled dot. So when the site gets rebooted and they all clear, Im completely lost haha.

i get so bogged down with my unread bookmarks i rarely look at SNA :(

One of a few reasons why I changed my name!

There was a while where pplains wasn't on 77 yet, and I'd log in as Pleasant Plains to check in. Fuck, those bookmarks stacked up fast.

Check out the blue cursor on the side to give you an idea of how far up it goes.

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/392/screenshot20120201at820.png

poll

yah after some p intense experiences w/stacked up bookmarks im careful abt unfollowing threads im not actively reading, only have 5 outstanding now

need to go back and bookmark "an erotic thriller" again tho'.

i have to clear bookmarks compulsively tbh

dont need to bookmark it... im living it

sux for you... most intercourse involves penetration you know.

i was lazy, but there really should have been a comma before those last two words.

hah

Im kinda amazed how many ppl use bookmarks this religiously. Ive nevre even given them a thought.

I could not use ilx without bookmarks, seriously

Still [ img ] tags. You have to put the address of an image file in between the tags, not a web page, and if you link to an image on a major social media platform, it won’t display for many people.

an integrated image thingie would be amazing but imgur works pretty well. as others have said, the ios “post to imgur” shortcut makes this a very slick process.

i would like to thank the ilx code cru for the hidden text feature without which the fun Semantle thread would not be possible

last night it kept asking me to login and I've had 5 of so posts that didn't post, just returned a blank page. something seems wrong, but it also feels like it'd be impossible to debug.

happens to me too sometimes (maybe once a week?)

stet/keith or whoever is in charge of code these days,

*third guy to get handed the mic at the Q&A*

hello, a comment and a question.

first of all, as always, thank you so much, and with every year that passes i appreciate more and more what a special place ilx is and how much of that is related the beautiful simplicity of how it works. i don't know anything about any of that but i feel the benefits of your work all the same. thank you!

the question: as you're probably already aware, chatgpt is starting to crawl the internet:

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2023/08/openai-details-how-to-keep-chatgpt-from-gobbling-up-website-data/

Without announcement, OpenAI recently added details about its web crawler, GPTBot, to its online documentation site. GPTBot is the name of the user agent that the company uses to retrieve webpages to train the AI models behind ChatGPT, such as GPT-4. Earlier this week, some sites quickly announced their intention to block GPTBot's access to their content.

In the new documentation, OpenAI says that webpages crawled with GPTBot "may potentially be used to improve future models," and that allowing GPTBot to access your site "can help AI models become more accurate and improve their general capabilities and safety."

i was wondering if ilx will move to block GPTBot as well. for what it's worth, i register as a hard "please block GPTBot" vote

...because god, it's going to be creepy if chatgpt users can really ask it to compose stuff in the voice of a particular poster

well i already do that all the time so

After I'd been posting to ilx for about 13 years my voice changed.

Won’t be long before there’s going to be some kind of Night of the Living Dead of Fake Tuomases, Fake James Redds, Fake Tracer Hands etc.

Night of the Living Redd

fake luna

Lol

Impersonate another Chatbot!

ILX is already in ChatGPT - there was a site which showed you which percentage of the training data you were, and we were high among the also-rans.

Block does seem like a good idea for all our vital future posts tho

excited to encounter the deepest of our lore out in the wild

ILX had a number of prolific posters who contributed to its active community. Some of the notable and influential posters over the years included individuals like Sterling Clover, Andy K, Nick Sylvester, and Mark Sinker. These posters were known for their extensive contributions, insightful discussions, and sometimes controversial opinions, which helped shape the character of ILX as a unique online forum for music and various other topics. However, keep in mind that individual participation can change over time, and my information might not be up to date with the latest developments on ILX.

no, that pretty much covers it up til now!

Your mileage may vary.

ChatGPT, tell me all you know about the chickenbear.

chatGPT, please read all my previous posts and suggest new posts i could make that would be an improvement

...but do it in the style of the chickenbear

gaz coombes

Bosko Balaban

Write about grocery groin to the tune of Ernie K Doe's "Mother in Law"

This isn't so much a question as it is an expression of puzzlement but...I just posted via Zing a short while ago and the DN displayed on my post is an older DN that is not the DN I'm currently using. Should that be happening? And might the fact of it happening have anything to do with the fact that my iPhone is old as shit (it's a 6)? I guess those last two actually were questions.

It shouldn't be happening – there's a weird situation in the code where it can keep two copies of a user around. You end up with two different sets of bookmarks and sometimes two DNs etc. I've never been able to really track the cause of it down, it's (probably) not your fault tho

I’ve just got my first iPhone and the Bookmark Post links JavaScript does not work and instead go to a form to submit instead. Is that expected?

download Zing Touch from the app store!

Can’t view it in my theme though :D

Speaking of which I am seeing a load of rendering bugs on the iPhone I need to fix.

Is that expected?

Feel free to send me updates to the stylesheet!

One day! Been meaning to do it for a couple of years for general bugs.

Any idea on the bookmark bug though?

not a bug - deliberate behaviour: there's a non-Javascript flow, which mobile devices use because they were buggy back in the day. You can see it on desktop if you disable JS in site settings

It’s always worked on Android browsers though 🤷

Yeah, I have a vague recollection of just stopping it doing the Javascript thing on mobile at all; however, that would've been just after the first iPhone launched, so when you say it's always worked on Android, well, it's kind of always not worked on Android, as when I wrote that bit of code, Android didn't exist, so it seems whatever mechanism I used to filter it out didn't work once Android appeared.

FWIW, I was definitely using Android to read ilx every day for like two years before Android officially existed and it worked fine so thanks!

I’m happy to take a look and suggest code to get the experience on iPhone up to par :)

We need an “ILX is better in the app” popup apparently they’re all the rage

Ah yes, sorry, I had forgotten about the shareholder value :)

would you consider embedding bsky.app links like twitter/x.com links?

arguably twitter embeds have made this site worse, but since we can't unring that bell it would be cool to be able to link to the non-nazi alternative

https://bsky.social/about/blog/post-embeds-guide

yes! have been meaning to see if this was possible for a while. Thanks!

thanks!

I seem to have made the text very small when viewing on Chrome browser on laptop.

Any idea what I've done as it only affects ILX and I can't see anything obvious in Site Preferences?

Ta

try hitting Cmd-zero if you're on a Mac (Ctrl-0 on Windows)

have you just zoomed out? ctrl-0 should restore to the default

(in firefox there's a '65%' thing in the url bar to tell you you've zoomed out)

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