Now what happened to the New New New Leak Alert Thread (The REvenge)???

The real reason is because the "M" in ILM now stands for "mean people."

What sorts of things are frowned on?

Illiteracy, treating ILM as your personal music bank and forum for piracy, posting of not-safe-for-work pictures, pointless list threads, incessant self-promotion, in short killing music by not talking about it. While not encouraged, moderaters will at times take apparently arbitrary action against general idiocy when the signal-noise ratio exceeds their personal sanity threshold. When they do so, this is generally both unfortunate and completely understandable.

Fuck!

... then why were Jess' privileges revoked?

xpost

HAHAHA I just kid.

The "L" in ILM stands for "love."

And the answer should be "Because this forum encourages a hostile environment where people should be scared to ask questions because then it makes us look more l33t."

-- billstevejim (tummlerandsolomo...), February 18th, 2006 1:21 PM. (billstevejim) (later)

http://www.halloweencostumeworld.com/images/PIRATE%20STUFF/19360ooom.jpg

The "where" was not referring to "the forum in which I gathered my downloading suggestions," but rather it was referring to the new artists themselves. I recalled seeing interesting stuff in that thread, and I couldn't remember any of it at the time wrote that. I have since recalled a few of them.

The reality of the situation is that I recieve dozens of promo CD's every week, and I was looking for help with which ones I should pay the most attention to, since I don't have time to listen to all of them. Some of those that appeared interesting and which I didn't recieve in the mail, I was planning on downloading to check out. I rarely used those leak threads in the past. I'm not an indie-rock pirate. I was planning on promoting, which is the opposite of piracy.

and yeah there's a big difference between whole albums (especially by less mainstream artists) and particular tracks.

If any more threads are started, and if Sterl or any of the other mods don't shitcan them immediately, I'll be making them registered users only and unindexing them from search engines. Like the 0ink and k4z44 threads, they seemed to be the less fun sort of google-bait. Also, I noticed that there was more than one individual on those threads whose entire posting history on ilm cosisted of tiny variations on a/when is the new {xxxx} album going to leak plz plz plz give me free music" or "come to my ftp site, I'll invite you to join my secret file sharing society if I think you're k3wl enough". This is basically exploiting the board - giving nothing in terms of joining in w/music discussion/arguing/community/whatever, just basically strolling up, grabbing & taking &/or self-promoting and then just fucking off. If anyone turns up pulling such shit in future, they're on a level with spammers as far as I'm concerned, and they're cruising for a sitewide ip ban.

that's all I can think of for now. Any suggestions gratefully received etc.

NEW NEW NEW NEW ALBUM LEAK ALERT(CAN'T,WON'T,DON'T STOP)

in light of the googlers it has attracted, and the extent to which it has contributed to the furthering of ilm's collective retardization, i acknowledge it was a super-bad thing in retrospect. i don't know if this is worth anything, but an as ilm mod, my personal opinion at this point is that we should be strenuously and concertedly squashing any followup threads, and, for that matter, by way of ip banning, the endless procession of anon dweebs requesting ysis and oink invites.

fwiw, i think we should also be doing our best as mods to steer users towards old threads as often as possible, preferably by linking and locking rather than deleting. without directing new users to past threads with identical subjects, we're engendering the construction of another layer of discussion on top of what's archived, a lot of which is bound to be straight repetition of whats been said/listed years before and therefore just more noise. while that won't necessarily create more signal, it might help unclutter the slate and staunch the old-school exodus. the absence/souring of a lot of whom, let's face it, is a huge reason why ilm sucks now.

forks if you seriously think this is what's happening you are mad. I agree with pash and mark.

fwiw, i think we should also be doing our best as mods to steer users towards old threads as often as possible, preferably by linking and locking rather than deleting. without directing new users to past threads with identical subjects, we're engendering the construction of another layer of discussion on top of what's archived, a lot of which is bound to be straight repetition of whats been said/listed years before and therefore just more noise. while that won't necessarily create more signal, it might help unclutter the slate and staunch the old-school exodus. the absence/souring of a lot of whom, let's face it, is a huge reason why ilm sucks now.

totally otm.

I don't recall seeing Felicity posting anywhere on ilx for a long time, though she might have changed her handle or something. Does anyone know her off board? If so, can they ask her if she wants to remain on the list, or can I remove her as well?

I added electricsound jim to the ilm mods list - he's active, has been doing good work on the ile side, and most importantly, he covers a gap, timezonewise.

If anyone drops out on the north american east coast, I'll add Cutty. At present we have JBR, Jess, Sterling and Mark P all busy & active, so it seems redundant to add another mod from there.

Looking at the reaction to Jess' deletions the other day, it looks to me like most ilm people either haven't even noticed (I must admit, I didn't notice, b/c of the drop in the bucket effect cited by Sterling) or don't care enough to comment. Most of the people who have commented seem to approve, or are OK about it, most of the people who aren't ok about it are, well, orson, basically. So I just reinstalled Jess' mod privs.

After all the bullshit yesterday, I banned "orson" from ilx. It will have to promote its ftp site elsewhere.

I think that at this point, if someone posts up a load of abusive/obnoxious/nsfw shit on ilm, as happens from time to time, then there's going to be someone awake and online who can deal with it quickly?

Can deleted threads be resurrected? I am genuinely annoyed and perplexed that it disappeared. (I had been quite happily thinking that no one saw the need to bring it back just because Pfork had weighed in, but now I see that it wasn't brought back because it was mysteriously deleted. Which isn't anywhere near the accomplishment.)

see this ilm search, here.

I don't know if it can be resurrected from this or not. Alan or Noodles would know, I suppose?

Yes, thanks.

Seriously, is there nowhere to go to protest the arbitrary deletion of a 450+ post thread that had been around for weeks?

Did you catch these comments which weren't made on the moderator board:

anyway, what happened to that other thread from a few days ago, where people were listing their favorite albums of 2006 already? it was here, but now it seems to be gone, unless i am just blind. was it deleted? and if so, why? it was a perfectly nice thread.

-- xhuxk , February 20th, 2006 4:57 PM.

Deleted. Discussion of this is on the ILX Moderator Request Forum, xhuxk.
-- zebedee , February 20th, 2006 5:01 PM. (zebedee)

Let me just say, before this thread is deleted too, that a lot of y'all are on power trips.
-- Haikunym , February 20th, 2006 5:26 PM. (Haikunym)

Whatever. I don't have much time to post anyway. The only thing that gets on my tits these days is my baby. ;-)

I heard about this on the internet

Dick Cheney - What's On Your Walkman?
What's a goodf band name for these dudes?

Or any of the other goof threads that provide people a cheap larf and/or give ILM some character. If a thread is stupid, it'll die out. If people keep posting to it, obviously there's some interest, for whatever reason. It's a built-in corrective to the system. Draconian attempts to exert control might make you feel nice and powerful but they create an alienating, stifled environment. People notice, and it's like the Complaint Department. For every person who complains, there are at least 10 who say nothing (but don't come back).

It was on the Destroyer's Rubies thread that I first introduced the concept of "post-yacht." Now it is lost forever and for that I shed a quiet tear. Requiescat in pace.

there is obviously a need for it at this point.

somewhere, a sheep bleats for its mother.

and somewhere, a lonely emo kid writes a poem.

Wow, it's like that Van Halen video, innit?

I noticed! And I don't like people fucking with my pointless threads! Where do I have to go to discuss Acid Ant, discogs???? no thank you. Fine, you aren't a coldcut fan, i don't care. maybe the paid in full remix IS the only good thing they ever did. fuck it, i'm never starting another thread. i've learned my lesson. i'll just post on old ones. and i do apologize if i bum people on ilm out for being too pointless and not contributing anything interesting. maybe i'll just lurk from now on, and occasionally add something to the metal thread if that's okay with the moderators.

ha that was my high school yearbook quote!
-- cutty (holle...), February 21st, 2006 12:07 PM.

Yeah, it's a good one. I hope you quoted it right, cause I sure as hell didn't.

Now can we please lock this thread and continue this discussion here:
Destroye's Rubies

-- dan. (dan_haa...), February 20th, 2006. (later)

I obviously don't object to the pointing to past threads that deal with the same subject. However, when done in this kind of big brotherly way it stinks of the "Internet" or your standard message board. Most message boards suck in a pretty bad way and one of the draws of ILM is it's openness and the fact that good and or entertaining discussion happens despite or rather because of that relative openness.

I was annoyed that the Destroyer thread was deleted

too arbitrary

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When they pulled me back
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haha I posted ONCE to that yyy thread to make fun of the ppl asking for leaks! I recognize what type of stuff you are frustrated with but don't lump me in with it, I've been posting on the beardo disco thread, electro-house bobbins, optimo, villalobos, all kindsa shit. Oops I also happen to like Destroyer, MY BAD.

"i don't know where the fuck yr. dull clique came from but plz. give it a rest and play nice."

plz. get off the rag and stop being so condescending

ok I am giving it a rest starting ..... now. ahhh. much better.

get me back

k thx bye