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I know it may be asking for trouble but you might get some useful suggestions by placing this thread - I'm thinking of rewriting ILX - either here or in ILE/M as non-moderators may have some good ideas.

― Onimo (GerryNemo), Thursday, 30 March 2006 10:40 (nineteen years ago)

Ignore user/Ignore thread would be AWESOME, especially if the board became registered users only.

― Dan (Yay) Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 30 March 2006 11:22 (nineteen years ago)

the ignore thread/user thing has been considered and thrown out so often, i don't think it would happen.

HOWEVER if the "last read" functionality could be fully restored, it would be fairly simple to list "New Answers (but only if i've already read the thread)" so you could make your own sub-set of New Answers that way - and remove them with the "forget" link. Obviously to see new threads or old threads that have popped back up on to NA you'd have to see the full NA list.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Thursday, 30 March 2006 12:09 (nineteen years ago)

Ignore users is for WUSSIES who wear STUSSY. You don't wear STUSSY do you?

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Thursday, 30 March 2006 12:13 (nineteen years ago)

I am wearing a Stussy t-shirt today.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:33 (nineteen years ago)

so's this guy in my office

― RJG (RJG), Thursday, 30 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

i thought there was already a greasemonkey extension someone made that did the ignore users thing.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 30 March 2006 15:44 (nineteen years ago)

how hard is it to implement TypeKey style "enter the word in this box" bot-blocker features? because yeah reg-only and/or no anon posts w/o passing humanity verification are going to have to be coming down the pipe this year. I'm glad I'm not a mod these days, put it that way.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 30 March 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

How about instead of "Ignore User" we implement a feature that we can mark certain users as "Place photo of Tynan Delong after every single one of their posts"? That would be a lot funnier.

― Allyzay Rofflesberger (allyzay), Thursday, 30 March 2006 19:07 (nineteen years ago)

Ignore User will probably happen.

Tom, the idea of introducing CAPTCHAs for anonymous posting is probably a good one. There are plenty of freely available libraries for doing this also.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:37 (nineteen years ago)

can we implement an IP geo-tracking filter on ILE, so I can click on an Ignore All UK Originating Messages button?

― Chex Dwarf (sanskrit), Thursday, 30 March 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

No.

― Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 30 March 2006 23:10 (nineteen years ago)

USER CSS

― Houdini Gordonii (ex machina), Friday, 31 March 2006 01:49 (nineteen years ago)

(greasemonkey)

(but yeah, divs and spans styling elements already would make it easier)

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Friday, 31 March 2006 01:52 (nineteen years ago)

Videophones so I can stare at Marissa and Esteban all day. JOY! THE FUTURE OF LOVE

― Forksclovetofu (Forksclovetofu), Friday, 31 March 2006 03:16 (nineteen years ago)

divs and spans styling elements already would make it easier

It will definitely be all CSS-driven.

― Andrew (enneff), Friday, 31 March 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

Ignore User will probably happen.

YESS!

although perhaps the fun really WILL go with it :/

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 31 March 2006 11:59 (nineteen years ago)

i'm really uneasy about the ignore user idea. it radically changes the format of ilx. even if you don't use it, knowing it is in use by others changes everything. i am only (and want to be considered as only) one voice tho.

css i'd go with, cos i think greenspun would do it that way if he started now.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 31 March 2006 12:27 (nineteen years ago)

"knowing it is in use by others changes everything". of course this applies equally to some people using greasemonkey style client-side gubbins. hmm.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Friday, 31 March 2006 13:06 (nineteen years ago)

we already have an ignore user feature called the human brain

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:19 (nineteen years ago)

Is Greenspun the Citizen Kane of ILX?

― Houdini Gordonii (ex machina), Friday, 31 March 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

we already have an ignore user feature called the human brain

That's been broken for years.

― Dan (HAW HAW Sigh) Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 31 March 2006 18:10 (nineteen years ago)

I have an iPod ... in my mind.

― jaymc (jaymc), Friday, 31 March 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

I hope I can get a replacement battery for mine.

I also don't think killfiles are such a good idea, but then again, I'm not in any bitter deathfeuds with anyone.

I don't know why you'd turn off e-mail notification, unless it's a server burden.

― Casuistry (Chris P), Saturday, 1 April 2006 08:55 (nineteen years ago)

I'd really like the layout to remain as simple as possible. Now, I can login, read and post anywhere on a wap/gprs enabled cell phone (as I'm doing now, in fact), and that's a great feature I think other mobile device users would miss if the new css/php/whatever turns out to be too complicated for our simple toys.

― StanM (StanM), Saturday, 1 April 2006 11:58 (nineteen years ago)

There'll definitely be a 'simple mode' that any mobile browser should be able to cope with.

I've heard all the arguments against the 'ignore user' function and frankly I think they're pretty weak. It can only improve things IMO.

― Andrew (enneff), Sunday, 2 April 2006 06:54 (nineteen years ago)

i agree. most people don't actually bother even using them (their curiosity gets the better of 'em)

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Sunday, 2 April 2006 08:05 (nineteen years ago)

(Cut and pasted from the other board)

I don't really see the harm of an edit post feature on largely peaceable boards like ILB but I really wouldn't want it on ILE or ILM. I am largely shameless about using mod priveleges to edit my own typos and html fuckups and so forth but I'm sure some people would abuse it so much. Especially in, ahem, heated discussions.

Also, if everyone was able to rewrite posts they regret/were unhappy with it'd make some threads impossible to follow.

Yes to being able to moderate more than one post at once. A tickbox message deletion feature or something similar would be very useful for getting rid of random spam etc.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Sunday, 2 April 2006 12:26 (nineteen years ago)

sometimes it does seem fair to allow people to delete online "history" because situations can change in unforseeable ways i suppose (i.e. real name IDs were common and things were said in the early days of ilx that would never be said now because we were not so high profile/public and did not know we would be) but of course it's also unreasonable for hundreds of posts to disappear and ruin the context. possibly we could have something where if a logged in user account was deleted their existing posts would remain but would henceforth appear attributed to "anon" user. or something.

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 2 April 2006 16:19 (nineteen years ago)

troll caveat - the same email address used to register original deleted account could not immediately re-register a new one.

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 2 April 2006 16:22 (nineteen years ago)

BUT TABLES AND FRAMES ARE THE FUTURE

― smokemon (eman), Sunday, 2 April 2006 16:43 (nineteen years ago)

"I've heard all the arguments against the 'ignore user' function and frankly I think they're pretty weak"

we don't agree on this. it is a big change in the fundamental format of the board - and it's not something as simple as a personal preference that you can opt in or out of - the fact that other people are using it changes things. i might be in the minority, but even so i think you should consider everyone's view on imposing this on the code (whether you find it weak or not).

i hope i'm not coming over adversarial here, but i'd be suprised if there wasn't more opposition to this if the thread became more widely discussed.

― Britain's Obtusest Shepherd (Alan), Sunday, 2 April 2006 17:47 (nineteen years ago)

If there's an "ignore user" there should also be a "who's ignoring me?" function, or at least some kind of "how many people are ignoring me?" number somewhere. Because I'd want to know why if nobody replied to what I write.

― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:37 (nineteen years ago)

haha yeah let's make it a challenge. god.

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:41 (nineteen years ago)

sorry, just can all too easily imagine the carnage wrought by the existence of an ignore-cock.

― Kim (Kim), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

when i drifted over to these parts a couple of years ago, i missed a killfile terribly.

now i agree with alan: i think it would change something fundamental for the worse.

― grimly fiendish (grimlord), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:47 (nineteen years ago)

It all depends on how this "ignore user" is practically handled.

- will it completely hide all posts by the user in question, so the ignorer doesn't even know there were posts in the first place?
- will it hide, but put a message (ignored post by user X)?
- will it hide, but enable reading after clicking some link (click to show this response)?
- will it force some kind of tree-structure onto the whole board? (if you ignore messages by X, do you also ignore the replies to that message, enforcing a slashdot-structure everywhere - no more "xpost"?)

I don't like any of these options though, because I'm against the whole "ignore user" idea.

― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:51 (nineteen years ago)

("enforcing" -> "requiring")

― StanM (StanM), Sunday, 2 April 2006 18:52 (nineteen years ago)

I don't like the idea either. There have been some big arguments amongst certain posters, but I think for better or worse they're a part of ILX. I don't really know how an "ignore user" would really change things because I've never been a regular in any other message board. But what I like about ILX is that it's quite close to a normal, real-life discussion. Anything that would take it further from that (tree-like threads, editing your messages, ignoring users) would make it worse, in my opinion.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Sunday, 2 April 2006 19:09 (nineteen years ago)

I just realised the ignore user feature is actually quite a good idea. IMPLEMENT IT NOW!!!

― ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!! (ESTEBAN BUTTEZ~!!!), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:20 (nineteen years ago)

Permission added

The user Tuomas now has been ignored on this board.

― smokemon (eman), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:31 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Stan makes some good points. Count me firmly in the NO camp for whether "ignore users" should be done, for the reasons Tuomas said. (haha, xpost)

Perhaps I have a higher tolerance for idiots or dullards. There are a few people who I have little interest in what they say, but that doesn't mean I want to shut them out. One day they might say something wildly interesting, thought-provoking or even just invite me round the world for free beer and I wouldn't read it because I thought they weren't worth reading the rest of the time. In the meantime, I'm with s1ocki on the brain thing.

― ailsa (ailsa), Sunday, 2 April 2006 20:40 (nineteen years ago)

how about a Boss Key, so I can hit cntrl-b when someone walks by at work and a fake Excel chart pops up?

― Chex Dwarf (sanskrit), Monday, 3 April 2006 00:17 (nineteen years ago)

you mean alt+tab?

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Monday, 3 April 2006 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

I would like to see the following:

- IPs visible on every post from every user - even if we still allow people to post unregistered. There is no provacy issue here, and if some smartass insists on proxying their IP then they're still well hidden, but it'll let anyone interested see patterns and be able to ignore idiots.

- edit posts allowed, but possibly with a limit (either time based or edit-amount based), and any time a post is edited, it clearly states the time/date it was edited by the poster. Posts can't be deleted - only edited, and obviously only by the user who made the post. This is something quite common on a lot of other boards, and if someone makes it really obvious they're forever heavily editing their posts, they'll look silly; to me it's a self-check.

I strongly believe everyone should be able to see the IP of all posters.

The ignore function OTOH, I'm neither here nor there about. It won't really work in any case - some of the kind of people we know say they would use it are also the kind of people who will complain/get paranoid the people theyre supposedly ignoring are talking about them, etc etc.

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 3 April 2006 00:22 (nineteen years ago)

(Addendum: actually, you could also allow people to delete posts maybe, but it would leave a "post deleted" with a timestamp and what poster it had been from)

― Trayce (trayce), Monday, 3 April 2006 01:14 (nineteen years ago)

IPs visible on every post from every user - even if we still allow people to post unregistered. There is no provacy issue here, and if some smartass insists on proxying their IP then they're still well hidden, but it'll let anyone interested see patterns and be able to ignore idiots.

I'm guessing that's unworkable BUT how about making the IPs of just the unregistered users visible?

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Monday, 3 April 2006 01:36 (nineteen years ago)

i think there's no reason for anyone but moderators to see IPs.

― bald mommy is sure to fail (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 3 April 2006 02:08 (nineteen years ago)

ips, if they are workplace, can v. much enable creepy cyber-stalking.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 3 April 2006 02:18 (nineteen years ago)

yeah i'm not cool with the IP thing, plus also you would be kissing goodbye the anonymity of any regulars posting logged out.

i also don't like the editing/deleting idea at all. again, this would radically change the way the board works, in my opinion for the worse.

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Monday, 3 April 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

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I don't give a shit. I wouldn't utilize a feature to ignore threads cos I've mostly managed to do that just fine...

-- Allyzay Science Explosion (allyza...), November 10th, 2004.

― Ben Roethlisberger (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

OMG SOMEONE CHANGED HIS/HER MIND ON AN ISSUE

― Dan (STOP TEH PRESSES) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:23 (nineteen years ago)

CF. THE DOZENS OF TIMES YUPPIE MORBS HAS SAID HE'S ONLY POSTING ON ILF FROM NOW ON

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

ps. it's still in the works so we won't have to deal with him much longer

― j blount (papa la bas), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 15:31 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't against getting one, I said I wouldn't have used it. Which was well before you decided to have some kind of obsessive hatred for me (never will understand, since quite regularly you'd bitch me out about things that I actually didn't say cf the War of the Worlds thread where we basically posted the same opinion yet you got pissy and nasty towards me, but actually Dan or Tom or Ned or blount said, but I'm the girl in the group and we all know that can't stand), and come onto threads about MY HONEYMOON and wish me a divorce, not to mention apparently continue bitching about me on a board you chased me off of six months ago.

But please keep doing ILX searches on me and pointing out how much you hate me, that will definitely prove that an ignore function isn't needed to, say, keep people from just leaving this board altogether, Morbius.

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:05 (nineteen years ago)

5...4...3...2...1 til the A) noize board post about how there's some secret ILX mafia or how much girls smell and should stay away from boy topics or some such B) revival of ILF thread about how much ILE sucks and C) huffy post about "never posting to ILE again"

― Allyzay Rofflesbot (allyzay), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:07 (nineteen years ago)

(I miss so much by not having login names on.)

― Dan (But I Like The Mystery) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:21 (nineteen years ago)

NOT RELATED TO ABOVE FITE.

Is there any way we can manage to eke out a search function that can handle 3 letter words?

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:23 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think there are that many threads with the phrase "ass tap" in them.

― Dan (Helpful) Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:26 (nineteen years ago)

YOU ONLY THINK THAT DUE TO YOUR FAILING SEARCH FUNCTION.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:32 (nineteen years ago)

search is really hard to do efficiently with three letter words. i don't know what search algorithm ilxor uses but i would guess it's boyer-moore, which isn't very efficient with such a short string. anyone up for designing something faster?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boyer-Moore_string_search_algorithm

― lf (lfam), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 16:58 (nineteen years ago)

I AM GUESSING IT USES "WHATEVER MYSQL USES"

― JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 17:45 (nineteen years ago)

I do not hate you or your husband obsessively or any other way, Ally. Ignoring posts by choice just seems eminently sensible.

― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:11 (nineteen years ago)

YEAH THAT SOUNDS REASONABLE

― lf (lfam), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:20 (nineteen years ago)

Is there any reason why the DELETION of permissions isn't logged the same way the ADDITION of permissions are?

― JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Other than so Canadians can fuck with me?

― JW (ex machina), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:39 (nineteen years ago)

Alan is part of the Canadian Hostile Javascript Conspiracy now?

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 11 May 2006 00:19 (nineteen years ago)

it's just sexier when you leave something to the imagination.

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 11 May 2006 00:58 (nineteen years ago)

http://gratyn.perso.cegetel.net/blog/extensions/emoticons/trillian/suce.gif

― Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Thursday, 11 May 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

so is there a point to this? do you have any demands? or is it just boring ol' eye for an eye?

― Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Thursday, 11 May 2006 11:49 (nineteen years ago)

[pissing contest, very clever]

― Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Thursday, 11 May 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

I just want better admin logging. NB with bad admin logging → can't make people admins → might as well just post on ile

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

Wait I thought an ILX mod was locking the board, not JW.

― Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

ha I remember now: [UNBAN AND I LOCK ENTIRE BOARD]. carry on then..

― Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Thursday, 11 May 2006 13:55 (nineteen years ago)

A handy feature to code into the new ILX would be to make all threads on the mod req board get pointless random personal bitching between JW+posse and Noodles+posse automatically input 48 hours after question posting.

― TOMBOT (TOMBOT), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:28 (nineteen years ago)

National Security Agency, with headquarters at Fort Meade just outside Washington, DC, has a global staff of 38,000 and a budget estimated at more than US$3.6-billion. The UK equivalent organisation is the Government Communications Headquarters GCHQ based near Cheltenham. Further, smaller organisations exist to provide communications technology and expertise (e.g. Her Majesty's Government Communication Centre HMGCC).

By comparison, Canada's communications-intelligence operations are conducted by the Communications Security Establishment (CSE), a branch of the Canadian Department of National Defence. It has a staff of 890 people and an annual budget of $110-million (Cdn). The CSE's headquarters is the Sir Leonard Tilley Building on Heron Road in the nation's capital of Ottawa, Ontario, and its main communications intercept site is located on an old armed-forces radio base in Leitrim, just south of Ottawa.

― JW (Oh, Canuks) (ex machina), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

Leonard Tilley was an OG.

― Rufus 3000 (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:17 (nineteen years ago)

Sigh.

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 11 May 2006 18:31 (nineteen years ago)

All I want to know is who is unbanning jaymc

― JW (ex machina), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

http://gratyn.perso.cegetel.net/blog/extensions/emoticons/trillian/suce.gif

(That's not a pissing contest, toothpicker.)

― Pleasant Plains /// (Pleasant Plains ///), Thursday, 11 May 2006 20:50 (nineteen years ago)

(Those images got deleted, Plains.)

― Unlimited Toothpicker (eman), Friday, 12 May 2006 00:09 (nineteen years ago)

It's like moving out of the city into the suburbs where everything is safe. Good job.

Prediction: dwindling returns on your efforts.

― ILX to go down shitter, Tuesday, 16 May 2006 19:31 (nineteen years ago)

^^ nude spock

― teeny (teeny), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 10:10 (nineteen years ago)

^^ paul revere

― k thx bye, Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e33/rolocoaster/revere.gif

― j blount, ,,, , teeny, etc., Wednesday, 17 May 2006 23:03 (nineteen years ago)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e33/rolocoaster/crazy-preacherman.jpg

― Wait I got another one, Thursday, 18 May 2006 00:29 (eighteen years ago)

http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e33/rolocoaster/tattletale.jpg

― Might be my last chance for fun!, Thursday, 18 May 2006 01:43 (eighteen years ago)

take it like a man

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Thursday, 18 May 2006 02:12 (eighteen years ago)

That's how a man takes it right there. See above.

― A doy?, Thursday, 18 May 2006 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

Hahah teeny I heart you ;D

― Trayce (trayce), Friday, 19 May 2006 00:19 (eighteen years ago)

haha, it's so funny to actually look at an ip and then post it ;D
Brilliant! Let's give more credit than it's worth just to show that mean old Nude Spock!!!

― Ya dumb fucking retarded obvious idiot, Friday, 19 May 2006 00:56 (eighteen years ago)

bokko!

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Friday, 19 May 2006 01:45 (eighteen years ago)

oh boy, urban dictionary tells me you called me a Swedish penis. I'd insult you back, but somehow "bokko" just isn't provoking me enough.

― magnetic taste of tim (and what for), Friday, 19 May 2006 08:28 (eighteen years ago)

hmm, i was just quoting the young ones, but hey your version isn't any worse than mine

― electric sound of jim (and why not) (electricsound), Friday, 19 May 2006 09:31 (eighteen years ago)

haha

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Friday, 19 May 2006 14:06 (eighteen years ago)

hehe

― NelSon, Friday, 19 May 2006 14:53 (eighteen years ago)

two months pass...

xkoegj rkajgn fsmd kibq yhgdpk gjqzenu upwcls

― txofwrgb grvk, Friday, 21 July 2006 05:49 (eighteen years ago)

he's got a point

― Lmaoborghini (eman), Friday, 21 July 2006 11:35 (eighteen years ago)

I read the last two words of that as "given up vowels".

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:06 (eighteen years ago)

this thread is ilx's chinese democracy

― Lmaoborghini (eman), Friday, 21 July 2006 13:25 (eighteen years ago)

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