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So apparently all the old-skool posts are attributed to "UserName (LoginName)"?

So my LoginName is my real name, which I stopped using as my UserName to be less googleable, because previously on ILX only people logged in could see the LoginName, and I didn't really care if people who were logged in knew my name.

So is the "(LoginName)" part still only visible to people who are logged in? Or have a bunch of ILXors suddenly been made waaaaaay more googleable despite going to measures to avoid it?

― Casuistry, Friday, 23 February 2007 04:50 (eighteen years ago)

That was short-sighted of me. I didn't realise anyone would have used a real name as their login. I'll ask folks to put any/all relevant names on a thread, then run through the db googleproofing them.

― .stet., Friday, 23 February 2007 05:03 (eighteen years ago)

Yay! Thanks. I do appreciate that there are always a million little details...

― Casuistry, Friday, 23 February 2007 05:37 (eighteen years ago)

speaking of, what about the general de-indexing of threads? I don't know anything about how this stuff works, but there's one thread that pops up when you google me that for various uninteresting reasons I'd prefer not to. Is that still possible?

― dan selzer, Monday, 26 February 2007 22:31 (eighteen years ago)

I thought I'd posted this elsewhere, but I can't find it. When cutting and pasting stuff over from the sandbox, full email addresses appear. Due to conversations being started over there that people want to continue over here, I can see this being a short-term problem. Is there a solution to this, like how email addresses get ripped out in old-ILX, or do we just need to keep asking to get our email addresses deleted?

― ailsa, Monday, 26 February 2007 23:30 (eighteen years ago)

PUT ME ON THIS LIST

― Enrique (has quit), Tuesday, 27 February 2007 16:29 (eighteen years ago)

Uh, so I want to put some urgency behind this, although by now it's probably well ensconced in Google.

If thread de-indexings didn't carry over, then... I mean, I want to encourage the devs to think a little more about the massive privacy issues involved in a board like ILX.

Privacy breaches such as these are serious enough that shutting down the site for a day or two to fix them would not be unreasonable, I think.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:11 (eighteen years ago)

Google indexes us pretty quickly, which is both a blessing and a curse -- but it means that deindexing takes effect quite fast, as do changes. Because the changes happen so quickly, I'm not convinced the board needs to come down until they're hidden.

I haven't had the time to do the name thing yet, and it will mean taking the board down to do it. I'll see if I can get the time tonight and look in to the deindex flag.

Something to hide emails is in the works, Ailsa.

― .stet., Tuesday, 27 February 2007 18:28 (eighteen years ago)

can you put me on this list plz?

― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:02 (eighteen years ago)

If you want on the list, folks, send me an email with the exact text you want google-proofed.

― .stet., Tuesday, 27 February 2007 21:04 (eighteen years ago)

Stet, some stuff that went over from the Sandbox into old-ILX with my email address seemed to bypass the email stripper as well, even when everyone else's emails went. A google search for my first name and last name has started bringing up ILX results which it never used to.

Offending threads are http://www.ilxor.com:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=51871 and http://www.ilxor.com:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=51932, if they could be wiped please?

― ailsa, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:37 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, aye, and obviously whatever magic thingmejig makes hyperlinks all hyperlinky would be cool.

(and just my email address, obv, not the whole threads for wiping)

― ailsa, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:40 (eighteen years ago)

I don't understand all the responses, I'm talking about de-indexing a thread, which used to be done on the old board. I'm not looking to googleproof a specific name or anything.

― dan selzer, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 22:55 (eighteen years ago)

I think this just turned into a general "things we don't want cropping up on google searches" thread, maybe if you link to the thread you want deindexed, it might get done too? (I don't know though, not being a mod)

― ailsa, Tuesday, 27 February 2007 23:26 (eighteen years ago)

I would like this thread:

http://ilx.wh3rd.net:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=41&threadid=56383

de-indexed. It's a good discussion but for various reasons I don't want it being the first 5 things that pop up when you google me.

― dan selzer, Wednesday, 28 February 2007 01:33 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

It has been nearly a month now. Now, probably both Google and Archive.org have been able to grab private data. (Certainly searching for my name comes up with a lot more than it used to.) I am rather disappointed that this wasn't taken care of more quickly or treated with more seriousness.

― Casuistry, Thursday, 22 March 2007 18:46 (eighteen years ago)

Aye, I'm also considerably more googleable - only my first name was available to google before my email address started cropping up all over the place.

― ailsa, Thursday, 22 March 2007 19:58 (eighteen years ago)

That was short-sighted of me

perhaps this should be the motto for nu ilx

To exclude the Internet Archive’s crawler (and remove documents from the Wayback Machine) while allowing all other robots to crawl your site, your robots.txt file should say:

User-agent: ia_archiver
Disallow: /

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Thursday, 22 March 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

hey I noticed you googleproofed! thx guys

― Curt1s Stephens, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 04:49 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.ilxor.com:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=51871 and http://www.ilxor.com:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=51932 still have everyone's email addresses wiped except mine. Please can you sort this out - I do not want my first name next to my last name in teh lands of googleability. Cheers.

― ailsa, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 07:17 (eighteen years ago)

I did the second one, it looks like someone else did the first?

― Pashmina, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 09:00 (eighteen years ago)

Thank you!

― ailsa, Tuesday, 3 April 2007 21:20 (eighteen years ago)

Right, I know I've asked plenty of times about the Life on Mars thread, but rotten search function means I can't find it.

There's a whole bunch of email addresses pasted over from Sandbox and not obscured. The thread where we discussed it before, someone (teeny I think) said that if someone copied the post, manually removed the email addresses and forwarded it on, then they would put the edited post back in.

Now, I'm a lazy git and couldn't be bothered. But now that we have the technology to obscure email addresses, I was wondering if it would work if a kindly mod took the relevant parts of that post out and put it back in, letting the email addresses get zapped? If not, can you let me know and I'll do the donkey work on the editing.

http://ilx.wh3rd.net:8080/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?action=showall&boardid=40&threadid=46821

I hope this makes sense.

― ailsa, Saturday, 7 April 2007 10:56 (eighteen years ago)

Ailsa, what's the issue with the search? I found it immediately by typing in "life on mars"!

I hope you are using the direct search. I have switched that and Google around for the next release. Direct Search.

― Keith, Saturday, 7 April 2007 13:27 (eighteen years ago)

It wasn't the Life on Mars thread itself I couldn't find, it was the discussion I had with someone before about googleproofing it. Anyway, cheers, whoever zapped the email addresses.

― ailsa, Sunday, 8 April 2007 10:27 (eighteen years ago)

I sorted it. Didn't know if others would know how it worked.

― Keith, Sunday, 8 April 2007 11:12 (eighteen years ago)

three weeks pass...

So I'm now googled in the threads proper, but not on the New Answers page?

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/NewAnswersControllerServlet?boardid=66 (for instance)

Of course the system still seems to publish private information unless you opt out, which is totally fucked up, but clearly no one in charge agrees with this, so oh well.

― Casuistry, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 19:57 (eighteen years ago)

You make a lot of fuss about this considering there are two years of posts where you used your full name as the public name, so oh well.

― Charlie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:19 (eighteen years ago)

http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=14381
http://www.ilxor.com/ILX/ThreadSelectedControllerServlet?boardid=40&threadid=21573

― Charlie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 20:22 (eighteen years ago)

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― lfam, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 21:44 (eighteen years ago)

To be fair, Casuitry is perfectly entitled to make a fuss about this because it was the understanding all along that login names wouldn't be displayed. Presumably he changed his display name for a reason and presumably that altered what he felt he was able to say his posts without fear of being Googled.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 3 May 2007 08:29 (eighteen years ago)

Yeh, but there's a difference between someone who has kept his name secret forever, and someone who lashed it freely about the shop. On the old site, anyone who logged in could see and search login names. So if someone stalked him here via his old posts, all they'd have to do is log in and search for his login name and they'd get all the causistry ones as well!

That said, I did a ton of googleproofing during the last update; I just overlooked his on the new answers, and I'll fix it next time, but it makes no functional difference to a stalker whatsoever.

― stet, Thursday, 3 May 2007 16:21 (eighteen years ago)

a) I'm worried about my privacy somewhat; and I'm much more worried about people googling my name and connecting it to my screen name than I'm worried about someone who has figured that out and wants to stalk me; and also had I known that login names would have been made public someday, I would have gotten a new login name when I decided to go semi-private (duh)!

And I realize that it's not exactly going to make me ungoogleable, but still I want that fence to be as high as possible to deter people; I'm more worried about employers googling me here than stalkers.

b) I'm way more concerned that this is a violation of privacy for people who used to post on ILX but no longer do. People who can't (or won't, and at any rate shouldn't have to!) complain on here.

I'm particularly sensitive to this sort of thing since I used to work for a group that advocated for privacy rights, but whatever: It's just the Right Thing To Do. And accidents happen, and this is the sort of thing that people who are used to seeing the login names (and considering them to be an integral part of how to "read" ILX) would make a reasonable mistake about. Still, it's a violation of privacy, and a board-wide solution should be implemented ASAP, and not one that requires people to "opt out" of having their information posted.

― Casuistry, Saturday, 5 May 2007 00:39 (eighteen years ago)

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