in all seriousness, ban geir
Attributing intent to trolls is a very difficult issue since by its very nature to call someone a troll is to already assume an intent, that they are posting only to cause problems. So once a person is called a troll they have already been categorized by the speaker as someone with a certain intention.
Many people call others trolls, few call themselves trolls, so a troll is not a self-constructed identity but rather is a category constructed via the speech act of calling someone a troll. Perhaps the more interesting question is the motivation for labeling others as trolls. Individuals so labeled find it offensive. Useful advice for dealing with someone considered to be a troll is, rather than using that term, to ask them questions such as: "What is your intent?" or other questions relevant to the discussion rather than using the ad hominem label "troll."
Trolls can be existing members of a community that rarely post and often contribute no useful information to the thread, but instead make argumentative posts in an attempt to discredit another person, concentrating almost exclusively on facts irrelevant to the point of the conversation, with the intent of provoking a reaction from others. The key element under attack by a troll is known only to the troll.
A person who retaliates (using whatever means) as a result of a misunderstanding (or as a way of rebelling against the overzealous application of rules) is not a troll.[7] A troll is a person who approaches a board with the specific intention of stirring things up, either as a goal in and of itself or as a means of attacking the board perhaps motivated by opposition to the ethos of the board. For example, a neo-Nazi approaching a Jewish forum with the intention of attacking the members, purely because the neo-Nazi knows the forum to contain Jewish members, will be considered a troll.
The general element, that determines whether a malicious user is a troll or not, is the level of indignant emotions present in the person, coupled with the person's history with the forum or group. An indignant user who has had a previous normal relationship with the group is not a troll, even if the user uses methods of attack that are characteristic of a troll attack.
A troll's main goal is usually to arouse anger and frustration among the message board's other participants, and will write whatever it takes to achieve this end. One popular trolling strategy is the practice of Winning by Losing. While the victim is trying to put forward solid and convincing facts to prove his position, the troll's only goal is to infuriate its prey. The troll takes (what it knows to be) a badly flawed, wholly illogical argument, and then vigorously defends it while mocking and insulting its prey. The troll looks like a complete fool, but this is all part of the plan. The victim becomes noticeably angry by trying to repeatedly explain the flaws of the troll's argument. Provoking this anger was the troll's one and only goal from the very beginning.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:56 (eighteen years ago)
I know a bot
Her name is Anna. Anna is her name.
And she can ban, ban you so hard
She rules in our channel
I will tell you that I know a bot.
-- Geir Hongro, Monday, 24 September 2007 19:22 (1 hour ago) Link
― DJ Mencap, Monday, 24 September 2007 20:48 (eighteen years ago)
[Verse One:]
Now im'a tell it like this girlfriend,
He don't love you.
Never have I seen him kiss or hug you,
He don't make effort,
He don't respect you,
Or accept you, for you.
Tells you what to wear and how to behave,
Comes in your home and treats you like his slave,
Don't need him if he make you sacrafice your freedom,
Get him out your life.
Shout and curse at you in public places,
Sleep in your house on a part time basis,
He aint even taking care of his child,
He don't make you smile.
[Pre chorus - Version One]
I understand you love him and your down,
But that don't mean you got to be his clown.
[Chorus:]
Girl, you got to put him out,
Change them locks and all that.
Girl, you got to put him out,
And this time don't take him back.
Girl, you got to put him out,
Take the time to love yourself.
Girl, you got to put him out,
You can find real love with someone else.
[Verse Two:]
He don't even know how to be honest,
All he know how to do is falso promise.
Any real man agree he ain't a man after the first time that he raised his hand.
Treat your home like hotel,
Don't pay his way,
Lost count of the times that that dog has strayed.
Sleep around,
Creep around,
Bring back disease,
What if next time it was HIV.
Four baby mummas, Eight kids and no work,
You can play strong but I know that it hurt,
You make the choices,
You gotta stop this,
Coz girlfriend,
The boy's worthless.
[Pre Chorus - version two:]
I understand that y'all love birds from school,
How did you get from being his girl to just bein his fool?
[Chorus x2]
[Verse Three:]
Ur little girl needs a daddy,
I agree,
But the fool is far from that.
Any boy can be a father,
That ain't reason enough to keep on takin' him back.
He never reads wit' her or takes her out,
That shits called neglect you hear.
Sure she confused and tired of always seeing mummas face bruised and drowing in tears.
Look what you showin' her by lettin' him disrespect you,
You just growin' her to think that it's something that all men do.
You owe it to yourself and your daughter cos she thinks it's all alright,
When she get older,
Follow the footsteps you showed her,
How you gunna look her in the eye?
[Chorus x2]
― Dom Passantino, Thursday, 27 September 2007 22:34 (eighteen years ago)
Any further spurious ban threads, you might as well start them off in the idiot thread repository, because that's where they'll be going.
Any serious "ban this complete fucktard" threads, PLEASE provide links to examples of ban-worthy behaviour. Thx.
― Pashmina, Friday, 28 September 2007 14:34 (eighteen years ago)