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Is there a way for linked pictures to have a maximum size?

I know very large images would still take a long time to load, but at least you'd have the option to wait for them or press 'stop loading'...

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 13:33 (twenty-one years ago)

I finally turned images off today, and you know what? It did actually make ILX a far more pleasant experience.

My New Identity (kate), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Speaking for myself, if Jon keeps his image-posting mania over on the board he's created for his bemusement and that of others, then frankly I don't have a problem with it.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 13:38 (twenty-one years ago)

(This said, there is no point for *either* side to engage in the hoohah on the one thread on ILE right now.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I actually regret being rude to Dan on that thread. But, you know, I was rude in response to his rudeness to me. I've just decided to respond to people exactly the way that they treat me.

My New Identity (kate), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

That worked well with the arms race.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 13:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, it wasn't just about that.

Odd times, people post pics that were a reasonable size on the source page, but they are actually HUGE! so, what about limiting them to the width of a standard page?

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 13:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I mean, sorry for the glib answer, Kate, but you've spent so much of the last day escalating things that could have been solved very easily and continuing to poke at things that would just go away if you'd stop poking at them that you're starting to piss some of us off despite our generally positive feelings towards you otherwise.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 13:57 (twenty-one years ago)

it's too tricky. you have to tell the browser a width in the HTML, but obv you can't do that with EVERY image, so the ILX server would have to check on the fly for you. it's pretty overworked as it is, but downloading and checking the width of every cocking pointless pic that people post is not going to go down too well. even if we held a cache of size somewhere, can we really be bothered.

just let ppl be arses. the odd pic can be edited/modded to have a width attribute in the img tag if needed.

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

OK, wondered if it was easy. Regards.

mark grout (mark grout), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I wanted to know what it was like to be a total ass on ILX. I wanted to know what the heck drives people. And now I know. On some weird, childish, compulsion level, it is *FUN*.

I mean, that's the continuing message on ILX, isn't it? Certain persons seem to be able to continue to do whatever they like, and there's ulimately very little that anyone can do to stop them.

So, you know, ultimately, if it's OK for *them* continue acting like pricks, then it must be OK for *me* to act the same way.

Everyone has a limit. Maybe I've finally reached mine.

My New Identity (kate), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

If you set the width of an image in the HTML to be at a maximum size, it doesn't change the fact that it is a focking megabyte

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That said, when you insert an image using the "ihttp" method, perhaps it could come back (in the vein of the html checker) and say "it appears this image is over 700kb" or "one dimension of this image image is greater than 1024 pixels". Of course, this would limit fun on the noise board, so maybe this should be an option for board admins?

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Odd times, people post pics that were a reasonable size on the source page, but they are actually HUGE! so, what about limiting them to the width of a standard page?

Yeah, mark, the image posting thing is a little can of worms all its own just like any embedded HTML.

Sometimes the source page is using the width and height attributes to constrain an otherwise huge image. When the image gets linked to ILX, the poster usually doesn't keep those same attributes, so the real size of the image is revealed as huge. (If you want to doublecheck for this before it happens to you, you can take the URL of the image and just put it directly into the browser to take a look before you post it. You'll be able to see if the image is really big if you view it outside of the context of the source page.)

Alan already said it, but basically having the server check image width could get kinda intensive. Not to mention that if the server wants to do it gracefully, it'd also have to calculate values to resize on the fly without changing the aspect ratio of the original pic and stretching or crunching it.

If there is a good solution along these lines, Jon's idea is probably the closest. Though to have the server give warnings for large images would still require it to take a look at every image and analyze it.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 15:27 (twenty-one years ago)


to have the server give warnings for large images would still require it to take a look at every image and analyze it.

when you do "ihttp" it already does this.

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Ah. I stand corrected Jon.

I never use "ihttp." I'm just used to img tags cause it's what I do all day long. Of course I also use height and width to keep the images from being huge when necessary, and I'll even host images on my own site so I can edit them when I need to, so I guess I'm not the average image-posting user.

martin m. (mushrush), Wednesday, 30 June 2004 15:36 (twenty-one years ago)

ihttp is really nice, but sometimes it can be SLOW.

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ihttp now checks image sizes, and posts links instead of img tags when greater than a certain size. (currently 800x600)

(try going to the test board and posting ihttp links to either this or this.)

The obvious next step here is to deny hand-crafted 'img' tags, which I will do after a bit more testing.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 1 July 2004 01:16 (twenty-one years ago)

ps: jon, is your AIM still 'wizardishungry'?

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 1 July 2004 01:18 (twenty-one years ago)

ps: there won't be any per-board settings until I get around to cleaning up Graham's nightmarish spaghetti-code. Granted, it does the job and does it well, but it's pretty-much unmaintainable.

Andrew (enneff), Thursday, 1 July 2004 01:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Good job Andrew

Gribowitz (Lynskey), Thursday, 1 July 2004 02:01 (twenty-one years ago)

yes

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