Make ILE reigstered users only

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Martin - you have final say on this, and I say please do it. It's the only way to stop the spraying of grafitti annoyance we're getting these days. I don't think ILE is the place for that sort of crap. As soon as it becomes registered users only we can stamp out such rude and pointless behviour.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

I kiss you!

― I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:47 (twenty-one years ago)

why do we have to do this? i think its a shame, this randy business would have stopped ages ago, if people didnt get so upset by it all. i think ile is just fine at the moment

― haertcore l''' (gareth), Thursday, 22 July 2004 14:49 (twenty-one years ago)

well that's fine by me too. gareth for ILE mod I say.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:17 (twenty-one years ago)

but (nearly) all the various pleas for deletion would fall on deaf ears!

― haertcore l''' (gareth), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:23 (twenty-one years ago)

wouldn't persistent trolls just keep re-registering?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Solution:

1 login per unique email address
and add a delay to when the email registration is sent.

― I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Thursday, 22 July 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Alt Solution:
Jon goes to his own board for a little while.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

(I don't think I've been inflamatory lately)

― gwilx (ex machina), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Would it be fair to call this the "old-ILX European Faggot Insurgency"?

-- I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (?????...), July 22nd, 2004.

― fgfgfg, Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think you've been THAT inflamatory either. But someone or two thinks you are. If you can give us sometime to handle things rather then incite more it would be a help.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:28 (twenty-one years ago)

inciting = posting about adorable animal hijinks, butt implants, Wolf Eyes

ok, I'll step back a bit.

― gwilx (ex machina), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

And keeping 6 seperate threads alive on this board.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

If you're gonna do it make sure its ILE ONLY please!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

I AM QUILTING ILX

― gwilx (ex machina), Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:34 (twenty-one years ago)

LETS PUT JON IN AN INTERNMENT CAMP

― dean? (deangulberry), Thursday, 22 July 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

GET OF TEH IRNET BY LES TIGERE YUO SHUDL LITSEN TO ITE

― Amazing Randy (Amazing Randy), Thursday, 22 July 2004 19:29 (twenty-one years ago)

I have final say? How come? Anyway, I have come around to favouring making ILE registered users only, as long as registration is easy (and automatic for existing accounts), which I know your setup will be.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Thursday, 22 July 2004 20:15 (twenty-one years ago)

postign on a board where i am at a moderators mercy = a bit rubbish no? also how coem a few weeks of jon and randy show managd what years of calum failed to achieve?

― :|, Friday, 23 July 2004 00:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Solution for getting irritated with ILX: take every other day off ILX. You will find yourself calmer.

I think that mandatory registration is a good idea for ILX at this point in its lifespan. As is yellow-carding. That's just my $.02, I've explained the reasons often enough in the past.

― Ma$onic Boom (kate), Friday, 23 July 2004 06:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Martin - you are the only remaining active ILE mod! As a developer and site admin I want to stay clear of moderation if I can. I have done a few things here and there, but relatively minor edits (and would rather not anyway), whereas locking a board to registered users is a big step that only board-specific admins should be doing.

it's not a big deal i suppose in that it is easy to UNDO and switch on and off whenever. but it's something users should be made aware of before it's done.

anyway, you should know how to do it by now. click that "Administer board" link, and it's at the top of the page there under "Permissions".

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 23 July 2004 08:56 (twenty-one years ago)

For what it's worth, if we made ILE registered-users only (to post anyhow), and we had a good system in place for making sure people couldn't just easily re-register over and over again, I'd be much more inclined to continue to moderate ILE regularly. (I'm still active, but am keeping a looowwww profile right now.)

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Friday, 23 July 2004 11:26 (twenty-one years ago)

we have a pretty good system in place. newly registered accounts have to be valid e-mail addresses (the password is mailed to the account), and the address must also be unique to the user database, so it can't be used for more than one account.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 23 July 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

So are we ready to do this? I'd like more than me to speak in favour -Andrew, how do you feel about it? And if we are to go ahead with it, I think we should warn people in advance about it, to give those who haven't registered the chance to do so before it becomes mandatory - maybe 48 hours notice, something like that (not over a weekend)?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 24 July 2004 08:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I only mod ILM but I'm in favor of it for ILE (and should it all work as planned, might want to do the same thing for ILM).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 24 July 2004 11:27 (twenty-one years ago)

just floating ideas out...it seems that when ilx works, it works pretty well, but when it's disrupted, it all goes to hell. Perhaps there could be two modes: a free mode (ilx as we know it) and a lockdown mode (only registered people can post, and no new registrants are accepted [also troll would be unregistered by mod of course]). We go into lockdown when someone comes in just to be an idiot. Lockdown mode would suck for known ilxors who aren't registered (although they could still lurk), but it would frustrate troublemakers. I don't think it would do much one way or the other for random googlers, as they usually just pop in for a bit anyway.

-- teeny (teen...), April 12th, 2004.

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 24 July 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

dan mentioned that this might be untenable though, but I wanted to mention it again.

― teeny (teeny), Saturday, 24 July 2004 15:52 (twenty-one years ago)

It's a thought - Alan/Andrew/Noodles, how easy would it be to turn off registration at short notice, if needed? I kind of think the interception of new registration attempts from a given IP (range) might achieve the same goal, though.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 24 July 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

i'M GOING TO RECOMMENCE TROLLING YOUR SHITTY BOARD TOMORROW. I THINK HSTENCIL AND JON WILLIAMS AND ALL THE "CRAZY" NOISE DUDES ARE FUCKING GEEKY DICKS WHO THINK ITS HILARIOUS TO MOCK THE WAY ASIANS SPEAK AND USE WORDS LIKE "FAGGOT" BECAUSE, Y'KNOW, WE DON'T ACTUALLY MEAN ANY OFFENCE TO GAYS, "FAGGOT" IS JUST SOMETHING BAD. I HOPE YOU MAKE YR SHIT BOARD REGISTRATION ONLY AND I HOPE HSTENCIL AND HIS RACIST/HOMOPHOBIC CLUB HOUSE GO ON AND PROSPER TO BECOME EVEN BIGGER PRICKS.

RANDY.

― Amazing Randy (Amazing Randy), Sunday, 25 July 2004 12:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Did I miss where Stence supposedly became a member of the KKK?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 25 July 2004 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I don't think those two have ever gotten along.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Sunday, 25 July 2004 13:28 (twenty-one years ago)

So how close are we to making this registration possible? It's looking more useful all the time.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Sunday, 25 July 2004 19:44 (twenty-one years ago)

not very amazing.

― hstencil (hstencil), Monday, 26 July 2004 03:40 (twenty-one years ago)

So how close are we to making this registration possible? It's looking more useful all the time.

it's been possible since we came back - it was the main recoding done in the gap (I don't think that's being unfair to Zac/Andrew is it?)

if you want to do it Martin, check out the administer board page. look under permissions. I hope it's self-explanatory (under permissions at the top of the page). If you don't know what to do from there - e-mail me.

― Jaunty Alan (Alan), Monday, 26 July 2004 09:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow. Is it me or did Randy suddenly forget to spell more than 50% of the words in his post incorrectly during that last outburst?

― martin m. (mushrush), Monday, 26 July 2004 15:39 (twenty-one years ago)

BECAUSE RANDY IS KEN C

― George W. ILX (ex machina), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:05 (twenty-one years ago)

If Randy starts up again or anything else does that seems to require banning someone, I'm inclined to:
1. Announce we are switching ILE to registered users only in 48 hours, on ILE. I assume this will require no action on the part of those already registered? And how will anyone else register? Would the option appear if I were not registered and logged in?
2. Switch it over at the time I warned about.
3. Lock out the offending user(s).

Any opinions on this plan?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 26 July 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

My opinion is that the switchover should happen without notification.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:50 (twenty-one years ago)

Why?

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:13 (twenty-one years ago)

Mostly because if the idea is to shut off the bad behavior right away, I think you should shut off the bad behavior right away; you're basically giving the troll a 48 grace period to be as obnoxious as he/she can be.

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:31 (twenty-one years ago)

A good point from Dan, I think. The only thing he got wrong = "the troll", not "the trolls".

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:47 (twenty-one years ago)

It is just Ken C and KAte

― Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Monday, 26 July 2004 18:54 (twenty-one years ago)

That is a pretty good point, Dan - I just wanted to give the regulars some notice. Maybe the notice should come now, with the warning that this will be imposed as soon as there is bad behaviour we want to get rid of; then we can do it immediately we want to ban someone. I'll start a thread.

Jon, if you have evidence to back this up, I'd genuinely like to hear it. I have no knowledge of whether you might be right or not. They're both friends of mine (I play tennis with Ken regularly!) but if we do know who it is, I will hold it against them when wearing my moderator hat, though not in person.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

(I'm just speculating, but I have a few sneaky ideas. I should shut my mouth now.)

― Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Monday, 26 July 2004 20:39 (twenty-one years ago)

I have made that announcement.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Monday, 26 July 2004 21:03 (twenty-one years ago)

U HAVENT GOT A FUKCING CLUE JON HAHAHA UR A JOKE MATE

― Amazing Randy (Amazing Randy), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 10:17 (twenty-one years ago)

Randy/Jakc has started to post on ILE again, so maybe the ILE lockdown and his banning should take place as soon as possible.

― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 10:47 (twenty-one years ago)

No one is answering this question on the ILE thread (probably due to being lost in all the noise), and I think it's important:
Has a formal method/policy for requesting the banning of an ILXor been drafted? Or is it just by moderator's discretion?

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Martin answered on ILE thread. Nevermind.

― St. Nicholas (Nick A.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 16:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I've been ignoring these allegations, because I want to rise above, and not get involved in this childish stuff. I don't want to get caught up in anyone's paranoia.

However, I would like to say this to Martin, as I have a lot of respect for him, and hope that he maintains his respect for me.

I can honestly state that I have nothing to do with "Randy". Although, yes, I may agree with his/her/their premise, I think their methodology is fundamentally flawed, and it's not the path that I would/have chosen.

I only post to ILX from work. I am on a network, I have a static IP address which I would imagine is quite easily tracked.

I do not have internet access in my home. In order to log on to ILX anonymously, I would have to go to an internet cafe. I'm a tightwad who has trouble coughing up the cash for a round of beers. Do you *really* think that I would pay *money* to be annoyed by someone I'm doing my best to avoid?

I hope that clears the matter up, for Martin at least. Thanks.

― Super-Masonic Black Hole (kate), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 07:47 (twenty-one years ago)

okay, that's a nice to know... "Randy".

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 08:26 (twenty-one years ago)

"randy" is very obviously not kate.

― Pashmina (Pashmina), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Didn't Kate have her 'not very pleasant' anti-Jon-W-fake-identity moment in the sun just before the shutdown? If so, I think it's very unlikely she'd do it again. Particularly since she got a lot of grief for it, at an awkward time in her life...

Although I have no proof, the most likely scenario seems to me that JAKC is Jon dicking around because he thinks Ken is Randy - Randy is a Jon stalker and JAKC is a Ken stalker. So it's his idea of 'revenge'. Apologies if I'm wrong here Jon.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 10:07 (twenty-one years ago)

It's probably best to keep all of this speculation to a minimum, actually. From what we can tell, that's not the case, aldo. These guesses may just aggravate people further.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

"may"

― VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 11:09 (twenty-one years ago)

Fair enough, if a Mod wants to delete my post then he can, if he feels it'll make things worse.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 28 July 2004 11:10 (twenty-one years ago)

I only mod ILM but I'm in favor of it for ILE (and should it all work as planned, might want to do the same thing for ILM).
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), July 24th, 2004. (later)

but with discussion among ilm posters and a vote first right?

I mean, seriously, ilm has been fine (haha and everyone thought ilm was more hostile), there is NO FUCKING NEED FOR THIS!!!

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 29 July 2004 08:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Everything ever posted there has been utterly fantastic, it's insightful and great.

Don't ever change it.

― Leon Czolgosz (Nicole), Thursday, 29 July 2004 11:49 (twenty-one years ago)

thanks for the insightfulness, greatness and fantatic-ness of yr post.

I never expected anything less than that from you.

keep it up.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Thursday, 29 July 2004 14:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't come back Kate!

― Whiskeytown Littlecock (ex machina), Friday, 30 July 2004 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm with Jon, since that would require her leaving in the first place.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 30 July 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

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ON TOPIC

― Bunzzzzz O)))))))))))))))))) (ex machina), Friday, 30 July 2004 19:07 (twenty-one years ago)

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