Using someone else's real e-mail address

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Someone who I am pretty sure is not Sara Sherr (on the noise board and now on ILM) is using Sara Sherr's e-mail address. I think that's crossing a line, no?

So what's your favourite noise/psych/mania release of recent times? (like in the last, ooh ten years y'know)

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 20 June 2005 23:19 (twenty years ago)

Is that sara using jon's login? I noticed this on ILE too.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 20 June 2005 23:43 (twenty years ago)

this is something that the user can toggle in settings:

Allow messages to be posted with my name or email address without my password:
No - Select if you have no problems logging in to ilXor.com.
(If you ever need to post from a computer that doesn't store cookies, you will have the option to temporarily disable the password prompt then).
Yes - Select if you regularly post from a computer that can't log in to ilXor.com, because it doesn't store cookies. You won't be asked for your password when you post (NB This also allows other people to post using your name and/or email address).

teeny (teeny), Monday, 20 June 2005 23:45 (twenty years ago)

ah, I just saw the noise board thread that may have prompted all this.

teeny (teeny), Monday, 20 June 2005 23:48 (twenty years ago)

More likely Jon (although I don't know) using Sara's login. It's the e-mail address she lists on her website and one that she has used on ILM previously. Maybe she logged out and so it's possible for someone else to use it now?

x-post:

Okay, but I don't think she posts here any more and isn't there to see those options.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Monday, 20 June 2005 23:51 (twenty years ago)

before jumping to conclusions and ASSUMING jon is using sara's login, why don't you look first at the posts and discover he is using his own LOGIN? Those details are so hard sometimes.

Ellsworth M. Toohey (Grodd), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 00:04 (twenty years ago)

I don't really know if there's a good reason to have the above option available--lizards (and others), what do you think about getting rid of it? It just leaves a hole in the system. Although I can think of at least one way to get around that even if the option is removed.

Jon, would you please stop doing this?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 00:06 (twenty years ago)

I said maybe Sara is using Jon's login, not the other way around.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 00:07 (twenty years ago)

as in she was using a computer that he was logged into and then changing the personal info rather than logging out, ed-n-suzy stylee, I don't know who's best buddies offboard.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

that wasnt for you, teeny. sorry.

Ellsworth M. Toohey (Grodd), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 00:08 (twenty years ago)

I don't normally view ILX with Show All Details, so I tend to forget how easy it is to find out who's who. I've let Sara know, so she can do what she wants.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 00:12 (twenty years ago)

The e-mail address wouldn't be visible to people who aren't logged in, true, but a casual user who happens to know, or of know of, Sara and Plain Parade might be misled into thinking it was her.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

(Incidentally, interested noise board mafia please re-read this thread to see if I made the first mention of Jon and if I jumped to any conclusions.

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 00:21 (twenty years ago)

jon is using sara's login.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

i know this because i received an irate message from sara about the situation. there is no possibility that either of them is logging into the same computer.

maria tessa sciarrino (theoreticalgirl), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 01:20 (twenty years ago)

Hi! This is Sara Sherr. I just posted the same question to the Mod Board and I didn't name anyone. But I haven't posted to this board since I came to my senses in April. Jon is using my name. It needs to stop.

Notme, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

sara, can you login and check that setting I mentioned above?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 01:33 (twenty years ago)

I can't log in because I never registered. When I try to register with my that address, it's taken.

Notme, Tuesday, 21 June 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

"noize board mafia"

There is no X in Team (jaxon), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 03:58 (twenty years ago)

it's because jon changed the address on his login to yours. to fix it, he needs to relenquish the address, which since it was never registered, was available.

Ellsworth M. Toohey (Grodd), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 04:28 (twenty years ago)

Why don't you oscillate your weiners.

Sara Sherr, Blogger and Stereolab Fan (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 04:35 (twenty years ago)

Let the email hostage negotiations begin . . .

Ellsworth M. Toohey (Grodd), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 04:36 (twenty years ago)

I honestly don't see this as a problem -- Jon has logged with his own name!

Remy (x Jeremy), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 04:37 (twenty years ago)

Curious tactic.

Sociah T Azzahole (blueski), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 08:42 (twenty years ago)

I didn't know who "ex machina" was since I haven't followed Jon's career here all that closely (and haven't been viewing the boards--mostly ILM/ILE--with Login details displayed, something I will start doing).

RS (Catalino) LaRue (RSLaRue), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 10:53 (twenty years ago)

Personally, I think username display should be forced on.

Sara Sherr, Blogger and Stereolab Fan (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 11:04 (twenty years ago)

I honestly don't see this as a problem -- Jon has logged with his own name!

RSLaRue has explained why it's a problem. Most readers won't know (and those not logged in won't be able) to check the bona fides when someone else's name and email are being used. This crosses a line and threatens ILX as a whole. I.e., this is not about the personal relations between Sara and Jon, if there are any. Posters shouldn't be allowed to pose as other posters.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

One of the dangers is that, unless it's 100% obvious to the casual googler that the posts are not from Sara Sherr, Sara could sue (not just the imposter, but whoever maintains the server, and maybe the mods as well, esp. given that they've been informed of the problem). Not that she would, but someone else in a similar situation might.

Frank Kogan (Frank Kogan), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

Frank OTM. Get one grasp of consequences.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:10 (twenty years ago)

(This particular situation is kind of hysterical but the potential fallout really isn't.)

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

Sara Sherr's email to me about this tripped my spam filter.

Sara Sherr, Blogger and Stereolab Fan (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:21 (twenty years ago)

The only solution I have is to make ILE and ILM registered user only, and then to ban Jon. Some of the stuff that Jon has done in the past is short-term annoying/destructive and long-term useful, since it points out problems in the code. Spoofing other users is a problem that's always possible as long as we're not registered user-only. I do not think it's cool to spoof another user, especially when it happens to involve a user's real name and business and appears to be done with malice in response to something that happened off-board.

Jon, will you please stop doing this or at least respond?

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:24 (twenty years ago)

One of the dangers is that, unless it's 100% obvious to the casual googler that the posts are not from Sara Sherr, Sara could sue (not just the imposter, but whoever maintains the server, and maybe the mods as well, esp. given that they've been informed of the problem
Doubtful, it is in Australia.


Teeny:

Basically, I'm being snotty about this at this point because Sara Sherr, when she has a problem with something I did on ILX, chooses to slag me in her little blog where she can control the discourse, rather than openly address her concerns with a reasonable discussion of whatever affront I caused her. Rather than responding to criticism of her extremely misinformed view of some imaginary group of males on ILX, she instead deleted her blog entry. I realize that this is kind of childish and silly, but I feel it is my prerogative to be as nasty and snipey as I like (within the boundries of the law; not threatening people, etc) to anyone who cares to choose their words so poorly and paint me (and my friends) with such ugly broad strokes.

I also was offended that someone -- accusing me of homophobia -- chose
to mock supposed "homophobes" utilizing mocking homosexual imagery.

Teeny, I will unlock her email address and stop using her name now. I'd like to say tough shit, but I don't make the rules here.


(You might wanna unindex some of these threads due to all the real names therein.)

JW (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

thanks for changing your name back and thanks for the explanation.

teeny (teeny), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:51 (twenty years ago)

(I am not a liberal arts major, forgive my shitty writing.)

Ultragrill (ex machina), Tuesday, 21 June 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

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Amon (eman), Wednesday, 22 June 2005 01:46 (twenty years ago)


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