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Yeah it is, the Mike Baron flash - great stuff! Vandal Savage has never been scarier. The Flash asking for payment! Kapitalist Kouriers! Velocity-9! CHUNK! Kilg%re!

I'm not sure the comic's ever been better to be honest.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:22 (nineteen years ago) link

You know, I remember having warm fuzzies for the first chunk of Mike Baron's Punisher, too. THAT BEING SAID...

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:28 (nineteen years ago) link

Chunk is awesome. I'm up to #82 right now, and hoping that none of the following issues feature The Death of Chunk in any way...

carson dial (carson dial), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:47 (nineteen years ago) link

As far as I know Chunk is still going! There was a hairy moment when he turned up in a Geoff Johns story and his powers went wild but I believe he pulled through unscathed.

The great thing about the Baron FLASH (& the Messner-Loebs run) is that in 6/8/10 years time some writer is going to come along and revive it all in the same way Johns is all about the Cary Bates rogues galleries and soapy set-ups.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I hope that Blue Trinity/Kapitalist Kouriers are still around (but don't spoil it for me!), though I guess they won't fit in with the current DCU timeline and will probably be OMAC fodder like the Rocket Reds.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:57 (nineteen years ago) link

I think Chunk eats them.

:)

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 26 September 2005 14:58 (nineteen years ago) link

okay, so I have been re-reading the Morrison-Millar Flash run and mad apologies to Andrew upthread, it totally reads more like Morrison on the first three and less like him on the next two! I would happily read more Mirror Master written by Millar every month (though Grant should provide the clever supervillain tricks).

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 30 September 2005 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

i finally 'figured out' zcult - ROCK

quick question, the person who started the thread about martian manhunter's 'demise' - are they really that person?

also: it roxx. so hard.

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 30 September 2005 06:22 (nineteen years ago) link

How do you do it, James, I haven't got a frickin' clue.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 30 September 2005 09:56 (nineteen years ago) link

"I hope that Blue Trinity/Kapitalist Kouriers are still around (but don't spoil it for me!), though I guess they won't fit in with the current DCU timeline and will probably be OMAC fodder like the Rocket Reds."

One of them (don't ask me which one) died in some crossover or Flash event some years ago. He was running up the wall of some building when he lost his powers, fell down and SPLOTCH!

And yes, Messner-Loebs' Flash was lovely.

iodine (iodine), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:01 (nineteen years ago) link

Re: Zcult, you have to follow the instructions they give you exactly.
I, meanwhile, have made no progress, despite lots of helpful tips from ILCers, in figuring out DC++.

quick question, the person who started the thread about martian manhunter's 'demise' - are they really that person?

Is what who now?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 30 September 2005 15:07 (nineteen years ago) link

yeah dc++ i got no idea what the hell that is; i'm more than fine so far with zcult esp since the only thing i'd love to find i can't so much (indie artsy) apparently isn't really cbr'ed that thrououghly anyhow.

chuck register and then go to the introduce yourself thread/forum which will be one of the few things you'll see and start a thread introducing yourself, post it, and then immediately you'll have access to the rest of the site. look for the tracker 'forums' at the bottom then.

j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 30 September 2005 18:35 (nineteen years ago) link

One of them (don't ask me which one) died in some crossover or Flash event some years ago. He was running up the wall of some building when he lost his powers, fell down and SPLOTCH!

I don't remember reading this, but it sounds very much like the Gene Bomb in INVASION!, doesn't it?

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Monday, 3 October 2005 08:12 (nineteen years ago) link

Someone also told me something about a program called EDonkey, that works on comiccentral.cc. But I can't figure that either. Thanks, though!

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:03 (nineteen years ago) link

Do you HAVE to pay on Zcult?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:06 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think so. But they certainly would like you to. I haven't. I haven't d/led anything from them in a while, since I realized that d/ling the entire Suicide Squad run was fun and all, but I'm never going to get around to reading the whole thing. Especially not since I've got EVERY WALLY WEST FLASH EVER to get through.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 3 October 2005 13:56 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, I've joined. And paid (whoops). What next?

Signed,
A confused stupid comics pirate.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 3 October 2005 14:43 (nineteen years ago) link

chuck register and then go to the introduce yourself thread/forum which will be one of the few things you'll see and start a thread introducing yourself, post it, and then immediately you'll have access to the rest of the site. look for the tracker 'forums' at the bottom then.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 3 October 2005 14:49 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
Last night I finally read Batman: Detective #27, the historical whatchamacallit by Bat-Movie Potentate Michael Uslan and A Man Named Snejberg.
Very, very stupid. This had been promoted as being along the lines of Carter Beats the Devil, one of my favourite novels ever, and I almost bought it in hardcover. Whew!
Uslan makes hay out of the 1989 Batflick, cribbing the Jack Napier character AND that atrocious "Dance...devil...pale moonlight" catchphrase. The nail (but not "THE NAIL") in the Elseworlds coffin, I guess.
The art is really great, howev.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 21 October 2005 14:15 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
Last night I d/led the comics that changed my life. Green Lantern, Vol. 2 #170-224. Basically just before the Dave Gibbons run through the end of the GLC series. I am worried about re-reading them. BUT GUH! Gibbons' art is oh mama.

Also d/led:
The Brave & the Bold #200, final issue, Batman/Batman by Mike W. Barr & Dave Gibbons. Turns out, I used to have this as well, but I had completely forgotten about it. A strange tale of Earths 1 & 2 and a man named Brimstone (with AWESOME hair) who traversed the multi-dimensional barrier using only his hatred for Batman.
Justice League of America #171 & 172 Another Earth 1 & Earth 2 story. This one concerns the annual team-up of the JLA/JSA and the death of the original Mr. Terrific. I remember getting the first issue from a used bin when I was a kid, and then I never found the conclusion, so I've just been walking around like a moron for all these years wondering who killed Mr. T. Turns out it was Jay Garrick, but the JL/SA decided that since they've always liked Jay Garrick more than Terry Sloane anyway, they'd just wipe their own minds and forget about it.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 22 November 2005 15:52 (eighteen years ago) link

Over the weekend, I d/led and read: Arsenal Four issue mini from '98. Written by Dick Grayson, drawn by Cory Anders, inked by Garfield Logan. "OH NO, the fellow I was sidekick to is dead, I MUST BECOME GREEN ARROW! Er, wait, there's already a new Green Arrow, and this guy is the old Green Arrow's biological son. Oliver Queen didn't even have the decency to have sex with my mother! Where is my mother? I guess I didn't have one. The midichlorians from my forest ranger daddy's peepee just issued me forth. I guess that's why I'm such a lady's man."

The Brave & the Bold #85, Peak Neal Adams, 1st appearance of Green Arrow's beard! Amazingly, I've read this before! It must have been reprinted in one of those DC Blue Ribbon Digests. Still, fantastic non-fantastic Bob Haney story. Bruce Wayne, congressman! Batman and GA share a psychiatrist! Psychiatrist uses self-hypnosis to remove knowledge of their secret IDs! Who needs Zatanna?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 28 November 2005 15:39 (eighteen years ago) link

I read Batgirl #1-69. It's really good for the most part, though it does keep getting waylaid by stupid crossovers. The stuff from the original writers are like a masterclass into how to deal with a one-gimmick superhero for 50 issues without it being boring (though some of the issues do read quite quickly). At some point they have a 3-issue Connor Hawke crossover, as asked for in the letter page. This should by rights be pretty awesome, except it's written by Chuck Dixon so it's ass instead.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:22 (eighteen years ago) link

I really enjoyed the first trades of Batgirl (which I scored at the public library), but could never justify paying for comics that scan in under a minute. I guess that's a little rockist, isn't it.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 28 November 2005 16:27 (eighteen years ago) link

So there I was, downloading the final 50 issues or so of the Barry Allen Flash series, and I realized, "These were actually pretty awful comics, weren't they?"
But having just read all the 80s Green Lantern, I'm kinda locked in.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 1 December 2005 15:35 (eighteen years ago) link

oh no, don't say it, I've been wanting to read those since I was nine!

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 2 December 2005 00:36 (eighteen years ago) link

The Carmine Infantino art on those makes them worth reading, doesn't it? I remember reading the Eradicator storyline as a kid and being all freaked out by the art-- people disintegrated into little purple corpuscles and so on.

Chris F. (servoret), Friday, 2 December 2005 05:16 (eighteen years ago) link

Ha ha, I just read the Eradicator storyline!
Infantino's art here is SO loose and weird. I really don't know what to make of it. Maybe it's the inker (name: unremembered), or maybe it's just the natural evolution (a la Gil Kane) of the tighter (more commercial?) art Infantino did in the 50s and 60s.

I can't believe Big Sir got his own card. Did any of the other Injustice Leaguers?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:46 (eighteen years ago) link

And obviously, Infantino's loose style is kinda perfect for the speed effects of the Flash, where you get these panoramic panels of yellow and red squiggles.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 2 December 2005 14:48 (eighteen years ago) link

I really enjoyed the first trades of Batgirl (which I scored at the public library), but could never justify paying for comics that scan in under a minute. I guess that's a little rockist, isn't it.

No, that's fair enough. Being really quick reads also helps me get through 60-odd in a day.

Anyway:

Teen Titans Go! 1-20 odd

This is definitely the comic book of the TV Series, with the return of actual editor's captions, which refer to episodes of the TV show rather than other comics. Does the current rake of 'Adventures' (comics of DC TV animations) do this? I assume old-school toy comics (G.I.Joe, Transformers, Zoids) must have done this a certain amount.

The comics all read really quickly, like they'd be a good five-minute time-filler in one of the TV episodes. I never realised until reading them, what a strange continuity situation the series was in - they're characters from 20 years ago, in the modern world. Because I'd read Gotham Central's Dead Robin arc just before this, which has a Titans containing Beast Boy, Cyborg, Raven and Robin III, I didn't notice that this one was Dick Grayson until it's (literally) spelled out. Though guest stars from Wildebeest and Speedy should probably have tipped me off :)

Also I read Power Pack 1-5, out of a massive torrent of all of them ever, and thought "Yes, this is roughly what I remember, I'll stop now". They're great characters, but that might be the problem: they're so like actual kids that spending more than a short amount of time with them can get pretty annoying.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 4 December 2005 19:31 (eighteen years ago) link

I assume old-school toy comics (G.I.Joe, Transformers, Zoids) must have done this a certain amount.

No, old school G.I.Joe and Transformers had continuities independent from the actual toys and the other tie-ins. And in the case of Larry Hama's Joe and the British Transformers, their continuities were way more intricate and way, way more awesome, although Hama's eventually died from an overdose of the crappy new toys he kept having to shoehorn in to his stories. (Well, OK, the ninja thing didn't help after a while either.)

Chris F. (servoret), Monday, 5 December 2005 03:21 (eighteen years ago) link

I always felt that they were a little nebulous about which Robin it is on the TV show (haven't read TTG!), since it's sort of the Tim Drake costume, but it's the Wolfman/Perez Titans (minus Kid Flash and Wonder Girl), and the whole budding romance with Starfire, but I think the show makes a point of avoiding the issue by keeping the focus on the In-Costume lives of its character.
I don't think they ever even mention Batman (though during one of the episodes where Slade/Deathstroke is trying to make Robin his protege, Slade/Deathstroke delivers a Darth Vader-like speech about ruling teh galaxy together and Robin screams "I already have a father!" and a swarm of bats fly out (from where?)).

Over the weekend, I d/led THE GREAT DARKNESS SAGA (whose central mystery is spoiled by the cover of the trade, dirty fuckers) and the first 37 (complete pre-Zero Hour?) issues of the Five Year Gap Legion.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 5 December 2005 14:43 (eighteen years ago) link

There are a few issues of set-up that aren't in the Great Darkness trade, too. And the first 37 LSHv4s take you up to Giffen's second-last issue, Zero Hour is still a few years away at that point. (You can totally stop reading at 37, though.)

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 00:28 (eighteen years ago) link

Damn. I d/led GDS by the issue, too. I could have enjoyed it even more. Completely ruined the the "Foundations" storyline from the The Legion series just before the latest reboot, howev.

I just found a motherlode of The Question, including a truly horrendous Question/Blue Beetle team-up from 1981 (Charlton's last gasp?).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 6 December 2005 05:56 (eighteen years ago) link

Was the Ditko Question in that motherlode, Huk? I'm still looking for Mysterious Suspense #1...

Chris F. (servoret), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 04:27 (eighteen years ago) link

I've got that one!
If that's yr proper email address, I'll YSI later today. You want the 1981 one as well, just for completism's sake?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 7 December 2005 14:34 (eighteen years ago) link

'Tis indeed my proper e-mail address, and I'd be much obliged if you did YSI me! I think I've read the rubbish 1981 thing already so I'm not really interested in it, but if you had any other Ditko stories I'd be interested in taking a gander at them as well.

Chris F. (servoret), Thursday, 8 December 2005 02:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Will hook you up in about 7 hrs.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 8 December 2005 14:47 (eighteen years ago) link

Sweet! Thanks. If you want to read the Ditko The Hawk and the Doves (which I think are the best Objectivist comics he ever did, probably in no small part because Steve Skeates was the one writing the dialogue), I could reciprocate.

Chris F. (servoret), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

Cool.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 8 December 2005 17:58 (eighteen years ago) link

It's sent!
Once Chris d/l's it, I'll post the link for the rest of y'alls.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:41 (eighteen years ago) link

FFS! Who put Man of Steel in my d/l queue?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 8 December 2005 21:43 (eighteen years ago) link

I've got it and read it, Huk-- jolly good! Great Objectivist comix, with just a hint of Robert Heinlein in the interactions between Vic Sage and his loyal supporters. The ending is great Ditko! (And the opening caption of Chapter Two is a great potshot at Spider-Man-- I guess Ditko going off the book wasn't such a big loss after all!)

Chris F. (servoret), Friday, 9 December 2005 04:01 (eighteen years ago) link

I sent Huk a link to The Hawk and the Dove #1 and 2-- I'll post it here after I get back from vacation in a few days, in case anyone else is interested. I'd post their Showcase appearance also, but I only have that in the antiquated paper original, and I have no scanner. It doesn't matter anyhow-- the series itself is way better than the Showcase story, which is very slight.

Chris F. (servoret), Friday, 9 December 2005 04:04 (eighteen years ago) link

Hey, if I scan a bunch of pages (of, say, a comic) at home, do you know how to convert it to a cbr?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 9 December 2005 10:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Zip your folder full of scans and change the file extension from .zip to .cbz, and there's you a .cbz file. A big of googling later... a .cbr file is just a .rar file with its file extension changed.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 9 December 2005 14:08 (eighteen years ago) link

Ta. I'll do those long-promised (to someone) h3ckl3rz this weekend.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 9 December 2005 14:24 (eighteen years ago) link

MYSTERIOUS SUSPENSE!!!
http://s4.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3W1FEMF01NNRB146YLI31HIF7C

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 9 December 2005 14:29 (eighteen years ago) link

"Invalid link."

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 9 December 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link

Never mind, it worked on the 2nd try.

I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Friday, 9 December 2005 14:53 (eighteen years ago) link


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