Aldo reads DC's New 52 (So you don't have to)

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He was writing one of the Bat-books before the reboot to some acclaim, yeah? I believe I'm going to borrow the TPB off a friend, after he buys it.

More from Rozum, unfairly excerpted by me:

I've had people announce that due to the low quality of comic that they would no longer buy anything that had my name on it. I've had an editor at a publisher other than DC say they weren't interested in having me write for them because they thought Static Shock was a poor comic book series.

All of my ideas and suggestions were met with disdain, and Scott McDaniel lectured me on how my method for writing was wrong because it wasn't what the Robert McKee screenwriting book he read told him was the way to do things. The man who'd never written anything was suddenly more expert than me and the editor was agreeing with him. Scott had also never read a Static comic book, nor seen the cartoon series, yet was telling me that my dialogue didn't sound true to the character and would "fix it."

One of my scripts was deemed too slow because there were a total of 4 pages where no one was hitting or shooting anything.

Essentially my job was to transcribe Scott's voluminous and often clunky dialogue into a script format. Any efforts I made to try and finesse, edit, or reduce his dialogue or captions, offended him, and everything had to be changed back to how he'd originally written it, while my dialogue always required his improvement. Scott, to be fair, had a lot of great ideas, but did not have the writing skills necessary to make these ideas compelling stories, but was not willing to take any suggestions, or changes that I'd give him.

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 25 January 2012 01:03 (twelve years ago) link

All Star Western #5: Gray and Palmiotti LOVE LOVE LOVE being in Gotham. The next stage of the plot has them being terrorised by the Miagani (from Batman: The Cult and retconned during Return of Bruce Wayne). Amadeus shits himself. Hex realises at the end he hates Gotham, but this may be because he's being attacked by a GIANT bat. This book really has taken on a new lease of life since moving to the city and I can easily see it running for years, if sales allow. In the backup which means the book is an extra buck, we get the origin of the Barbary Ghost. I'm not sure I wouldn't have the extra dollar tbh.

Aquaman #5: As this issues#'s joke at the expense of Aquaman makes clear, the Navy save Aquaman's life this month after he gets stuck and almost dies. In the middle of the desert. That must have been done before, no? Anyway, in the ACTUAL plot the Atlantean spaceship discovered down where the Trench live is revealed to be... ummm... an Atlantean spaceship. And the shocking secret behind Atlantis being destroyed is... ummm... Atlantis gets destroyed. If this was anyone other than GJ I'd suggest they were better than this. I'm not sure he is.

Batman The Dark Knight #5: I've reached the point where I'd like to know how much of the plotting is actually done by David Finch, but in this issue it probably doesn't matter much. We get some expansion on the Scarecrow reveal from the end of last month but OH NOES Bats is infected by the poison like Two-Face and the rest were in prior issues. Surprisingly, this makes his strong enough to punch out Superman. Unfortunately Supes isn't the one of the pair that does the detecting and so gets the effects wrong - it doesn't give Bats invincibility YA BIG DUMMY! Have you punche dhim to death? (The answer will be no, obviously, but nice cliffhanger.) Still on the good side of average, but with odd bursts of greatness.

Flash #5: This is still a blinding read, from the notion that Captain Cold's powers are WAY more powerful in the Johnsiverse to the revelation at the end that it's ALL the Flash's fault as the Speed Force (or manipulating it) REALLY fucks up space and time. They could have just read Flashpoint really, as that makes the same point far less well. Barry also seems to be chasing more than one woman - does this make him the Flash of Two Burds? Consistently thrill-powered whatever.

I, Vampire #5: As ever, gorgeous to look at but (and continuingly so) making no sense within the Johnsiverse. Batman turns up in this, so it's clearly in continuity. But how can it possibly be with the content? Boston, Star City, Los Angeles and others have seen horrific outbursts of violence and masses of the population have died and then become a plague of vampires on a Crossed level yet no superheroes noticed until now? One would expect, perhaps, that this will introduce zoning boundaries and no-fly zones for vigilantism and federal super-offences - like the Flash stopping chasing a bad guy because he's 10km outside Central City. I bet it doesn't. Still worth looking at though I'm probably not getting enough out of it to keep paying for it.

Justice League #5: I'm pretty sure "We got this" is the worst superhero cheer of the modern era. This is one of only a couple of minutes levity in a book of unrelenting Sadface. The other is Flash wishing he could fly, but an unintentional contender is Hal Jordan being so vacant and dumb he has no idea who MULTI-MILLIONAIRE AND GENERAL ALL-ROUND IMPORTANT GUY Bruce Wayne is. I'm pretty sure this is just a blip in the story, but this was two weeks late? I'm not really sure how much worse this would actually have been had it come out on time, but probably not much.

Justice League Dark #5: Hooray! The team actually forms! Unfortunately it's only for about a page as Constantine (somewhat inevitably) decides everyone else is crap compared to him. Throw in some low-level sexual behaviour (Zatanna french-kisses Shade to show him what a tongue tastes like), and Deadman desperate to get his end away now Dawn's dumped him and it's more of the same, really. A solid 'C', but probably ripe for cutting from pull lists.

Superman #5: This has about half as many words as the previous issues but the downside of this is that it makes half as much sense. I guess there was a reason for the swathes of text after all then. Supes defeats the aliums from before OR DOES HE, HMM? He speaks like he's reading a script and just kills people when he feels like it - surely this can't be the Man of Steel? Of course not, he's a cinder floating in Spain. (The download code to my Ultimate Spider-Man for the first to get that reference. See? Competitions and everything. Aren't I good to you?) Be here next month if you can be arsed. I'm not sure I can, and George Perez must be getting itchy feet too.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 28 January 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

This book really has taken on a new lease of life since moving to the city and I can easily see it running for years, if sales allow.

This has been cancelled iirc

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:44 (twelve years ago) link

or maybe that's another Gray/Palmiotti joint

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:45 (twelve years ago) link

I hope not! The couple of issues of All Star Western I've read have been some of the best of the new 52.

EZ Snappin, Saturday, 28 January 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link

It's not one of the announced ones, but I won't be that surprised as Jonah Hex always flirted with cancellation.

(Just checked the sales numbers, just under 30k in December - 3 times what Hex sold - which means there are 21 worse sellers in the New 52.)

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link

DC has become the NBC of the comics world...but somehow more incompetent? It makes me wonder if the brass at Time Warner care enough about some of these properties to boot Didio out on his ass before every creator worth a toss refuses to do any further work for them.

SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Saturday, 28 January 2012 23:36 (twelve years ago) link

I think I was thinking of Men Of War, sorry

The brass at Time Warner plainly don't have any comprehension of "the properties," let alone care

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Sunday, 29 January 2012 22:56 (twelve years ago) link

Rob Liefeld inking while driving and filming himself, nbd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZ9hjJabvaI

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 30 January 2012 00:32 (twelve years ago) link

this explains everything really

Wie wol ich bin der vogel has noch den erfret mich das (forksclovetofu), Monday, 30 January 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link

I sure hope GJ's new Shazam back-up finally injects some much-needed personal tragedy and teeth-gritting into the superhero who fights a genius worm with help from a sharp-dressed talking tiger.

like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Monday, 30 January 2012 07:50 (twelve years ago) link

The genius worm was already "grittified" in 53, wasn't it?

Tuomas, Monday, 30 January 2012 10:15 (twelve years ago) link

Sorry, I meant 52.

Tuomas, Monday, 30 January 2012 10:16 (twelve years ago) link

And then re-appeared in Action ungrittified again, last seen heading off into space.

But none of that matters, post-Flashpoint.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Monday, 30 January 2012 10:35 (twelve years ago) link

I obviously haven’t been tracking this one enough, but previously:
Stormwatch: #2 - fill-in artist added.

DC announce Paul Jenkins as fill-in-writer on Stormwatch #7 and #8.
Regular Paul Cornell allows that, actually, he’s walked off the book altogether.
HEY KIDS! Make sure you pick up Suicide Squad issues 6 and 7 for the crossover with Stormwatch #6’s explosive events!
HEY KIDS! Follow the ending of Stormwatch #6 in upcoming issues of Grifter and Voodoo, not in future issues of Stormwatch!
HEY KIDS! Don’t forget that fed-up and fucking-off writer Cornell’s Demon Knights is actually Ancient Stormwatch – you can’t afford to miss an issue!

UPDATE!

DECEMBER: Fill-in writer Paul Jenkins publicly announces that he’d like to stay on the book long-term:

Of course, there will be my takes on the characters and this will be a story I want to explore with these characters, so I'll end up putting my own stamp on it. And in fact, I've talked to DC about a couple of new characters. I have a couple in mind. It depends how long term we go.
Newsarama: Yeah, because you're just on the book for a couple issues, right?
Jenkins: That's right. Initially I'm coming to do two issues, and we'll see what happens after that. We'll find out how much we like working with each other, and we'll see if Stormwatch fits me and whether my ideas fit with their editorial vision for the book. And if so, maybe we'll do more. But at the moment, we've got a pretty cool two-issue arc laid out.

FURTHER UPDATE!

JANUARY:
Pete Milligan is booted off the stupidly titled Justice League Dark and assigned to Stormwatch.
Jeff Lemire is assigned JL DAKEN: DARK WOLVERINE, with the mandate to draw it closer to JUSTICE LEAGUE BRIGHT and work with Geoff Johns on making the two books mesh together.

Note that both Jenkins and Milligan, on their ONE-MONTH-APART Formal Official Newsarama entrance PR interviews, talk extensively about how they don’t want to mess around with the editor’s choice of characters or the editor’s “direction” for the book. Note also that in nine months, the editor has required three different writers to attempt to enact this direction with these characters.

(There’s also a new fill-in artist on Jenkins’ second fill-in issue. This is actually positive, if it means the ongoing creative team get a better chance to gel from the start.)

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:31 (twelve years ago) link

after reading the bullshit regarding Static Shock's "editorial direction" I am starting to think the editors are just jerking people around

mh, Wednesday, 1 February 2012 01:40 (twelve years ago) link

Blackhawks #5: DEAD BOOK WALKING. This even feels like it was rewritten once cancellation was announced to make it feel like they weren't really bvothered because it was only ever going to be eight books, DO YOU SEE it's there all in the writing DO YOU SEE. The threat from the previous issues is beaten by dropping a penny from the top of the Empire State Building a tungsten rod from space then somebody else goes to rescue the guys in a spaceship BECAUSE HE'S A PILOT. It's not all moustaches and airport hotels, you know. Then at the end the woman who was a living computer before is infected by the just killed baddie. Oh, you said 8 issues and not 6. That explains it.

Green Lantern New Guardians #5: So this whole poltline takes place before Red Lanterns #3? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight... Anyway, this kind of does exactly what you'd expect it to. It turns out the whole plan about them going to get the guy who allegedly stole the rings is all a big Larfleeze revenge idea because he's a prick. Which maybe makes him the most Johnsiverse Lantern of them all. It looks like all the planets in the Giant Celestial Model of Doom are, in fact, planets we (or the characters in the book) know well. And at the end a whole new BEST EVER GIANTEST MOST EVIL MOST GOOD BESTEST LANTERN EMENY EVARR turn up. Ho hum.

Savage Hawkman #5: Is it just me, or did this nearly get good? Hawkman's zombie hallucinations are all linked to the introduction of the Gentleman Ghost who actually looks like an EXCITING CHARACTER this time round after ditching the 60s camp. And the build up to the reveal is pretty exciting to - the pacing is good and somehow the art has actually got readable and clear. The punk computer kid is still a huge mis-step but I'd almost consider buying this again on the evidence of this issue (if I was stupid enough to buy more DC books and not just rob them so I an read the crap ones).

Teen Titans #5: I'm not sure when I cancelled this, but I did. Oh well. As Kid Flash says "it involves a lot of hitting". I'm not sure reading it whether Superboy's mind powers aren't cheating on some way. Does this make him too powerful? (Who am I kidding, this is the guy who previously punched the universe...) There's a knock-down slugfight as the Titans attack Superboy one at a time (including typos such as "this lasso is a GRIFT from the Gods") including him headbutting a GURL but then after a philosophical discussion he decides he doesn't want any of it after all and just flies off leaving them behind. The next issue features "the most unexpected guest star of all" - I don't think they realise what I'm capable of expecting. Doiby Dickles? Comet the Super-Horse? Extrano? I CAN(NOT) WAIT.

Firestorm #5: This is just some kind of weird Cold War throwback at this stage, with a couple of modern concessions such as a non-comedy black character. Oh look, a Quraci suicide bomber. And Russia wants to take over the world. Expect some commentary on the War on Drugs next time, and maybe somebody talking about looking forward to that new TV series The A Team. Nearly unreadable.

Voodoo #5: Clones, half-breeds, big chomping dinosaur mouths, bewbs. This should be fun but isn't. It's just so keyed into Wildstorm history that I can't get into it. The closest I can get is to say it's not awful. There are plenty of worse books than this, but I can see cancellation looming - there's just no way this is anybody's favourite.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:04 (twelve years ago) link

haha I am totally loving Voodoo

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:37 (twelve years ago) link

(including typos such as "this lasso is a GRIFT from the Gods")

morelike amazingly clever wordplay hinting at a Wildstorm character appearance amirite

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Friday, 3 February 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link

No, I just think it's ineptitude. But it's not like DC's current editors are capable of that, right?

Dan, I completely see how people could love Voodoo. But I guess it's how people who aren't LoSH fans feel when they try and read Legion Lost.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Friday, 3 February 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link

It's very odd, they decided to go whole hog with the section of the Wildstorm universe that I mostly ignored (I was always way more team Stormwatch/Authority than team WildCATS, with occasional diversions into Gen13/DV8) and my basic verdict is the exact opposite of how I felt about the characters when they were still in the Wildstorm universe, where I thought Voodoo was a wasted character, Grifter was occasionally entertaining and I would devour anything Stormwatch/Authority-related starting with Ellis's run.

I haven't picked up an issue of nu-Stormwatch since #1 but it pissed me off to so much that Cornell's team was basically "the white ppl from The Authority + Martian Manhunter and some nobodies" that I have no interest in seeing if it got better. Swift was a great character mostly because she didn't have a ridiculously flashy power but she was still a badass and credible as a member of The Authority and excising her in favor of some random made-up characters was intensely annoying, particularly when there were a ton of interesting Stormwatch characters to choose from (Battalion, Flint, Fahrenheit, Fuji, Hellstrike, Winter, Rose Tattoo, Synergy) if you wanted to do more than just "The Authority in the DC Universe".

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Friday, 3 February 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

lol I googled "grift typo titans" to read the page myself and http://www.bleedingcool.com/forums/dc-comics/54437-teen-titans-typo-%5Ctisn%5Ct.html

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Saturday, 4 February 2012 02:15 (twelve years ago) link

Some serious benefit of the doubt being given there imo.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 10:57 (twelve years ago) link

Action Comics #6: I accidentally read the review of this on CBR before the comic and can't help agree with what was written there - this could be where a lot of people fall out of love with GMoz. I think the easiest criticism is that it seems to wilfully obscure itself. The villains from the last issue are (potentially) dispensed with in a couple of panels with no explanation of who they ever were; the plot detailed at the beginning of the issue doesn't actually happen; the issue takes place in more than one time zone; the resolution is never explained; the closest thing the issue has to a main character happened previously to Superman in another (untold) story which is explained through telepathy... do you see what I'm getting at? It feels like he's taking the piss, almost. I do actually like it, but I don't know why. Plus we get the least worst Solly Fisch backup to date. So not all bad news.

Animal Man #6: Great stuff, but do we really need a non-plot issue less than six months in? I'm guessing it's to let Swamp Thing do what it needs to do before they run with the same story, but all the same... this is about a film Buddy made back when he was an actor. It's all about a guy who shouldn't really be a hero because it's fucking up his home life but he can't stay away. All a bit DO YOU SEE but well written and with great art (it looks like Daredevil). Just an oddity.

Batwing #6: I definitely cancelled this, but it turned up anyway. Oh well. "Three years ago" "Giza, Egypt" "One year ago" - boy, this flashes back and forward. And ends up in issue 1. It turns out the baddie is one of Batwang's old mates from when he was a mercenary but with some kind of augmentation so he can't feel pain (yes, in the same year as Bane hits the big screen) and is on his way to Gotham to kill some gay African superheroes. Despite this we still don't find out why Massacre is after the members of The Kingdom. C'mon guys, throw us some crumbs here? The final page shows Nightwing and Robin (meaning this is either in another universe from B&R or in another time?) joining in as one big giant Batfamily. Gotta catch 'em all!

Detective Comics #6: Next month, Carlsberg sues DC. Seriously, the logo of the Penguin's casino is a direct rip-off, to the extent it even has the same flourish underneath which makes zero sense if it doesn't start with a C. This is pretty good though, although arguably more of an explanatory book with no real signs of resolving anything. We find out who some of the bad guys are and by the end of the issue Bats has done enough detecting (or just plain beating people up tbh) to be at the same position as we are. Can we wrap this plot up soon? Thanks.

OMAC #6: KIRBY KNOCKDOWN FIGHTY GOODNESS. One of the Furies turns up looking for Mother Box in a restaurant (actually, she's the recruitment consultant from previous issues) and we get a bit more interaction between Maxwell Lord and Brother Eye. Then a Kord Industries employee fails to shoot Lord. Wait a minute, KORD Industries? Ted Kord is in the Johnsiverse? Why have we got such a shitty Blue Beetle then? And this book only has two issues to go. Honestly, it's like DC aren't pandering exactly to me or something. Buck up your ideas chaps.

Red Lanterns #6: Yet more "Britain isn't in America" shouting by me is imminent. Oxford appears to be in Florida and the police here routinely carry billy clubs and tazers which they use whenever they feel like. An awful lot of the dialogue in this is GRAAARRRRRR RARRRRR etc, but Milligan has already undone his own plotting. So the Red Lanterns have conventional thoughts, it's just that they can't speak? How does that square with brainless rage machines that have to get thrown in the sea of blood to be self-aware? We get a bit of a fight between Atrocitus and Bleez, which frankly is only in there as an excuse to show us her arse and then next month is teased with Guy Gardner turning up. So where is this in relation to Green Lantern Corps, where Guy's in space stealing guns to fight lantern farmers? My head hurts trying to keep all these together.

Stormwatch #6: OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE. "To find out why see Superman #7" ON THE FIRST FUCKING PAGE. Oh and that picture of Jenny near the end. SHE'S A CHILD, NOT A FUCKING DWARF. Can we pretend this never happened? It turns out the ship is nanobots held together by a tortured Daemonite, which works because Jack has realised that means it's a city. So he persuades it not blow up. In other news, Midnighter comes out as gay which makes him extra considerate of children, apparently. MAKE IT STOP.

Swamp Thing #6: Impossible to describe without major spoilers, this is the best issue yet. Beautiful and horrible and near-perfect. This is such a good book I may even buy the collection. You should too.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 13:59 (twelve years ago) link

Green Arrow #6: So, gun woman can't shoot as she misses Ollie's head from point blank range. But that's all right because it gives him the chance to tell us he's in Justice League #8 while his mate puts a sticking plaster on the graze. It turns out she's an ex-gf of Ollies only she doesn't recognise him and he doesn't recognise her. And then she's a robot. Who gets blown up. Ollie has a beer to celebrate. Ann Nocenti can't make this worse. That's damning with faint praise.

Hawk & Dove #6: Things Rob Liefeld does not understand; a list.

Perspective
Anatomy
The age of children
Scale
Sexuality
Feet
Standing upright
Kneeling
Physics
The meaning of infinity
Harry Potter
Physical strength
Hawk
Batman
Sarcasm

So, not much wrong with this, then. Why not turn over the whole line to him?

(I have just remembered I quite liked the last Hawkman, but Rob's taking that over soon which is a good reason not to put it back on a pull list.)

Justice League International #6: Shit. The team that has existed for the previous 5 issues now actually exists. Godiva defuses a bomb with her hair, which is possibly more useful than wanking Batman off with it (although maybe Bats doesn't agree). There are lots of panels which are just pointless staged shots. IT'S NOT THE EIGHTIES ANY MORE.

Men of War #6: It'll be a mercy killing when this Rock series gets cancelled. Super invincible impossibly old soldiers get beaten by a bloke nobody knew had superpowers shooting light out of his ears, or something. This magically moves the ropes off Rock's mates and ties up the bad guys in an instant, who he then decides just to let go after they've had a nice chat. It actually reads like this is the end of Rock. Dropped from your own book before it gets cancelled. Now that's ignominy. The backup is pretty good though - although the fact it's by John Arcudi and Rich Corben exposes it for the throwaway Hellboy plot it is. Not good enough.

Static Shock #6: In which he is joined by his friends Hardware and Technique. And then the all-black X-Men get invented on the last two pages. That's the best thing I can think of to say about it. It's just a chore to read now.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 15:51 (twelve years ago) link

It'll be a mercy killing when this Rock series gets cancelled.

already done!

me four weeks ago:

UPDATE!
Ivan Brandon is reported to have walked off Men Of War after #6 due to due to frustration with the heavy-handed editorial meddling and micro-management. DC is like “pfft what? That’s silly, everything’s totes chill over here, everything’s under control".
FURTHER UPDATE!
Men Of War #7 will contain not one but TWO separate fill-in stories, by James Robinson and HEROIC MAN OF THE HOUR J.T. Krul!

EZ Snappin three weeks ago:
first cancellations announced, all ending with issue 8 (leaving the final two out of the already announced collections - way to go DC!):

BLACKHAWKS, HAWK AND DOVE, MEN OF WAR, MISTER TERRIFIC, O.M.A.C. and STATIC SHOCK

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link

Yeah I know, but it's not nearly soon enough.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link

are the "black X-Men" the Blood Syndicate, or did they invent pointless new characters?

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link

No, they just all decide to live in Alva House. "It's a special... school. There are others there that know exactly what you've gone through."

Google only offers skyrim answers, so I'm guessing it's new. (NB I think it's in Harlem. The text isn't clear on that though.)

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Saturday, 4 February 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link

Action 6 was the first Morrison comic (well, besides that Joker all-text issue) that I just couldn't wait to be over. Though I knew I'd read all the previous issues, this made me feel as though I'd missed a whole bunch somehow. And the Legion stuff... fuck the Legion. The Legion is so fucking boring.

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Sunday, 5 February 2012 22:59 (twelve years ago) link

HEY FUCK YOU on behalf of Siegel, teenage-only Shooter, and Giffen. The rest I can't argue with*


*actually I <3 Levitz' second solo run too, but wouldn't throw someone into its deep, soapy end

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 6 February 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link

No no, fuck the boring Legion is about right.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 6 February 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link

JERRY SIEGEL! KEITH GIFFEN!

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 6 February 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link

To be fair, I haven't read "the good" Legion stuff, it's just they're so shiny and plastic and camp and 1950s-Jetsons-future and dull and dated and stupid that every time they appear in something I actually like my heart sinks. specially when that something, like Action 6, is reduced to gibberish by my lack of assumed knowledge.

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:08 (twelve years ago) link

ACTION is just not doing much for me. And I was as big a booster of ALL-STAR as you could get. There have been one or two neat things per issue (which, granted, is better than most of the Big Two line). But this feels like coming back to leftovers. It's just not feeling very inspired, and I'm also getting the feeling that like with FINAL CRISIS, I'm reading about half of what could be a good comic, like every other page or something.

Matt M., Monday, 6 February 2012 02:24 (twelve years ago) link

with Morrison not even wanting to write this two-ish fill-in, it's no wonder it's falling so drastically flat. having to have Kubert Minor on it can't help. (I've not even bothered to go and get #6, I'll pick it up when #7 or the next Batwoman or Snarked come out)

since he was only committed for 6 issues to begin with, we should be finding out any week now if he's on past #8. if so and it stays $3.99 for 20pp I'm probably bailing.

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Monday, 6 February 2012 02:47 (twelve years ago) link

ACTION is just not doing much for me. And I was as big a booster of ALL-STAR as you could get.

Very much so. ALL-STAR was sooooooo good. This has had some fun ideas, but it's really a bit of a mess.

What would have been good would have been to somehow have the All-Star Superman as the new 52 version. Then if Morrison still had Superman stories to tell, he could have done it as a vol 2

Not only dermatologists hate her (James Morrison), Monday, 6 February 2012 07:41 (twelve years ago) link

I tend to forgive GM's messiness, because he usually finds a way to tie all his multiple narratives together -- albeit sometimes only several years later -- in a way that retroactively justifies all yr efforts.

But yeah, this, with the random story switcheroos and shitty backups, feels properly messy in a non-redemptive way.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 6 February 2012 13:38 (twelve years ago) link

THE LIEFELD LINE-UP!

Universally reviled hack Frank Tieri to script Liefeld's GRIFTER! Writer of Rob Liefeld's Avengelyne and Rob Liefeld's Brigade to script Liefeld's THE UNPLEASANT HAWKMAN! Absolutely EVERYBODY GETS A SWORD!!!

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.comicsalliance.com/media/2012/02/liefeldlineup.jpg

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 05:44 (twelve years ago) link

ok Oprah

Nhex, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 05:58 (twelve years ago) link

haven't been following Green Lantern over the last five years, can someone tell me why Hal Jordan is wearing a tie?
http://www.newsarama.com/php/multimedia/album_view.php?gid=4012&page=3

like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 06:45 (twelve years ago) link

That is some dull as dishwater art.

Don't know about the tie, but I see he got the Bomber Jacket memo.

Matt M., Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:37 (twelve years ago) link

Hal Jordan, protector of thieves.

Aunt Acid and the Gaviscons (aldo), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:53 (twelve years ago) link

wait how did I not hear about him taking over Grifter

maybe I just blocked that from my memory

I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 7 February 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link

well, at least it reflects how dull hal jordan is

Nhex, Tuesday, 7 February 2012 23:57 (twelve years ago) link

I have been reading Green Lantern comics for 30+ years and I've never seen him wear a tie. I can't tell if the takeaway from the fight scene is that Hal Jordan wears a clip-on or that he wears cheap, easily ripped ties. Anyway, glad to see a fresh take on the character.

like working at a jewelry store and not knowing about bracelets (Dr. Superman), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 06:07 (twelve years ago) link

The script is predictably terrib, but that's the best (or at least most modern-looking) art I've seen in a DC comic for a while.

Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:25 (twelve years ago) link

yehwha? It looks like something you'd seen in an Avatar comic.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:42 (twelve years ago) link

yeah, when I saw it I thought "god this artwork is bad even for DC" (kinda sub-sub-sub steve mcniven, based on that sample)

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 8 February 2012 12:53 (twelve years ago) link

it was fairly appalling iirc but I don't want to click again

Θ ̨Θƪ (sic), Wednesday, 8 February 2012 22:55 (twelve years ago) link


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