Right. It's obviously been so long since I've read those that I should've just kept my yap shut.
― Matt M., Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
Is there rape in Tom Strong?
hmmm good catch. I can't remember one off the top of my head. The whole thing is so lighthearted it's possible he managed to eschew it.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
also re: Miracleman - Gargunza rapes/molests the sleeping miracle-woman or whatever iirc (altho I can't remember if this is shown explicitly or just referenced)
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:49 (twelve years ago) link
but yeah I haven't read those in forever either. I think my brother has the individual issues.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
don't remember any rapes in the bojeffries saga
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
or maxwell the magic cat
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
or captain britain
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
or big numbers
yeah, but he never finished that
― Number None, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
or warpsmith
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:16 (twelve years ago) link
or skizz
or halo jones
or top ten
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
Well there's statutory in Top Ten. And the whole teen sidekick prostitution ring thing.
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 12 July 2012 18:51 (twelve years ago) link
plus SMAX has rape, and that's kinda Top Ten
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 12 July 2012 19:02 (twelve years ago) link
so basically all the early British stuff which I've never read and for a long time was unavailable in the US is rape-free. glad we cleared that up
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 19:35 (twelve years ago) link
oh right, didn't realise when you said "has Moore ever done a run on a comic that didn't feature a rape scene at some point? serious question" you actually meant "please validate my ignorance"
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 July 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
He's matured into the rape fantasist we all know and love.
― Neil Jung (WmC), Thursday, 12 July 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe only after he started working in American comics then...
― Matt M., Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
America brings out the rapist in everyone. Just ask Tosh.
― EZ Snappin, Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
Peter Tosh is a rapist?!
― Tuomas, Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:32 (twelve years ago) link
"Legalize it"
― Godzilla vs. Rodan Rodannadanna (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
Peter Tork is a papist!?!
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 12 July 2012 20:55 (twelve years ago) link
No rape in Killing Joke, just the jolly breaking of a woman's spine.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 12 July 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
And of course the rape in LoEG is gay, and the raypee is invisible so it doesn't count.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 12 July 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
i thought invisible guy was the perp?
― Philip Nunez, Thursday, 12 July 2012 21:53 (twelve years ago) link
Nah, Mr Hyde totally bum raped the Invisible Man. To death.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 12 July 2012 22:04 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but the Invisible Man was the original rapist
― Number None, Thursday, 12 July 2012 22:10 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, he's raping merrily away in the girls' boarding school
for a long time was unavailable in the US
lol when
― ¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Thursday, 12 July 2012 22:25 (twelve years ago) link
in the 80s when I was a kid and couldn't buy them at comic book stores
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 03:24 (twelve years ago) link
Mina gets assaulted in the first or second issue of the first series. Or at least threatened to be assaulted by swarthy foreigners.
― Matt M., Friday, 13 July 2012 04:03 (twelve years ago) link
these were out in TPBs from 1986 which iirc was the 80s
― ¥╡*ٍ*╞¥ (sic), Friday, 13 July 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
Am I the only one who felt rape was totally implied in that scene, and the only reason Moore didn't explicitly use it was because it was a mainstream DC book and a major character?
― Tuomas, Friday, 13 July 2012 06:33 (twelve years ago) link
Yes, probably.
― Desire is withered away from the sons of men! (aldo), Friday, 13 July 2012 06:49 (twelve years ago) link
if you're trying to tell me that I saw them in stores when I was a kid you are sadly mistaken
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 15:47 (twelve years ago) link
I think I saw some Maxwell the Magic Cat strips reprinted in a Comics Journal interview story once tho
There was some US floppy which was printing Bojeffries as a backup every issue back then. Dalgoda? I also remember being able to get D.R. and Quinch p easily.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Friday, 13 July 2012 15:53 (twelve years ago) link
Dalgoda yes. I have those - they are good! I was buying pretty much everything with Alan Moore's name on it around that time. If I had seen Halo Jones or Captain Britain TPBs I would have bought them. I did not.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
DR and Quinch was reprinted in Warrior... iirc? (along with Miracleman and the OG b&W V for Vendetta)
warpsmith and skizz I don't think I ever even heard of. I just think it's weird to act like these were widely-read/widely available on a par with Swamp Thing/Miracleman/V for Vendetta etc. they strike me as pretty stereotypical insignificant early work
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:03 (twelve years ago) link
stereotypicalLY
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
I bought MAXWELL THE MAGIC CAT collections in the mid-80s, but they only showed up in really big comic shops (only saw them in a couple across all of Southern California.) Moore could sell superheroes, but strips were another matter.
― Matt M., Friday, 13 July 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
When was 2000 A.D. Monthly coming out in the US? I think that's where I read a lot of this stuff.
― Lewis Apparition (Jon Lewis), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:04 (twelve years ago) link
My LCS in Memphis had Maxwell collections, but I passed on them. I think the only Warpsmith story I've seen was one in the Atomeka anthology A1. (The Bojeffries stories in those were better anyway.)
― Neil Jung (WmC), Friday, 13 July 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
(warrior #4 story here as jpgs http://thewarriorscomicbookden.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/saga-of-swamp-thing-32-greatest-comic.html plus links to cbr copies of that and the rest, i think)
― koogs, Friday, 13 July 2012 17:07 (twelve years ago) link
((not tried links, required sign-up, maybe expired))
wtf def never seen that before!
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 13 July 2012 17:29 (twelve years ago) link
warrior stuff really wasn't readily available in the US even through the 90's. I mean you COULD find it but it didn't even really trumpet the fact that it was moore and I did hunt it down over the years.
― This clam, stranded on someone’s floor, is trying to dig itself (forksclovetofu), Friday, 13 July 2012 22:13 (twelve years ago) link
the fact that these comics were or weren't available in america is BESIDE THE POINT. Shakey asked: are there any runs of comics by alan moore w/out rape in them, and i offered a few examples of runs of comics by alan moore w/out rape in them. i'm sure there are others. now i think WmC raises the interesting question of why this troubling repetition of rape as theme and scene - and i agree it exists in many of the examples cited - was far less common during the early part of alan's (mostly british) career. and i'm sure there are many gd answers - the american comics were less stringently edited, over time it became an idee fixee, whatev - that don't involve the merits or o/wise of euro comic distribution in america. that's all.
i managed to acquire some v nice smokeable hemp produce earlier on today which is why i'm up too late discussing this stuff but now i shld go to bed. gnight ilcers.
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 13 July 2012 22:30 (twelve years ago) link