Alan Moore!

or halo jones

or top ten

Well there's statutory in Top Ten. And the whole teen sidekick prostitution ring thing.

plus SMAX has rape, and that's kinda Top Ten

so basically all the early British stuff which I've never read and for a long time was unavailable in the US is rape-free. glad we cleared that up

oh right, didn't realise when you said "has Moore ever done a run on a comic that didn't feature a rape scene at some point? serious question" you actually meant "please validate my ignorance"

He's matured into the rape fantasist we all know and love.

lol

Maybe only after he started working in American comics then...

America brings out the rapist in everyone. Just ask Tosh.

Peter Tosh is a rapist?!

"Legalize it"

Peter Tork is a papist!?!

No rape in Killing Joke, just the jolly breaking of a woman's spine.

And of course the rape in LoEG is gay, and the raypee is invisible so it doesn't count.

i thought invisible guy was the perp?

Nah, Mr Hyde totally bum raped the Invisible Man. To death.

yeah but the Invisible Man was the original rapist

yeah, he's raping merrily away in the girls' boarding school

for a long time was unavailable in the US

lol when

in the 80s when I was a kid and couldn't buy them at comic book stores

Mina gets assaulted in the first or second issue of the first series. Or at least threatened to be assaulted by swarthy foreigners.

in the 80s when I was a kid and couldn't buy them at comic book stores

these were out in TPBs from 1986 which iirc was the 80s

No rape in Killing Joke, just the jolly breaking of a woman's spine.

Am I the only one who felt rape was totally implied in that scene, and the only reason Moore didn't explicitly use it was because it was a mainstream DC book and a major character?

Yes, probably.

these were out in TPBs from 1986 which iirc was the 80s

if you're trying to tell me that I saw them in stores when I was a kid you are sadly mistaken

I think I saw some Maxwell the Magic Cat strips reprinted in a Comics Journal interview story once tho

There was some US floppy which was printing Bojeffries as a backup every issue back then. Dalgoda? I also remember being able to get D.R. and Quinch p easily.

Dalgoda yes. I have those - they are good! I was buying pretty much everything with Alan Moore's name on it around that time. If I had seen Halo Jones or Captain Britain TPBs I would have bought them. I did not.

DR and Quinch was reprinted in Warrior... iirc? (along with Miracleman and the OG b&W V for Vendetta)

warpsmith and skizz I don't think I ever even heard of. I just think it's weird to act like these were widely-read/widely available on a par with Swamp Thing/Miracleman/V for Vendetta etc. they strike me as pretty stereotypical insignificant early work

stereotypicalLY

I bought MAXWELL THE MAGIC CAT collections in the mid-80s, but they only showed up in really big comic shops (only saw them in a couple across all of Southern California.) Moore could sell superheroes, but strips were another matter.

When was 2000 A.D. Monthly coming out in the US? I think that's where I read a lot of this stuff.

My LCS in Memphis had Maxwell collections, but I passed on them. I think the only Warpsmith story I've seen was one in the Atomeka anthology A1. (The Bojeffries stories in those were better anyway.)

(warrior #4 story here as jpgs http://thewarriorscomicbookden.blogspot.co.uk/2009/08/saga-of-swamp-thing-32-greatest-comic.html plus links to cbr copies of that and the rest, i think)

((not tried links, required sign-up, maybe expired))

wtf def never seen that before!

warrior stuff really wasn't readily available in the US even through the 90's. I mean you COULD find it but it didn't even really trumpet the fact that it was moore and I did hunt it down over the years.

the fact that these comics were or weren't available in america is BESIDE THE POINT. Shakey asked: are there any runs of comics by alan moore w/out rape in them, and i offered a few examples of runs of comics by alan moore w/out rape in them. i'm sure there are others. now i think WmC raises the interesting question of why this troubling repetition of rape as theme and scene - and i agree it exists in many of the examples cited - was far less common during the early part of alan's (mostly british) career. and i'm sure there are many gd answers - the american comics were less stringently edited, over time it became an idee fixee, whatev - that don't involve the merits or o/wise of euro comic distribution in america. that's all.

i managed to acquire some v nice smokeable hemp produce earlier on today which is why i'm up too late discussing this stuff but now i shld go to bed. gnight ilcers.

I guess I'm just as dismissive of that early stuff as Alan is lol, it's a pretty small/largely insignificant part of his ouevre imho, things he did before his true rape-y interests came to the fore haha

anything i havent read is insignificant - Shakey Mo Collir.e

you forgot the all-important 'lol' or 'haha'

if you're trying to tell me that I saw them in stores when I was a kid you are sadly mistaken

lol you have gone from "this never existed" to "ok it existed but it was never available in the US" to "so it existed and was available in the US but I never saw it and therefore you're STILL WRONG and it's NO GOOD ANYWAY I bet"

DR and Quinch was reprinted in Warrior... iirc? (along with Miracleman and the OG b&W V for Vendetta)

you r very i

weren't the earlier strips aimed at a younger market? what was the average age of someone buying 2000ad? warrior?

The demographic of 2000AD at that time(early eighties) was boys aged 8 - 14, I think? I couldn't say the exact age range for Warrior, but it was definitely aimed at a much older, "mature" audience. I guess if they were hoping to appeal to readers that grew up with the original Marvelman, that would put it at mid-twenties to thirties? Maybe.

this has gone oddly like that ilm thread where someone asked for a top 100 songs about rape

lol you have gone from "this never existed" to "ok it existed but it was never available in the US" to "so it existed and was available in the US but I never saw it and therefore you're STILL WRONG and it's NO GOOD ANYWAY I bet"

I love this ILX tactic where posters misrepresent what was actually said to score points CLASSIC

Ward is OTM that the availability of this stuff is largely irrelevant, my only point in this thread derail was that Moore's non-rapey material predates his prominence - why that is is a more interesting question but who cares about that let's play collection-stack-measuring internet pedant instead

my suspicion is that this relies on something like 'the reification of traditions of popular fiction' (oy) but don't ask me to make that idea work - like, that we now arrive at a place where you can write the league of extraordinary gentlemen says essentially bad things about our culture, in ways that moore may or may not be aware to the extent he is complicit in

-

try and imagine loeg '12 with the cast of twilight, harry potter and law and order: svu

-

hey i was almost right!

anyway, it's funny that the last part of century came out the same week as 50 shades of grey became the best selling commercial object ever, because there is absolutely nothing that separates them