My CBR Shame

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Yeah, not being able to check as you download can be a hassle, but I haven't found it to be a big problem

Jordan I use CDisplay to view the files: http://www.geocities.com/davidayton/CDisplay

Stewart, Friday, 24 September 2004 08:48 (twenty years ago) link

Having, shamefully, far too much experience with BitTorrent, I can only say: Use Azureus as your BT client if it at all works for you. You can tweak things a /lot/, and it's all pretty intuitive. It lets you pick and choose which files you want to download from within a torrent, and even lets you set a higher priority to one vs. another. And you can open an individual file as long as it's complete. Though it auto-allocates disk space for the files by default, so you have to tell it not to if you have more of a problem with space than waiting for the DL to complete.

A. Lurker, Saturday, 25 September 2004 23:16 (twenty years ago) link

Another option, for posters whose ISPs don't give them access to binaries Usenet groups: usenetbinaries.com. Accounts with download limits ("2MB - 5MB" per day, I don't know how they determine where in that window you sit) are free. Looks good so far.

(I'm using it to get the Opus strip, which isn't carried in any local paper here.)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago) link

Hey! Following up Tep's .cbr gEEEEEeemail idea - I am up for it! Hit me backchannel (one more time), and we can start swapping! Wahey!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, how do we want to do that? Is there a way to do like address groups in Gmail so we can just send a msg to "ILC" and email everyone without typing in all the addresses? We should put a list together of everyone who wants in, and everyone can just email the group whenever they get something.

(That's the easiest way to do it, isn't it? No one would be using their bandwidth without meaning to, since it's webmail...)

Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link

4. ULTIMATE FANTASTIC FOUR #1

Oh that I have lived to see the day that Marvel puts out stories like this. Plenty happens in UFF#1 but there is no conflict at all (Reed gets his head flushed down the toilet but recovers nicely), nothing except getting Reed from A to B in the most wish-fulfilling style possible. This is my first encounter with Bendis (though I don't know if his style was modified here) and it's pretty annoying, all the cod-naturalism grates, but it does make for a slick read that doesn't talk down to you. Cute enough to make me want to steal the next few issues too. But do I prefer the old-school storytelling Marvel? LET'S SEE.....!

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:54 (twenty years ago) link

BORING ADDENDUM: UFF #1 is a Millar / Bendis collaboration, and not the best place to start if you want Bendis at his best / worst. Anything that really sucked about the first 6 issues of UFF, BTW, I attributed to the former (because I'm like that).

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:57 (twenty years ago) link

5. SQUADRON SUPREME #1-2

My God time has been unkind to this. Squadron Supreme used to be - entirely seriously - held up on some comics newsgroups as Marvel's equivalent of Watchmen. The first issue takes place AFTER some huge story which happened in some other title (God knows where, they don't tell you) and proceeds to its set-up as directly and bludgeoningly as possible, with the help of various giant captions. Said set-up of course is "superheroes try to create utopia but instead become FASCISTS". Its power is somewhat dimmed by the fact that the same superheroes had just started a world war and also by the fact that like the Krays they only hurt their own - the entire 12-issue series is just a series of fights with 'ethical difference' replacing 'misunderstanding' as the pretext. Godawful.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:09 (twenty years ago) link

6. RUNAWAYS #1-#17

Also includes spidey discussion.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago) link

Yeah, but Tom, if you liked it, you'd just get annoyed with it for not minding its place.

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:12 (twenty years ago) link

SS also not helped by the fact that the Squadron's relationship with the JLA makes the Silver Surfer/Black Rider comparison seem a work of blinding originality. Which it is. Er.. Yes, makes the Identity Crisis/Identity Disc comparison etc.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:13 (twenty years ago) link

I remember Squadron Supreme as being grebt when I was smaller but was horrified by those issues (which I never read back then). I might re-read the rest.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:18 (twenty years ago) link

I like how Tom's (spot-on) Runaways post "includes" Spidey discussion the way the human body "includes" water.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:23 (twenty years ago) link

7. SENTINEL #1-7, #8-#11

Another one I pretty much liked. This is what 'decompression' means I take it, stories which should take maybe two issues taking six - but the story is a good one. I appreciate the way that actually things keep getting worse and worse for Our Hero but the comic stays breezy throughout. Liked most of the characters, rooted for OH at the same time as he does stupid things, very much appreciated the fact that the titular Sentinel is in no sense a 'reformed character', liked the moment of Authentic Crush Horror as OH asks crush out despite knowing she has a boyfriend to receive mortifying "I have a boyfriend" response. I can however see why it sold zero copies - this is not an ongoing series in any sense, the premise has a neat beginning middle and end. In the Old Days it would have been solicited as a four-issue mini, probably by Louise Simonson, and done respectably.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:32 (twenty years ago) link

Tom, this is supposed to be about RUB .cbrs, remember? Stop w/ the pleasantries!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:37 (twenty years ago) link

I apologise and will as penance this evening read the copy of X-Men: The End #1 I dl'ed.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:38 (twenty years ago) link

NO TOM NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:44 (twenty years ago) link

8. X-MEN: THE END VOL #1

There is ONE PANEL of this comic that's good, when a big space ship crashes onto a big alien city. One of the problems with Chris Claremont is that he would have LOVED to be George Lucas, he loves the idea that he is a widescreen space opera imagineer, but all his 'epic starfaring' stories are TOTAL BILGE because he won't generally shut his trap and let the art do the talking. And when he does, as in this one third of a page panel, it looks pretty good.

There are eighteen issues of this to come, it has very little to do with the X-Men so far except that it has the bloody Phoenix in it.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:23 (twenty years ago) link

9. SUPREME POWER #1

The Squadron Supreme again. The idea seems to be "OK, if DC won't do an Ultimate JLA, we will!". First issue is effectively downbeat story of 'realistic' approach to Superman's origin - bit gloomy but suspenseful. The editorial at the end is very funny indeed though in its "goodness knows how Roy Thomas came up with THESE characters!" tone. Also the tits-out costume for Power Princess raised a chuckle.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:27 (twenty years ago) link

That's JMS, right?

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:40 (twenty years ago) link

10. AMERICA VS THE JUSTICE SOCIETY #1

Couldn't actually finish this Roy Thomas archive-a-thon but if you do see it skip to the editorial page for a larff as Roy finally loses it and makes it plain that he writes comics purely and simply for people who know as much about comics as he does (i.e. EVERYTHING) and if you don't you can fuck off (sorry "you have no sense of history and I don't want you reading my comic" is a closer paraphrase). Evidence A in the "why the Crisis had to happen" pile.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link

11. SUPERMAN/BATMAN #1-6

Sort-of-good team-up comic goes completely off the rails as it becomes clear that the storyline is in place for DC to get rid of President Luthor before election year comes round. How best to do this? Through subtle yet punchy storytelling? NO NO NO. Instead let's have Luthor get hooked on Bane Venom and initiate hugely contrived anti-Superman initiative (viz - Superman is bringing a HUGE Kryptonite asteroid to Earth to kill us all, yes indeed because we know how much Superman likes that kryptonite, ahem) (OK actually maybe the population of the DCU don't know about kryptonite but it's still rub). Much glee as Luthor puts on his horrible pre-Crisis battlesuit and the Toyman creates a huge half-superman-half-batman Spaceship. These elements are meant to be proper Comics Fun i think but Jeph Loeb can't do 'fun', he can only do 'portentious' and lo the last few issues of this arc are horribly hard going.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 18 October 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago) link

My CBR non-shame is that I've read the first eight issues of She-Hulk. I will attempt to pay this forward by paying money for them at the comics shop this evening. They're great! The deadpan surrealism actually reminds me of early 2000AD like Ace Trucking Company (okay moreso in the section where she's acting as circuit court judge .. in spaaaaaace!) and the character touches remind me of PAD when he was great. The issue #5 that's up on Mile High is one of the less representative, as it's really not all about heroes vs villains.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:40 (twenty years ago) link

three weeks pass...
4 CDs of Defenders. Every issue, every series, crossovers, pre-Defenders appearances of major players, etc. Holy crap.

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 14 November 2004 17:45 (twenty years ago) link

Yep yep yep.

David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link

You got it too? :) I rationalized it as "I'm not trying to be greedy, it's not my fault there isn't a separate file for just the Headmen storyline."

Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link

I planned on sluggin' through the whole thing, but my interest began to lag right around the time of the 1st Avengers / Defenders x-over, so I've decided to just jump to the Gerber era & motor on from there. So far, no complaints.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:08 (twenty years ago) link

(Also, re: greed - I have D/Led nearly complete runs of the JLA / JSA bookses, Batman, Detective Comics, AND Captain America. I justified these thefts as "research", which would be legit if I ever wrote a damn thing.)

Did your Defenders D/L include some awful pre-Silver Age painted Sub-Mariner story (which probably first saw the light of day in some post-Marvels Prestige Format w/ the acetate cover)? I'm guessing it did - skip that & just read the Pasty Walker stuff twice instead.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:12 (twenty years ago) link

I think so, I haven't skimmed through it much yet except to skim through the later issues of Defenders and New Defenders just to go "I used to own that one, and that one, and that one" (brother with drug habit + vindictive ex + poor organizational skills + three cross-country moves = I have lost many more comics than I retain).

I'll still buy the Defenders Essentials and everything, so I figure the only utilitarian moral arguments are silent this time.

I'm almost tempted to call Gerber the Alan Moore of the title (in a Swamp Thingian sense), but even with Len Wein preceding him, I think that might be a little deceptive -- he didn't reinvent things that drastically, but he did set the standard for tone and content that everything post-Gerber is compared to, and the most frequent criticism of post-Gerber Defenders stuff usually comes down to "that's not how Gerber would have done it."

(Next download batch: FF!)

Tep (ktepi), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago) link

Oh yeah, I got those, too. Research is killer.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 15 November 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link

two months pass...
12. NIGHTCRAWLER #1

Here is what I know about Nightcrawler i) he is German, ii) he is a nice guy but he looks like a demon, iii) he likes pirates and derring-do. If I was writing a Nightcrawler comic I would probably stress iii) with ii) providing some light irony. In fact I remember reading a previous comic starring him which did just this. What I would not do is get him involved in stories about FAITH and THE OCCULT and other such COBBLERS because of him looking like a demon. And yes I know he's been written that way too at times. I think such stories are best avoided because they rarely go anywhere or say anything interesting, they turn the looks-like-a-demon thing into a bludgeon and also because only Steve Ditko ever had any idea how to plot magical fights well.

Anyway this storyline has him investigating a strange mystery involving murdered children. The murdered children are pretty gratuitous to be honest. The only clues are some cloven hoofprints and a supporting character who is so obviously the villain that you half expect Nightcrawler to be joined by Scooby Doo on this case. Clumsy stuff.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link

13 CAPTAIN AMERICA #1-2

As I just mentioned on The Brown Wedge, the level of basic competence in mainstream comics today is really impressive. This has good pacing, dialogue, striking art, tells its story without too many 'what's going on here?' moments. I quite like the way Captain A's impatient soldier mentality is being played up. This almost reads like an Ultimate comic, the same emphasis on SHIELD hypercompetence and militarism and 'real world' threats and situations. Good, solid stuff.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link

(The thread has moved away from its original purpose and is now just 'Tom reviews some comics he's too cheap to pay for, quickly')

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link

(Potentially) freat things I got from Santa Internet:

. Shehulk (which I went out and purchased immediately, and then bought the issues that I'll no doubt buy again in TPB - the system works!)
. Zenith
. Everything Grant Morrison has ever written, in fact.
. Including Zoids
. Jark Kirby's Eternals
. Suicide Squad
. Crisis on Infinite Earths
. The Maxx
. The Demon
. Jimmy Olsen
. Zot!
. Ultimate Fantastic Four
. Miracleman (including various different bits of #25)

Who's writing/drawing Captian America, Tom?

Not Andrew Farrell, for legal reasons (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Ed Brubaker is writing & Steve Epting is drawring (w/ Michael Lark on flashback duty starting w/ #2).

Not Tom (popshots75`), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link

Oooh, I don't think I've seen any of Michael Lark's art since Terminal City.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link

His Terminal City is terminally... well, I don't talk that kind of French, sir! The ink work is nice, but his coloring is dreadful -- his stuff on Gotham Central is a knockout, though.

Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Would Not Andrew not be sharing these in the slightest on the Hub, by any chance? Grant's Doctor Who stuff might be just the incentive I need to set it up.

Not me either (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I'm sharing a huge and ever increasing amount of comics including some of what not Andrew listed above on SLSK and on the hub, although I'm not on DC++ often. There're a couple really good hubs for comics listed in the public hub list too.

Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link

one month passes...
14. MILLENNIUM #1-8 (DC Comics; 1987-ish)

I find it strange how short my first bout of comics fandom really was - it seemed like it lasted for ages but was barely 2 years. I got into DC with Legends, read through Millennium and was out of it by the time Invasion came around. Millennium had two points - a) tell a big cosmic DC story, b) introduce an amazing group of New! Characters! It does the first a lot better than the second (the new characters became rubbish and short-lived superteam the New Guardians). It's an unusual crossover in that the core series has very little of the main action. The tie-ins are often actually important to the plot (especially the FITEs) which must have frustrated less deep-pocketed fans (I gobbled most of it up though at the time). In the main series you get a lot of superhero interaction, ruminations on What It All Means, a bit of plot and a lot of patented Englehart hippie tosh.

I was surprised at how much I enjoyed re-reading it. The central idea - one member in each superhero supporting cast is a sleeper agent - is ace, the villains are good until they go into space and everyone has to fight a huge yellow cartoon robot. The series suffers a bit from winding towards anticlimax about 2/3 of the way through. The philosophy is a little bit Eastern and a whole lot cobblers. The art is acquired taste Joe Staton but he handles the huge cast well. The new superheroes... well, less good. But as crossovers go it deserves rehabilitation.

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link

Millennium had two points

"OMG we're putting this out WEEKLY can you handle the excitement?"

kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link

15. LEGENDS #1-#6 (DC Comics: 1986-ish)

Legends was the first DC book I ever enjoyed and as such I could remember some bits pretty much off by heart, but even so re-reading it was probably a mistake - even at the time Len Wein's narrative didn't exactly seem sophisticated and 20 years on it's really clunky, sub-Claremontian at best (eg the repeated "What is the sound of the end of the world?" riff). Ostrander's plot doesn't exactly hold up to scrutiny either: alien televangelist seduces the world into hating heroes, OK this is fine, he has mental powers, but then the focus of this gets completely lost as a FITE is needed and giant Byrne robot dogs attack. Also the continual flicking between one hero and another is very bitty.

BUT none of this matters a WHIT compared to the overall purpose of the series which is to introduce wide-eyed new readers to the hottness of DC's super-universe. Reader, I was that reader (erm) and it worked fine for me. Legends in itself is bland (though I liked the Byrne art) but its main job was to launch DC's post-Crisis universe and it does that well. DC in the late 80s is probably my favourite publisher era ever and this is where it started so hats off. How many other crossovers launch spin-off series of the caliber of JLI, Suicide Squad and the Mike Baron Flash? Three months after the end of Legends DC Comics had gone from 0% of my 'pull list'* to about 60% and I can't argue with that maths.

*(not that that phrase meant anything to me at the time)

Tom (Groke), Sunday, 13 March 2005 12:42 (nineteen years ago) link

four months pass...
Recently (IE this morning) I've been reading Ocean, by Warren Ellis, art by Chris Sprouse and Karl Story. I was curious about what those million indie Ellis comics are like, and this is exactly like what I thought it would be: Spider Jerusalem in space, meeting sarky good guys and bad guys and pwning them IN SPACE! One of the intereting things is that this pseudo-Spider (black, goatee, sharp suit) bears more than a casual resemblance to Samuel L. Jackson. Nothing wrong with a bit of easy characterisation (the same trick works really well in The Ultimates), but there can be problems with nicking the visage of the greatest living actor. For all that he will appear in almost anything, he plays variations on the same character in all of them, and it's not a character likely to exclaim regularly how much he hates everyone.

As regards the rest, big explosions, love/hate relationship with technology ("What's that?" "A book" "Is that what they used to look like?"), and regular everyone fancies our bald hero antics. So no surprises but I wasn't really looking for some.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link

Actually, I got more of a young Danny Glover vibe from the guy.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link

it is obv supposed to be Billy Ocean - the clue is in the title!

Mark C (Markco), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Subtitle for the TPB: Get Out Of My Dreams (Get Into My Space Station)

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh man, I love Sprouse. He did great fill-ins for Giffen on the Legion way back in the day.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

I've d/led the first few issues of the current Aquaman series. I kinda like it. Hey, is it by the same guy who wrote my beloved Question miniseries?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link

I actually bought Genesis (mainly 'cos of the JLA "Rock of Ages" tie in) Boy, did it suck. iirc Byrne wrote it and a blind man with neither hands nor a central nervous system did the art. I think they cost me 10p a pop and I'm guessing that my local Forbidden Planet really saw me coming that day

Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link

Rick Veitch wrote the first year of the current AQUAMAN book, Huk. Will Pfeiffer took over later on, and is the current writer.

I'm still sorta ambivalent on the QUESTION mini that he wrote. A little too wandery and singsong poetry for the character, but the art was So Pretty.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link

i wouldn't mind!

like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link

One very low-priority goal I've had is to collect every Marvel from FF#1 until Shooter took over as Ed-in-Chief... but most of these are so bad. Even the early Kirby ones. I probably won't keep them.

it's not arugula science (WilliamC), Friday, 19 June 2015 12:04 (nine years ago) link

Yeah, Sgt. Fury is surprisingly good. Among the better '60s Marvel stuff.

I have achieved your low-priority goal electronically and am very nearly there with physical reprints of same. Speaking of Shooter, though, one of my many shameful CBR acquisitions is the complete output of Defiant Comics. Top that.

Feeding My Whole Family With A Pack Of Taco Shells (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 June 2015 12:22 (nine years ago) link

six years pass...

I couldn't find the thread where somebody told the board about L!br@ry G3n3sis, so this will do -- I just discovered a new (to me) site called Re@d A11 C0mics.

http://readallcomics.com/

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link

Thanks, I read the first three issues of The Blue Flame and some Justice League Europe. I felt dirty but good

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link

The site makes it much easier for me to Just Fucking Read The Comic rather than store the file on my computer and put off reading it forever

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link

TY WmC - I went looking for old letter columns in issues of Marvel's The Champions (for 'research' purposes obv) but the scans I checked on that site were all from later printings with recolouring, no ads, bullpen bulletin etc. Fine if you just need to read the story - but I like all the surrounding matter as much as the strips themselves (which always look better shot directly from the comics, imho)

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link

I know this isn't the thread for such things but the omnibi (at least the ones I've bought) have been pretty good lately about including such ancillary material of late. No non-house ads, obvs, but everything else.

Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link

i am continuing my shameful daily metadata entry for my 150k+ megaarchive, which is a terrible OCD project i've been doing on and off for years dependent on my stress levels... more when i'm anxiety ridden. 3/4 of the way through inputting 7 or 8 meticulously managed bits of archiving info per file, for about 1M handtyped details! Oh boy, this is useless! Cheaper than medication likely.

is any of this data that could also be usefully added to the GCD, if you want to feel like your labor has a communal benefit?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link

or vice versa, any way of 'leveraging' that data to save yourself some work?

koogs, Thursday, 29 July 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link

i am using a horribly outdated reader unfortunately and i would need a tech savvy person's work to help me figure this out. I'm on Ehon. Anybody wanna hold my hand?

Marvel Unlimited needs you forks

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 29 July 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link


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