Jordan I use CDisplay to view the files: http://www.geocities.com/davidayton/CDisplay
― Stewart, Friday, 24 September 2004 08:48 (twenty years ago) link
― A. Lurker, Saturday, 25 September 2004 23:16 (twenty years ago) link
(I'm using it to get the Opus strip, which isn't carried in any local paper here.)
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:56 (twenty years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 30 September 2004 16:59 (twenty years ago) link
(That's the easiest way to do it, isn't it? No one would be using their bandwidth without meaning to, since it's webmail...)
― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 30 September 2004 17:09 (twenty years ago) link
Oh that I have lived to see the day that Marvel puts out stories like this. Plenty happens in UFF#1 but there is no conflict at all (Reed gets his head flushed down the toilet but recovers nicely), nothing except getting Reed from A to B in the most wish-fulfilling style possible. This is my first encounter with Bendis (though I don't know if his style was modified here) and it's pretty annoying, all the cod-naturalism grates, but it does make for a slick read that doesn't talk down to you. Cute enough to make me want to steal the next few issues too. But do I prefer the old-school storytelling Marvel? LET'S SEE.....!
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:54 (twenty years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 11:57 (twenty years ago) link
My God time has been unkind to this. Squadron Supreme used to be - entirely seriously - held up on some comics newsgroups as Marvel's equivalent of Watchmen. The first issue takes place AFTER some huge story which happened in some other title (God knows where, they don't tell you) and proceeds to its set-up as directly and bludgeoningly as possible, with the help of various giant captions. Said set-up of course is "superheroes try to create utopia but instead become FASCISTS". Its power is somewhat dimmed by the fact that the same superheroes had just started a world war and also by the fact that like the Krays they only hurt their own - the entire 12-issue series is just a series of fights with 'ethical difference' replacing 'misunderstanding' as the pretext. Godawful.
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:09 (twenty years ago) link
Also includes spidey discussion.
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:13 (twenty years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:18 (twenty years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:23 (twenty years ago) link
Another one I pretty much liked. This is what 'decompression' means I take it, stories which should take maybe two issues taking six - but the story is a good one. I appreciate the way that actually things keep getting worse and worse for Our Hero but the comic stays breezy throughout. Liked most of the characters, rooted for OH at the same time as he does stupid things, very much appreciated the fact that the titular Sentinel is in no sense a 'reformed character', liked the moment of Authentic Crush Horror as OH asks crush out despite knowing she has a boyfriend to receive mortifying "I have a boyfriend" response. I can however see why it sold zero copies - this is not an ongoing series in any sense, the premise has a neat beginning middle and end. In the Old Days it would have been solicited as a four-issue mini, probably by Louise Simonson, and done respectably.
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:32 (twenty years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:38 (twenty years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 4 October 2004 12:44 (twenty years ago) link
There is ONE PANEL of this comic that's good, when a big space ship crashes onto a big alien city. One of the problems with Chris Claremont is that he would have LOVED to be George Lucas, he loves the idea that he is a widescreen space opera imagineer, but all his 'epic starfaring' stories are TOTAL BILGE because he won't generally shut his trap and let the art do the talking. And when he does, as in this one third of a page panel, it looks pretty good.
There are eighteen issues of this to come, it has very little to do with the X-Men so far except that it has the bloody Phoenix in it.
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:23 (twenty years ago) link
The Squadron Supreme again. The idea seems to be "OK, if DC won't do an Ultimate JLA, we will!". First issue is effectively downbeat story of 'realistic' approach to Superman's origin - bit gloomy but suspenseful. The editorial at the end is very funny indeed though in its "goodness knows how Roy Thomas came up with THESE characters!" tone. Also the tits-out costume for Power Princess raised a chuckle.
― Tom (Groke), Friday, 8 October 2004 10:27 (twenty years ago) link
― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 8 October 2004 11:40 (twenty years ago) link
Couldn't actually finish this Roy Thomas archive-a-thon but if you do see it skip to the editorial page for a larff as Roy finally loses it and makes it plain that he writes comics purely and simply for people who know as much about comics as he does (i.e. EVERYTHING) and if you don't you can fuck off (sorry "you have no sense of history and I don't want you reading my comic" is a closer paraphrase). Evidence A in the "why the Crisis had to happen" pile.
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 18 October 2004 15:58 (twenty years ago) link
Sort-of-good team-up comic goes completely off the rails as it becomes clear that the storyline is in place for DC to get rid of President Luthor before election year comes round. How best to do this? Through subtle yet punchy storytelling? NO NO NO. Instead let's have Luthor get hooked on Bane Venom and initiate hugely contrived anti-Superman initiative (viz - Superman is bringing a HUGE Kryptonite asteroid to Earth to kill us all, yes indeed because we know how much Superman likes that kryptonite, ahem) (OK actually maybe the population of the DCU don't know about kryptonite but it's still rub). Much glee as Luthor puts on his horrible pre-Crisis battlesuit and the Toyman creates a huge half-superman-half-batman Spaceship. These elements are meant to be proper Comics Fun i think but Jeph Loeb can't do 'fun', he can only do 'portentious' and lo the last few issues of this arc are horribly hard going.
― Tom (Groke), Monday, 18 October 2004 16:03 (twenty years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 22 October 2004 12:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 14 November 2004 17:45 (twenty years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 14 November 2004 21:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 14 November 2004 22:06 (twenty years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:08 (twenty years ago) link
Did your Defenders D/L include some awful pre-Silver Age painted Sub-Mariner story (which probably first saw the light of day in some post-Marvels Prestige Format w/ the acetate cover)? I'm guessing it did - skip that & just read the Pasty Walker stuff twice instead.
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 15 November 2004 06:12 (twenty years ago) link
I'll still buy the Defenders Essentials and everything, so I figure the only utilitarian moral arguments are silent this time.
I'm almost tempted to call Gerber the Alan Moore of the title (in a Swamp Thingian sense), but even with Len Wein preceding him, I think that might be a little deceptive -- he didn't reinvent things that drastically, but he did set the standard for tone and content that everything post-Gerber is compared to, and the most frequent criticism of post-Gerber Defenders stuff usually comes down to "that's not how Gerber would have done it."
(Next download batch: FF!)
― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 15 November 2004 13:13 (twenty years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 15 November 2004 14:54 (twenty years ago) link
Here is what I know about Nightcrawler i) he is German, ii) he is a nice guy but he looks like a demon, iii) he likes pirates and derring-do. If I was writing a Nightcrawler comic I would probably stress iii) with ii) providing some light irony. In fact I remember reading a previous comic starring him which did just this. What I would not do is get him involved in stories about FAITH and THE OCCULT and other such COBBLERS because of him looking like a demon. And yes I know he's been written that way too at times. I think such stories are best avoided because they rarely go anywhere or say anything interesting, they turn the looks-like-a-demon thing into a bludgeon and also because only Steve Ditko ever had any idea how to plot magical fights well.
Anyway this storyline has him investigating a strange mystery involving murdered children. The murdered children are pretty gratuitous to be honest. The only clues are some cloven hoofprints and a supporting character who is so obviously the villain that you half expect Nightcrawler to be joined by Scooby Doo on this case. Clumsy stuff.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:28 (nineteen years ago) link
As I just mentioned on The Brown Wedge, the level of basic competence in mainstream comics today is really impressive. This has good pacing, dialogue, striking art, tells its story without too many 'what's going on here?' moments. I quite like the way Captain A's impatient soldier mentality is being played up. This almost reads like an Ultimate comic, the same emphasis on SHIELD hypercompetence and militarism and 'real world' threats and situations. Good, solid stuff.
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:34 (nineteen years ago) link
― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 January 2005 23:36 (nineteen years ago) link
. Shehulk (which I went out and purchased immediately, and then bought the issues that I'll no doubt buy again in TPB - the system works!). Zenith. Everything Grant Morrison has ever written, in fact.. Including Zoids. Jark Kirby's Eternals. Suicide Squad. Crisis on Infinite Earths. The Maxx. The Demon. Jimmy Olsen. Zot!. Ultimate Fantastic Four. Miracleman (including various different bits of #25)
Who's writing/drawing Captian America, Tom?
― Not Andrew Farrell, for legal reasons (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:13 (nineteen years ago) link
― Not Tom (popshots75`), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:16 (nineteen years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:22 (nineteen years ago) link
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 01:44 (nineteen years ago) link
― Not me either (aldo_cowpat), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 07:39 (nineteen years ago) link
― Dan I. (Dan I.), Wednesday, 19 January 2005 09:21 (nineteen years ago) link
I find it strange how short my first bout of comics fandom really was - it seemed like it lasted for ages but was barely 2 years. I got into DC with Legends, read through Millennium and was out of it by the time Invasion came around. Millennium had two points - a) tell a big cosmic DC story, b) introduce an amazing group of New! Characters! It does the first a lot better than the second (the new characters became rubbish and short-lived superteam the New Guardians). It's an unusual crossover in that the core series has very little of the main action. The tie-ins are often actually important to the plot (especially the FITEs) which must have frustrated less deep-pocketed fans (I gobbled most of it up though at the time). In the main series you get a lot of superhero interaction, ruminations on What It All Means, a bit of plot and a lot of patented Englehart hippie tosh.
I was surprised at how much I enjoyed re-reading it. The central idea - one member in each superhero supporting cast is a sleeper agent - is ace, the villains are good until they go into space and everyone has to fight a huge yellow cartoon robot. The series suffers a bit from winding towards anticlimax about 2/3 of the way through. The philosophy is a little bit Eastern and a whole lot cobblers. The art is acquired taste Joe Staton but he handles the huge cast well. The new superheroes... well, less good. But as crossovers go it deserves rehabilitation.
― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 6 March 2005 23:13 (nineteen years ago) link
"OMG we're putting this out WEEKLY can you handle the excitement?"
― kit brash (kit brash), Monday, 7 March 2005 23:40 (nineteen years ago) link
Legends was the first DC book I ever enjoyed and as such I could remember some bits pretty much off by heart, but even so re-reading it was probably a mistake - even at the time Len Wein's narrative didn't exactly seem sophisticated and 20 years on it's really clunky, sub-Claremontian at best (eg the repeated "What is the sound of the end of the world?" riff). Ostrander's plot doesn't exactly hold up to scrutiny either: alien televangelist seduces the world into hating heroes, OK this is fine, he has mental powers, but then the focus of this gets completely lost as a FITE is needed and giant Byrne robot dogs attack. Also the continual flicking between one hero and another is very bitty.
BUT none of this matters a WHIT compared to the overall purpose of the series which is to introduce wide-eyed new readers to the hottness of DC's super-universe. Reader, I was that reader (erm) and it worked fine for me. Legends in itself is bland (though I liked the Byrne art) but its main job was to launch DC's post-Crisis universe and it does that well. DC in the late 80s is probably my favourite publisher era ever and this is where it started so hats off. How many other crossovers launch spin-off series of the caliber of JLI, Suicide Squad and the Mike Baron Flash? Three months after the end of Legends DC Comics had gone from 0% of my 'pull list'* to about 60% and I can't argue with that maths.
*(not that that phrase meant anything to me at the time)
― Tom (Groke), Sunday, 13 March 2005 12:42 (nineteen years ago) link
As regards the rest, big explosions, love/hate relationship with technology ("What's that?" "A book" "Is that what they used to look like?"), and regular everyone fancies our bald hero antics. So no surprises but I wasn't really looking for some.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 12:55 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 13:12 (nineteen years ago) link
― Mark C (Markco), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 13:54 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 14:50 (nineteen years ago) link
― Stone Monkey (Stone Monkey), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 15:26 (nineteen years ago) link
I'm still sorta ambivalent on the QUESTION mini that he wrote. A little too wandery and singsong poetry for the character, but the art was So Pretty.
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Wednesday, 27 July 2005 16:51 (nineteen years ago) link
i wouldn't mind!
― like a giraffe of nah (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 18 June 2015 20:55 (nine years ago) link
One very low-priority goal I've had is to collect every Marvel from FF#1 until Shooter took over as Ed-in-Chief... but most of these are so bad. Even the early Kirby ones. I probably won't keep them.
― it's not arugula science (WilliamC), Friday, 19 June 2015 12:04 (nine years ago) link
Yeah, Sgt. Fury is surprisingly good. Among the better '60s Marvel stuff.
I have achieved your low-priority goal electronically and am very nearly there with physical reprints of same. Speaking of Shooter, though, one of my many shameful CBR acquisitions is the complete output of Defiant Comics. Top that.
― Feeding My Whole Family With A Pack Of Taco Shells (Old Lunch), Friday, 19 June 2015 12:22 (nine years ago) link
I couldn't find the thread where somebody told the board about L!br@ry G3n3sis, so this will do -- I just discovered a new (to me) site called Re@d A11 C0mics.
http://readallcomics.com/
― Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Thursday, 29 July 2021 02:56 (three years ago) link
Thanks, I read the first three issues of The Blue Flame and some Justice League Europe. I felt dirty but good
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:21 (three years ago) link
The site makes it much easier for me to Just Fucking Read The Comic rather than store the file on my computer and put off reading it forever
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:22 (three years ago) link
TY WmC - I went looking for old letter columns in issues of Marvel's The Champions (for 'research' purposes obv) but the scans I checked on that site were all from later printings with recolouring, no ads, bullpen bulletin etc. Fine if you just need to read the story - but I like all the surrounding matter as much as the strips themselves (which always look better shot directly from the comics, imho)
― Ward Fowler, Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:34 (three years ago) link
I know this isn't the thread for such things but the omnibi (at least the ones I've bought) have been pretty good lately about including such ancillary material of late. No non-house ads, obvs, but everything else.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Thursday, 29 July 2021 15:37 (three years ago) link
i am continuing my shameful daily metadata entry for my 150k+ megaarchive, which is a terrible OCD project i've been doing on and off for years dependent on my stress levels... more when i'm anxiety ridden. 3/4 of the way through inputting 7 or 8 meticulously managed bits of archiving info per file, for about 1M handtyped details! Oh boy, this is useless! Cheaper than medication likely.
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:19 (three years ago) link
is any of this data that could also be usefully added to the GCD, if you want to feel like your labor has a communal benefit?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 29 July 2021 16:46 (three years ago) link
or vice versa, any way of 'leveraging' that data to save yourself some work?
― koogs, Thursday, 29 July 2021 17:19 (three years ago) link
i am using a horribly outdated reader unfortunately and i would need a tech savvy person's work to help me figure this out. I'm on Ehon. Anybody wanna hold my hand?
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 29 July 2021 19:27 (three years ago) link
Marvel Unlimited needs you forks
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 29 July 2021 20:32 (three years ago) link