Kieron Gillen talking about this a while back.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 24 April 2013 10:44 (eleven years ago) link
moore did some crude storyboards for one of the Spawn miniseries he did, and i remember some of them being published in the back of an issue. i cant remember if it was in lieu of or in addition to his usual descriptions. the finished panels mimicked them pretty closely
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, 24 April 2013 17:21 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, he didn't do the usual level of description for that stuff, as he doubted the ability of the artists to read it.
― just a dorp in the scrooge vault (sic), Thursday, 25 April 2013 03:09 (eleven years ago) link
haha really?
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Friday, 26 April 2013 08:32 (eleven years ago) link
I may be reading slightly into him saying he didn't think they'd bother
― just a dorp in the scrooge vault (sic), Friday, 26 April 2013 10:48 (eleven years ago) link
but not unfairly, I dare say
― just a dorp in the scrooge vault (sic), Friday, 26 April 2013 10:49 (eleven years ago) link
re-reading this most recent volume what irritates me most is the paper-thin plot machinations. why does Janni go to the south pole? bored. oh, okay, great central dramatic conflict there.
― four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 13 May 2013 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
Bumped as the final, last ever, definitely no more issue is about to drop.
Tempest has been a fun exercise but little more. Some of the parts almost feel like reprints - there was a Gloriana play in a previous volume, I know - but I suppose the intent (?) of ripping 20c comics apart is pretty much achieved.
― Elitist cheese photos (aldo), Monday, 20 May 2019 10:51 (five years ago) link
was re-reading the Traveller's Almanac from volume 2 and noticed a reference to Mina's visit to a certain beekeeper, which is depicted in the very last issue of the Tempest. The level of detail in the whole series is a big part of the appeal, even if it did feel like it was running on fumes for the last bits.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 3 January 2020 20:39 (four years ago) link
Diminishing returns after the first one. Still good through Black Dossier.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 January 2020 20:49 (four years ago) link
the only stuff I couldn't be bothered with were the standalone Janni books - the rest is great imo
― Οὖτις, Friday, 3 January 2020 20:52 (four years ago) link
Volume III is not good.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 January 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link
I like the 1969 volume quite a bit. Art, in general, goes downhill a bit.
― Οὖτις, Friday, 3 January 2020 21:35 (four years ago) link
the 1969 volume is okay. The last volume though... that's a mess.
― EZ Snappin, Friday, 3 January 2020 22:13 (four years ago) link
def too much Harry Potter
― Οὖτις, Friday, 3 January 2020 22:56 (four years ago) link
imo Moore should’ve quit after the first two volumes: the first series is a fun ripping yarn; the second series is a creepy undercutting watchmen version of the first, and it all comes together for a rousing anticlimax.
Then all the subsequent volumes take the same “do you see?????” approach as vol 2, except less fun, and Iain fucking Sinclair turns up and it’s all “what if Harry Potter zapped James Bond with his penis in the style of 2000s Eightball” and shut up Alan
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 3 January 2020 23:46 (four years ago) link
Agreed. Some of the post volume II stuff was decent enough, but volume III gradually became like a shallow parody of what was good about the earlier material, so I have no interest to even try volume IV.What was the last truly great comic Moore wrote, anyway? The finished version of Lost Girls, which came out in 2006? Has he done any good comics since then?
― Tuomas, Saturday, 4 January 2020 00:19 (four years ago) link
I loved providence. It got wonky at the end (doesn’t he always?) but here’s some good stuff there.
― dan selzer, Saturday, 4 January 2020 00:58 (four years ago) link
Has he done any good comics since then?
he wrote and drew Astounding Weird Penises
(I thought the latest LOEG was the best use of the comic book format of any of them)
Providence has a rep but I won't give Christensen money, and from what I've seen the cartooning is bad and the lettering inept
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Saturday, 4 January 2020 02:17 (four years ago) link
I liked the art. The lettering was occasionally hard to read. Don't know who Christensen is. I see he's the publisher. What's the issue?
― dan selzer, Saturday, 4 January 2020 03:54 (four years ago) link
A bunch of stuff I've forgotten details of, but: once told a contracted artist his work wasn't good enough to pay for but printed it anyway (possibly clumsily photoshopping out big NOT PAID FOR YET or PREVIEW ONLY text the artist had cautiously superimposed?), then ineptly threatened to sue people on the internet who talked about the fact he'd done this. Various staff and freelancers who were able to walked at the time, including the entirety of his all-ages imprint.
― don't care didn't ask still clappin (sic), Saturday, 4 January 2020 04:06 (four years ago) link
yikes
― dan selzer, Saturday, 4 January 2020 05:35 (four years ago) link
Black Dossier better than first two volumes imo, stronger emotional core, more evocative and if you're gonna do metafiction you might as well have an axe to grind. Also suspicious of how so many ppl got off the LOEG train as soon as it started being critical of fanboy faves.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:44 (four years ago) link
the first two volumes worked because they had characters that were firmly engrained as part of the national consciousness who could also be defined as latter day super- or science-heroes.
Not really sure how Performance or some random Ian Sinclair novel compares to that
― YOU CALL THIS JOURNALSIM? (dog latin), Saturday, 4 January 2020 11:50 (four years ago) link
None of these are part of any LOEG team; the first two volumes feature plenty of characters that aren't super or science heroes outside of the team, too.
― Daniel_Rf, Saturday, 4 January 2020 12:01 (four years ago) link
Fanboy faves ?
― Chuck_Tatum, Saturday, 4 January 2020 15:09 (four years ago) link
Unsurprisingly, Moore doesn't make it through Providence without a rape scene.
(The book itself is fine, the issues are a recasting of various Lovecraft short stories but it falls apart in the end.)
― Doubling down on out of date information (aldo), Saturday, 4 January 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link
iirc Black Dossier was very badly received at the time it came out. I agree with sic though, that after the first two volumes it only really becomes about metatext and format jokes which Tempest probably does better than the preceding volumes (and I don't think the Janni books are necessarily much worse than those surrounding them).
― Doubling down on out of date information (aldo), Saturday, 4 January 2020 15:34 (four years ago) link
“Fanboy faves” = James Bond?
― Οὖτις, Saturday, 4 January 2020 15:39 (four years ago) link