The nicest thing I can think to say about what happened to the Justice League is that I don't think it's been done before.
(For those not reading i.e. all of you, they were sucked into Firestorm)
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 8 November 2013 09:10 (ten years ago) link
DC's entire line seems to be Countdown bad at the moment (maybe marginally better art). I see Geoff Johns got a new form of head squashing into the last Forever Evil.
― Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 8 November 2013 17:22 (ten years ago) link
what we've been missing
http://i.newsarama.com/images/i/000/118/099/i300/superman-wonder-wonder-3-var.jpg?1384970140
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 December 2013 10:59 (ten years ago) link
I don't remember seeing that picture anywhere. Where's it from?
It's pervading the whole company, in DCU vs Masters of the Universe (no, really) WW calls Supes her bf. Although the main universe is over it and the Forever Evil WW alt whose name I can't be arsed remembering is doing Owlman and Ultraman behind each others backs (with strong rape/domestic violence implications also).
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Monday, 9 December 2013 11:46 (ten years ago) link
That's the alternate cover for issue 3.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 9 December 2013 12:24 (ten years ago) link
Ah. Ta.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Monday, 9 December 2013 12:36 (ten years ago) link
that sounds like a funny if pointless crossover series
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 13:31 (ten years ago) link
You're half right.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Monday, 9 December 2013 13:36 (ten years ago) link
i just read a review that (spoilers) the big evil behind it all is a redesigned nu-52 style ORKO which is freakin' hilarious
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 13:47 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, he's the final reveal in #3 (oops, spoilers LIKE ANYONE CARES).
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Monday, 9 December 2013 13:51 (ten years ago) link
It's Wendy and Marvin and Wonder Dog all over again. DC is totally that fucked up kid from Toy Story.
― Joe Jack Herpes (Old Lunch), Monday, 9 December 2013 14:32 (ten years ago) link
i didn't believe you but wowhttp://everydayislikewednesday.blogspot.com/2013/12/dc-universe-vs-masters-of-universe-3-it.html
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 15:30 (ten years ago) link
In an effort to save the day, He-Man's mom teamed-up with John Constantine
I got to here and couldn't continue due to giggles
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
I don't know which is more insane: Dark Orko or John Constantine in a Masters of the Universe comic. DC has been constantly surprising me since the advent of the New 52, but they're always surprises akin to putting your foot in a shoe filled with shit.
― In A Pig's Eye! (Old Lunch), Monday, 9 December 2013 15:37 (ten years ago) link
i can't take any of this seriously, i actually want to read this now to see how awful it gets
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 16:36 (ten years ago) link
Going through comics every Tuesday when I'm checking the orders, I'm continually shocked that DC sales are 15% higher in my stores than Marvel. Everything they do looks like such a shit show.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Monday, 9 December 2013 19:18 (ten years ago) link
blame the movies
― Nhex, Monday, 9 December 2013 19:35 (ten years ago) link
Is Eric Cartman a writer at DC now?
― earlnash, Monday, 9 December 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
Dark Orko is secretly brilliant IMO
― SHAUN (DJP), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:31 (ten years ago) link
D'Orko.
― EZ Snappin, Monday, 9 December 2013 22:38 (ten years ago) link
if they can get gaiman to write this i will buy
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Monday, 9 December 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
http://www.retailmail.com/system/emails/images/000/092/907/small/2a98f875.jpg?1381216390
― Mental Strong People: The 13 Things They Avoid (soref), Monday, 9 December 2013 23:10 (ten years ago) link
tuckable mask
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 02:11 (ten years ago) link
Out of context, I'd think the Orko thing was kind of genius, but the rest of the comic looks just awful, so...
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 10 December 2013 11:13 (ten years ago) link
i wish they had done this in say, dial h for hero without warninglike standard hero book then BANG attack of the grim and gritty orko
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Tuesday, 10 December 2013 16:52 (ten years ago) link
So, Plastic Man is created in this week's issue of Justice League (#25).
Which would be fine, had he not been in JLI#1 two years ago.
Continuity. It's not fucking hard.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 22:24 (ten years ago) link
I reeeeeally hope someone has been keeping track of all the continuity fuckups. I want a book.
― Breathe-Wrong® Nose Gum (Old Lunch), Wednesday, 11 December 2013 22:28 (ten years ago) link
tbf, continuity seems like it might be kind of hard, because any time I read a text explanation of the history of the Marvel or DC universes it's completely incoherent.
― Kiarostami bag (milo z), Thursday, 12 December 2013 06:09 (ten years ago) link
i get the feeling they don't try as hard to hire editors that will keep track of this stuff. but new 52 in particular got really messed up
― Nhex, Thursday, 12 December 2013 07:00 (ten years ago) link
Continuity not that hard when you're (in theory, anyway) only dealing with a year and a half of it.
― Breathe-Wrong® Nose Gum (Old Lunch), Thursday, 12 December 2013 12:38 (ten years ago) link
OK actual irl lols when the supporting cast for Harley Quinn appears. "Big Tony" is in the middle.
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7423/11486112723_b61bae577a_z.jpg
That's "Big Tony". Not Glen Danzig. No sir, no way.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Saturday, 21 December 2013 22:42 (ten years ago) link
that's some hobbit-like scaleshifting there
― Strangers look on with a discernible, barely contained ‘wow’. (forksclovetofu), Saturday, 21 December 2013 23:02 (ten years ago) link
Yeah, I'm not sure why they've drawn him taller than he is in real life.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Saturday, 21 December 2013 23:13 (ten years ago) link
http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2832/12389158525_59ecd20027_z.jpg
I'm not imagining these panels from Batwang are kinda racist, am I?
Also, Earth 4 (or wherever it was the bad guys in Forever Evil came from, I've lost the will to remember) was destroyed by Amy's Crack out of Doctor Who.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Saturday, 8 February 2014 18:03 (ten years ago) link
lol "kinda"
― Fight the Powers that Be with this Powerful Les Paul! (DJP), Saturday, 8 February 2014 18:17 (ten years ago) link
Generally speaking, one should not go out of their way to make characters in their comics sound like characters from the Friday movies
― Fight the Powers that Be with this Powerful Les Paul! (DJP), Saturday, 8 February 2014 18:18 (ten years ago) link
Well yeah, but I was trying to maintain a distance so I could back out if you all said "don't be stupid, nothing racist there".
Weird it was in Batwang, whose sole purpose is to have a comic with a black Batman in it.
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Saturday, 8 February 2014 18:55 (ten years ago) link
Also one of the gang is Nick Frost.
Aldo, btw, are you still reading this stuff?!
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 9 February 2014 14:04 (ten years ago) link
Unfortunately, yes.
The big problem for me was the time I was spending writing and editing just seemed like too much effort. And then I got a job again, and moved house, and I just didn't have the time. I've been thinking for a while to do a catch-up post but tbh almost everything from the second year failed to stick in my head (because; terrible).
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Sunday, 9 February 2014 14:24 (ten years ago) link
Kind of surprised they haven't done a Batman and John Constantine story really yet. That would have been a pretty obvious team up comic to do in the New 52.
― earlnash, Friday, 14 February 2014 03:32 (ten years ago) link
The obvious person to get to write such a thing would be Peter Milligan with his history with both characters. I'd do it as a flashback story, perhaps with some reference to the old 80s Swamp Thing story with Holland going to get Abby out of Gotham and/or JLA Floronic Man story.
― earlnash, Friday, 14 February 2014 03:35 (ten years ago) link
didn't those stories not happen anymore now?
― (D1CK$) (sic), Friday, 14 February 2014 04:08 (ten years ago) link
Yes, they not happened for several reasons, not least that the Jason Woodrue backstory was rewritten in the past 6 months to give him his New52 history. (Quick version, Jason was a random bloke selected by The Green as The Seeder, a competitor for the Champion of The Green in a trial they have from time to time to ensure they have made the right choice with The Champion.)
― Ian Glasper's trapped in a scone (aldo), Friday, 14 February 2014 08:46 (ten years ago) link
The Seeder
amazing
― (D1CK$) (sic), Friday, 14 February 2014 12:16 (ten years ago) link
Onan The Seeder
― Jeans That Smell Like Ham Because There's Ham In The Pockets (Old Lunch), Friday, 14 February 2014 15:32 (ten years ago) link
47 “New 52” books have been cancelled in three years of the New 52; DC currently axing about one book every three weeks.
http://comicsalliance.com/dc-comics-new-52-47-cancelation/
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Thursday, 22 May 2014 06:29 (ten years ago) link
wow. worse than i even suspected.
― Look at this joke I've recognised, do you recognise it as well? (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 22 May 2014 07:07 (ten years ago) link
I think the key takeaway isn't the number of books that have been cancelled (because to be honest some of them have been mini or maxi series trading as ongoing titles) but that so many of them have been cancelled and then just migrated to new titles - Mister Terrific was cancelled and then put into Earth 2, Grifter was cancelled and then given Team 7, Titans is just being straight rebooted... and weirdly the titles don't seem to end, even when they do. I've been keeping up with all the books (and it's still as painful as ever it was) and I hadn't even realised Animal Man was cancelled - DC have been finishing story arcs with 'THE END' as a trait of the line, and there didn't feel like there was anything climactic about the last issue. I can see why it reads as the end of Jeff Lemire's run, but apart from that it just kind of petered out.
The most galling for me is to see All-Star Western cancelled. Still the most obviously 'different' of the DC books, everybody pretended it was New 52 rebooted when it was just Jonah Hex rebranded; in the last 3 years we've seen Hex in the present day and have his face fixed by modern surgery before being cast back to the Wild West where nobody recognises him any more. And it's been genuinely a great ride, without it DC will just become an unhappy grimface pile of Johnsiverse action figure playtime.
Things currently worth reading:
Flash is still good. Not as consistently great as it was to start with, but there's a decent set of rogues. I'm also not convinced by the New Wally, but that's a whole other story.
Green Arrow has turned totally on its head. It's changed the mythology to the Arrow series mixed with Longbow Hunters, and has some really, really cool layouts and a great art style. Easily DC's best looking book, although it could be more readable.
Wonder Woman still has Azarello on board, and it will be great for as long as he is (which is only another couple of months I think).
World's Finest is probably the weakest book listed here, a sort of buddy movie with Power Girl and The Huntress but cancelled anyway. The early issues with Kev Maguire art are the best of the bunch.
Batman has disappeared up the Bat-mythology wazoo. Scott Snyder is a good enough writer to pull it back but I kind of feel he needs to soon.
Catwoman shows the overall weakness of this list, an averagely written caper plot stretched out beyond normal telling limits. Readable at least, which places it in the top half of the DC output.
Harley Quinn is the closest thing DC have to a Marvel book at the moment, by which I mean one like Young Avengers or Journey Into Mystery or She Hulk; one that deals in broad comedy along with the action. It's maybe the single title I look forward to most, because I like dumb fun. Plus it has Glenn Danzig as a sidekick!
Of the upcoming stuff the Giffen/DiDio Forever People series might be good, because OMAC was good. Suicide Squad will always have a place in my heart because Suicide Squad, but time will tell (and it has Joker's Daughter as a kick-off character. Yuck.) GI Zombie is Palmiotti and Gray, so of course I'm going to give it a break.
That's not a very impressive list now, is it?
― Daniwa, guys! Daniwa! (aldo), Thursday, 22 May 2014 08:06 (ten years ago) link
Ha, lol at them cancelling the Trinity of Sin stuff. Did that ever amount to anything?
― Frederik B, Thursday, 22 May 2014 12:52 (ten years ago) link
aldo - even that list looks like Stockholm syndrome, dude.
― rage against martin sheen (sic), Thursday, 22 May 2014 12:59 (ten years ago) link