― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:38 (eighteen years ago) link
I am so totally there, dude.
― Deric W. Haircare (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:54 (eighteen years ago) link
― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 16:55 (eighteen years ago) link
But, uh, Dave is not the most engrossing of live speakers.
― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:06 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (Come On Now) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:36 (eighteen years ago) link
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:40 (eighteen years ago) link
― Dan (For Douches Instead Of Dunes????) Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:50 (eighteen years ago) link
Your search - douchebuggy - did not match any documents
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 17:53 (eighteen years ago) link
― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:31 (eighteen years ago) link
― city of gyros (chaki), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:50 (eighteen years ago) link
― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 16 May 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link
That's called douchebuggery
― LOL Thomas (Chris Barrus), Friday, 19 May 2006 20:12 (eighteen years ago) link
The weirdest things you run across on YouTube
― Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 25 August 2007 00:29 (seventeen years ago) link
Um... Judenhass... um... wow.
― aldo, Monday, 21 April 2008 11:09 (sixteen years ago) link
EXPLAIN PLZ
― David R., Monday, 21 April 2008 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link
also, so not googling "Judenhass"
― HI DERE, Monday, 21 April 2008 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link
OK, Judenhass is Dave's SUPER SECRET PROJECT #1 which is written by DAVE-THE-WANNABE-JEW rather than DAVE-THE-JEW-HATER and is a series of hyper-realistic (think Raymond school) images of Jews in the concentration camps backed out by text from world leaders (the Americans come out particularly badly in the WWII era) and 'great' thinkers through history about how the Jews are a blight on civilisation.
It's a very, very difficult work to read and, in fact, to critique. I think everyone should read it, but I can't (for the moment) think of a reason why.
― aldo, Monday, 21 April 2008 19:52 (sixteen years ago) link
I think everyone should read it
I have literally zero desire to do so.
― chap, Monday, 21 April 2008 20:40 (sixteen years ago) link
I believe that is what they call a 'truth bomb'
― Oilyrags, Monday, 21 April 2008 20:54 (sixteen years ago) link
I'd argue that it's utterly critique-proof, actually.
And I didn't think it was all that secret, since previews of it have been floating around the internet for nearly two months now. Hell, I read the whole of it more than a month ago at a local shop (one of the preview copies that were circulated early to build retailer support.)
― Matt M., Monday, 21 April 2008 21:57 (sixteen years ago) link
Has anyone read (I think it was called) "Glamorpuss"? His satirical (presumably) look at fashion magazines? Pretty weird prospect...
― Niles Caulder, Saturday, 3 May 2008 04:16 (sixteen years ago) link
Yeah, except it isn't really. It's Dave doing something like Eddie Campbell was trying in Egomania with his 'History Of Comedy', it's Dave's version of the history and development of the Raymond School. It's actually pretty interesting, and very nice to look at (because it's Dave playing drirectly to his artistic strengths).
Definitely worth buying at the moment if you like that sort of thing.
Also, I missed that I should have responded above - SUPER SECRET PROJECT #1 was how Dave was referring to it in development, sorry, I wasn't implying nobody knew about it.
― aldo, Saturday, 3 May 2008 08:35 (sixteen years ago) link
I really kinda dig it.
I just wrote this on my tumblr:
“
Unfortunately for me, there is an implied bargain in comic art: The presence of words juxtaposed with pictures draws the natural inference on the part of the reader that both together add up to a sequential narrative.
Flipping through the pages in a comic-book store, you’re going to think that this is a comic strip.
A natural inference which I’m making use of by putting my narration into these word balloons, thus creating the illusion that this is a comic-art story instead of what it is: A Raymond and Prentice “slide show” - third rate (at best) compared to their own but, outside of their extant original artwork, the only place where you can see what the “look” was made up of. ” —
Dave Sim, on page 9 of Glamourpuss #1.
I bought it on a perverse whim — I’ve yet to read Cerebus, but I was fascinated by what his new comic-book appeared to be: A parodic serial about the world of high fashion, created by a man who is largely understood to be a disturbed misogynist.
As you might have gleaned from this quote (I wish I could have just scanned from the page, but I don’t currently own a scanner), Glamourpuss is something very different, and much more strange. It’s basically a sketchbook in which Sim either replicates drawings by his favorite photo-realist cartoonists — Al Williamson, Alex Raymond, John Prentice, Stan Drake, Neal Adams — or draws images taken from (mostly current) fashion magazines in the style. The illustrations are arranged like a typical sequential comic, and accompanied by Sim’s musings on the history of the style and its artists, and an explanation of the project. There’s definitely some fashion parody, but most of the humor is quite self-deprecating.
Glamourpuss is self-indulgent to the extreme, but the artwork is gorgeous, and Sim’s writing is very engaging if you’re the type of person who tends to be fascinated by the process of obsessive artists.
― Mr. Perpetua, Saturday, 3 May 2008 23:17 (sixteen years ago) link
http://www.inkstuds.com/wp-content/scan.jpg
― Jordan, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:40 (sixteen years ago) link
Ow my brain.
― chap, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:51 (sixteen years ago) link
that's amazing
― Oilyrags, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 18:52 (sixteen years ago) link
Lowest, most subhuman form of life, surely.
― chap, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:10 (sixteen years ago) link
So he's not denying that he's a misogynist. He just wants you to protest the designation.
― Mordy, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:38 (sixteen years ago) link
This guy.
― Abbott, Tuesday, 13 May 2008 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link
I like the review of Glamourpuss that was all, "Why do we scream at Greg Horn for tracing, but when Dave Sim does it without even having a story attached, it's art!"
Do I mean Greg Horn? Greg Land? Something like that. The guy who traces porn, anyway.
― James Morrison, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 00:50 (sixteen years ago) link
Land has more blatantly traced in the past. Greg Horn's work is just static and dull.
― Matt M., Wednesday, 14 May 2008 02:58 (sixteen years ago) link
That letter is HIsterical
― forksclovetofu, Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:38 (sixteen years ago) link
The man's got years of lunacy left in him yet. he should give up comics from now on and concentrate on his inimitable brand of total-immersion performance art.
― chap, Thursday, 15 May 2008 21:43 (sixteen years ago) link
http://gocomics.com/poochcafe/2009/03/13/
Guest appearance by Cerebus
― Thrills as Cheap as Gas (Oilyrags), Friday, 13 March 2009 18:37 (fifteen years ago) link
crossposted from the ILE Cerebus thread --
'Cerebus' Creator Dave Sim Contemplates 'Career End Point' And Economic 'Doomsday Scenario'
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Saturday, 8 September 2012 03:21 (twelve years ago) link
Glamourpuss seemed interesting, but for one or two issues, not 26.
I wonder if his self-image as a Creator is going to stop him seeking illustration jobs - that would be a shame.
I'm curious about how well Judenhass sold - it seemed that if he could keep focussed then he could still put out amazing work - though obviously it was never going to be knocking anything off the top of the charts.
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 8 September 2012 08:23 (twelve years ago) link
(D'oh I should finish the article first - 10,000 sales of Judenhass)
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 8 September 2012 08:28 (twelve years ago) link
Glamourpuss was up and down - the Zootanapuss 'real women look like this' stuff was a weird and, dare I say it, FEMINIST diversion for Dave. The death of Alex Raymond piece has become a bizarre conspiracy theory about how it was all Stan Drake's fault because of professional jealousy. And the letters page was just crazy, you couldn't work out what was really happening and what was Dave writing to (and arguing with) himself.
I've been part of the C&S digitisation Kickstarter and Dave's been making it pretty clear there that he's DONE done with comics. The archive of updates for that is fascinating reading, Dave's being more honest about his career than he probably ever has; how he views himself as a failure and feels guilty for encouraging people into self-publishing too, because they're also doomed to failure. You also get to find out what he knows about Twitter amongst other things. Basically he used to go into a coffee shop that had free wifi and type till they threw him out.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Saturday, 8 September 2012 10:43 (twelve years ago) link
Not C&S, High Society.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Saturday, 8 September 2012 11:00 (twelve years ago) link
Reckon he could definitely make a good living if he taylored his stuff just slightly for a more mainstream audience (or any audience). Glamourpuss sounds almost supernaturally niche.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 8 September 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
The archive of updates for that is fascinating reading, Dave's being more honest about his career than he probably ever has
Yeah, the piece linked above is heartwrenchingly candid.
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Saturday, 8 September 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
He seems to be so clear-eyed and rational about everything except why he's radioactive. I think he could make enough to live out his days, or at least a few more years, if he would agree to a reprint deal on Cerebus with a publisher with funds. But 100% of nothing is preferable to a percentage of anything, I guess. Someday he, Ditko, Toth and Moore are going to sit around in Funnybook Heaven going "goddammit! none of them would listen!"
― How's My Modding? Call 1-800-SBU-RSELF (WmC), Saturday, 8 September 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
plenty of ppl listen to Moore and he's doing fine
― itt: i forgot that he yells at a butt (sic), Saturday, 8 September 2012 23:23 (twelve years ago) link
unless you mean the Walking Dead guy who's suing the other Walking Dead guy
Bundled Update: Kim Thompson And Eric Reynolds Basically Make An Open Offer To Publish Dave Sim
Thompson can't help twisting the knife, though -- "But I think he’s too deep into his Final-Station-of-Dave-Sim-the-Martyr narrative to even consider such an idea." -- great turn of phrase, mean as hell, probably accurate, seems intended to sabotage any actual movement forward towards Fanta-published Cerebus, imo.
― Irwin Dante's Towering Inferno (WmC), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah Moore has plenty of money
Judenhaas was pretty terrible. glamourpuss seemed completely inscrutable.
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:19 (twelve years ago) link
and yeah I'm bummed for the dude but at the same time ***MARTYR COMPLEX*** snark is totally otm
Like I said, he could totally do well for himself. He's highly talented and well thought of (artistically).
― I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know, what exactly does 'more bookshop friendly than the phonebooks' actually mean? Marketed better? Does Kim think I'm going to buy it again because it's in a hardcover with a nice dustjacket? Or does it mean dropping the text parts out of Reads, the bits that criticise the Hemingways and Fitzgeralds, omit pretty much all of Latter Days? Actually further down in text Kim suggests it's making casual readers able to pick up any volume at random. Which makes me wonder whether he's actually ever read the longest single narrative in comics. Will a single introductory page really make The Last Day able to be picked up by just anyone as a standalone book, as Kim suggests?
Also I'd suggest RASL is a bad example to be holding up as a success, having scraped through the 6000 barrier just as a final issue. For comparison, Glamourpuss sold a couple of hundred more issues of #1 as they were launched in the same month and Glamourpuss ended up just under 3000 sales in the final month having published 11 more issues in the interim. Is that close enough to being a draw? Maybe.
― passive-aggressive display name (aldo), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:13 (twelve years ago) link
He seemed more focussed in my reading of it - and doesn't he say that he's not touching the crazy stuff? - like why not put enough in there that you could start with High Society (which is still what I'd recommend), or that, if it's been a year say since the last one you bought, you don't have to reread it before picking up a new one.
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:19 (twelve years ago) link