From a while back, but I re-read Unbeatable Squirrel Girl #31 - the one-shot story where Nancy and Doreen get stuck in hypertime - gotta be one of the best single issues I've read of any comic in years. Such a wonderful series.
― Nhex, Sunday, 14 July 2019 18:17 (five years ago) link
Yeah, Squirrel Girl is great. Still haven't totally understood if it's getting cancelled or if the creative team just decided they were done and Marvel went "well, no point in carrying on the title then". If it's the latter that's a bit of a paradigm shift for a Big Two title, no?
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 14 July 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link
She's carrying on in Marvel Rising, I think?
And I think it happens more than one might think - Young Avengers, if I remember right, was also "well we've done what we came here to do"
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 14 July 2019 21:49 (five years ago) link
Also Erica Henderson left on interior art a little while back, still doing covers. (She's doing that Assassin Nation mini at Image right now). The current artist is fine, but definitely feels a little weird since she's essentially the co-creator of this version.
― Nhex, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:02 (five years ago) link
I guess Sandman was cancelled after Gaiman finished?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:04 (five years ago) link
DC made it a point to "respect" him (true or not, i don't know) by not giving his Sandman/Dream/etc. to any other authors without his permission. They got his blessing for that line reboot recently iirc
― Nhex, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:18 (five years ago) link
I wonder if after the original run was finished, if other writers would be too intimidated by the idea of following Gaiman?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 14 July 2019 22:38 (five years ago) link
was thinking about what i still read from DC with any interest this year and came up with:
- Action/Superman - Bendis' schtick is starting to wear thin and I explicitly don't care about whatever this LEVIATHAN thing is supposed to be about but when they're not nattering (b)endlessly, the characters feel refreshed/classic/eager to please enough to make these fun reads for me
- Batman - With the fake wedding done, the current WAY too long running storyline has been the moment where I've soured on King's (generally impressive!) run, especially the at-least-twice-taken choice of scripting a single voice interior monologue and fluffing it with pin-up art for a filler issue. I'm increasingly sensing that King was done with bats at around issue #50 but they've made him an offer he didn't want to walk away from... maybe he's gonna do some writing work on the movie? Or they're gonna incorporate some of his themes and they want him as a continuity supervisor or something? In any case, it's been cold for a few months, but I still open a new issue hopeful.
- Flash - The immediately-happening "Year one" reboot they're doing has been surprisingly enjoyable. NB: I am a sucker for the origin stories but my interest often fades once the nostalgia's gone. Only four issues along though; so far, so good.
- Green Lantern - It's everything I'd want a sci-fi police procedural by Morrison to be: arcane, melodramatic, casually clever, obsessive in detail, fun to read in batches of three or more. I would recommend the first trade more or less unreservedly.
- Wonder Woman - G Willow Wilson is a good fit on the book. I need to do an 8 issue reread and see if she's stringing together a good long form story but she's doing well on an issue by issue basis.
And frankly that's it! I think Marvel has a much higher hit ratio at the moment which i could capitulate if asked.
Not for nothing, but I would be inclined to take the various Vertigo/Sandman offshoot books on if only anyone could recommend them. I'm not exactly dying to leap into a new series since they're canceling the imprint; it's off-putting and unclear to me if the current lineup will be folded in or canceled or re-solicited with new creative teams or?
ANYWAYS anybody reading: Books of Magic, Dreaming, Goddess Moon, House of Whispers or Lucifer?
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 July 2019 04:10 (five years ago) link
My understanding is that the Sandman Universe and Young Animal titles will be the only surviving ongoing mature readers titles at DC and that they'll fall under the Black Label banner until some WB exec or another makes a different decision on the fly.
I've been buying the Sandman books but I haven't read them yet. Every several years, I do a readthrough of all the related material from Moore's Swamp Thing through like late-period Hellblazer and genuinely love a lot of it, so I want these new books to be good. But I've avoided reading them because I'm afraid that they might not be good. Or at least not what I want them to be. Maybe it's time to make the leap. For you, forks.
― Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 July 2019 12:12 (five years ago) link
I wonder if after the original run was finished, if other writers would be too intimidated by the idea of following Gaiman?― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, July 15, 2019 8:38 AM (fifteen hours ago)
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, July 15, 2019 8:38 AM (fifteen hours ago)
oh yeah, this DEFINITELY would have been the case
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― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 14:55 (five years ago) link
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― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 14:56 (five years ago) link
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― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 14:57 (five years ago) link
Point off for missing the Thessaly miniseries - point restored because the Jeff Nicholson Dreaming issue fucking rocks.
xp okay you're in the clear, we can probably stop short of 'every cover of the Dreaming'
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 15 July 2019 14:58 (five years ago) link
(each of those is the first issue of a separate commission)
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:00 (five years ago) link
xp no repeated writers on the Dreaming covers!
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:01 (five years ago) link
first issue
nb WitchCraft is the second mini, bcz the first one came out during Sandman
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:05 (five years ago) link
If you're talking about the actual character of Dream (as opposed to the broader set of characters/concepts created or revived for Sandman), there actually are very few post-Gaiman instances of such. Morrison's JLA, Kiernan's run on The Dreaming, maybe a couple others.
― Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:14 (five years ago) link
I think this has been the case for many years now, but tbh my Marvel pull list has been shrinking steadily through the last year or so too.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 15 July 2019 15:18 (five years ago) link
my takeaway here is that no one is currently reading any of the vertigo books
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 15 July 2019 15:35 (five years ago) link
I'm surprised it didn't hit harder. Are they no good?(Btw that Lucifer run linked above by Mike Carey was pretty solid.)
― Nhex, Monday, 15 July 2019 16:04 (five years ago) link
even if they're any good, it has been Didio policy to starve them of internal or external support
very few post-Gaiman instances of such
this was bcz Gaiman made his further work for the company contingent on the restriction of that one character
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 16:25 (five years ago) link
the harder hit will come when AT&T close down the publishing division altogether, and every other publisher collapses bcz every english-language comic shop in the world goes under
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 16:26 (five years ago) link
I think I've read maybe a couple issues of Lucifer and none of the others?
I must be the notional reader that only shows up for material when it's a title called Sandman that ostensibly stars that character
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:06 (five years ago) link
I'm not a con person but it is perhaps interesting to note that DC will not have a discrete booth at this year's SDCC but will rather be folded into a broader WB experience. I will not be surprised at all when that entire division is rebranded WB Comics.
― Logy Psycho (Old Lunch), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:19 (five years ago) link
they'd probably brand it in some way
branding is how you do your market segmentation, after all
― untuned mass damper (mh), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:35 (five years ago) link
I read a few things by writers whose work I'd liked previously on non-work-for-hire stuff that they drew themselves, eg Terry LaBan, Bryan Talbot, Ed Brubaker, Jill Thompson, Bill Willingham, Al Davison (who did get to draw his issues). The Jeff Nicholson issue Andrew points out was essentially a colour riff on Through The Habitrails.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 17:38 (five years ago) link
I wasn't meaning Sandman spinoffs, but really I didn't know if anyone else had continued the character right after in a reboot.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 15 July 2019 19:15 (five years ago) link
But I did know they didn't just get John Byrne or Bill Mantlo to keep the title running.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Monday, 15 July 2019 19:16 (five years ago) link
They really tried to get Mantlo - in the end, solidarity with Bob Budiansky was the sole reason that he declined.
― quelle sprocket damage (sic), Monday, 15 July 2019 19:27 (five years ago) link
in case you didn't know, 22 issues in and the dark horse adaptation of gaiman's American Gods with P Craig Russell and Scott Hampton remains one of the best comics on the mainstream racks
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 22 July 2019 06:04 (five years ago) link
via tcj: https://files.constantcontact.com/7c08b62b401/857e5ff9-cc24-4b82-93bd-4687ce4f2a1a.pdf
Dave Lapham put out a 24 page pdf of an unpublished Batman comic he did with Bill Sienkiewicz. “DC had long ago dumped the files off of their server, and Bill had sold the art and later had a hard drive meltdown. The art to this was effectively gone. All I have (and what you’ll see here) are a set of smaller-than-comic-sized printouts from low-res scans.”
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 4 August 2019 21:20 (five years ago) link
Oh, so frustrating! I didn’t know that. What a great run though - with or without Sienkiewicz.
That said, the double page spread with the trail of bats is awesome in a way I can’t remember a Batman panel being in a very long time
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 4 August 2019 23:40 (five years ago) link
very cool! I'm a huge fan of City of Crime, seeing that Sienkiewicz issue #1 take is fascinating
― Nhex, Monday, 5 August 2019 00:42 (five years ago) link
Maybe they don't know or don't like each other, but it always seemed like a no-brainer that Billy the Sink should have been paired with Grant Morrison on a project at some point.
Imagine if the Batman of Zur-En-Arrh segments in Morrison's run when he is trippin' balls were done by Sienkiewicz to show Batman's state of mind.
Lapham's Daredevil/Punisher mini-series is also a pretty good read.
― earlnash, Monday, 5 August 2019 23:52 (five years ago) link
i made a very important threadOutrageous images from Classics Illustrated Junior
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 6 August 2019 19:10 (five years ago) link
I finally read Otomo’s Domu, which has been on my shelf for years … and did not really enjoy it! Oh well.
I know the paper copy is quite difficult to find (I have the UK collected edition published in 1994ish) So if anyone in the UK wants my copy, I’ll be happy to send it out for Whatever the copy of post is
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 11 August 2019 12:32 (five years ago) link
*the cost of post is
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 11 August 2019 12:33 (five years ago) link
Traded out 10 1/2 long boxes today.
― earlnash, Saturday, 17 August 2019 18:56 (five years ago) link
Anyone reading DIE?
It's doing well with the General Public, I've heard, but I'm not sure... it kinda feels like the boring dream sequence episode of a TV show stretched into eternity.
It's on the pull list so I'll give it another couple issues
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 20:07 (five years ago) link
Yeah, I was surprised by that, I assumed it would be "Writer assumes all of his interests are equally interesting, when one is pop music and another is boardgames"
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 21:51 (five years ago) link
At the moment it's kind of like bad Gaiman with better jokes. I sorta hate the art too; it's from the Frazer Irving school of pretty-but-unfollowable painted comics.
I dunno, something about it feels a bit "here is my tragic backstory" in a hacky storytelling 101 way that feels unusually lazy for Gillen. Although, to be more generous, I suppose that conceptually fits with a book about player-generated characters.
― Chuck_Tatum, Tuesday, 20 August 2019 22:21 (five years ago) link
I dig it. D&D Teen goth angst to the max + mid-life crisis, somehow a winning combination
― Nhex, Wednesday, 21 August 2019 05:10 (five years ago) link
Anyone reading the 4th arc of Jojo? I don't think I can commit to it again but I'm interested to know what people think. I remember an old fan site saying that everything after the 3rd arc feels forced, but it looks like there's a lot of novelty with the different settings. The woman's prison and the big horse race sounds great but I just cant.
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Sunday, 25 August 2019 15:38 (five years ago) link
I've only read a few issues of Jojo's but I thought forced was the whole shtick?
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 26 August 2019 10:08 (five years ago) link
Got my kids into Gogor, it is good
― Οὖτις, Monday, 26 August 2019 16:14 (five years ago) link
it's good fantasy!
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 26 August 2019 16:21 (five years ago) link
It’s not an insane idea to want to b
The English language edition of Maggy Garrisson from SelfMadeHero is the best hunk of comics I've read in quite some time, and the best European homage to Engerland since Jacobs' The Yellow M:https://www.selfmadehero.com/books/maggy-garrisson🕸
― Screamin' Jay Gould (The Yellow Kid), Saturday, 31 August 2019 19:02 (five years ago) link
Beehive Press just sent out kickstarter digital edition promos of their lavish new Harrison Cady book and woooooo boy, it looks gorgeous. can't wait for the physical copy.i've always been head over heels for Cady, but i was not aware he was responsible for so much explicitly racist and anti-semetic work. kinda wish it wasn't so beautifully rendered! Sign of the (turn of the twentieth century) times i guess.
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 2 September 2019 19:53 (five years ago) link
We've barely talked about Gillen's WicDiv since it started, which I guess means there's been a general lack of interest - which is fair! I'm not sure it was very good - but curious for thoughts now it's all over
― Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:09 (five years ago) link
I thought it was fantastic, I surprised myself by considering getting a (first!) tattoo based on it. I'm aware this is a ridiculous thing for a 44-year-old straight white male to consider about a series largely devoted to early-twenties kids of various colours and sexualities, which I take as a sign of how much I liked it.
But tbh the demographics that it's meant the most to don't really overlap much with ILX, so I'm not surprised by the quiet.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:21 (five years ago) link