Marvel Comics blabbery

I don't know that I'd recommend a random volume of crossover-bound Bendis Avengers sight unseen (although I'm perhaps the rare voice that will rep for his run more generally), but there is actually a collected Spider-Woman: Agent of SWORD miniseries by Bendis if you're looking for more of this specific thing.

Yeah yeah no I have that, and like it a lot... and that dialogue makes this sound like a “continuation” of sorts?

What’s the very beginning of this whole Bendis Avengers saga?

They recently put out 'Complete Collections' of his entire run on New Avengers, so grab volume one and go to town.

All you really 'need' beyond that is the event collections along the way (House of M, Civil War, etc.). Also check out Secret War, which is kind of a prequel to his NA run.

megalol at last post

Go to your local library, I think you can start with Avengers Disassembled? iirc

Unpack, sic. I'm tired and my feeble brane needs help to comprehend your lulz.

tha dialogue makes it sound... like every bendis snappy patter page he’s done, imo

it’s not bad, but he has a few patterns he repeats as nauseum (male/female crime fighter or cop doing snappy patter followed by “are you flirting” is definitely in there) and the plots on the marvel junk get progressively worse on the main titles

spider-men 2 or whatever is serviceable but it’s bare-bones plotwise

My brief take: good Bendis is good, bad Bendis is baaaaaad. As to the determinant of what mode he'll be in for a given project, I haven't a clue. Like I would've said he's safely ignorable after like 2013 (his X-stuff was meh, his Guardians of the Galaxy was a slap in the face to Abnett and Lanning), but then his Miles Morales and Jessica Jones stuff remained solid.

Thanks all — to be clear, I meant plotwise that convo clearly comes after Agent of S.W.O.R.D. — and I haven’t read much Jessica Drew stuff falling in the period between that and the Dennis Hopeless reboot. I’m not interested in the whole Skrull impersonation storyline that comes before it, but I wondered if there are significant blanks to be filled in...

I vaguely remember a Spider-Woman origin mini coming out around that time about her childhood, not by Bendis though

Yeah I haven’t read that, I think it’s all “dark & gritty” or something

Actually, it is by Bendis (if we’re taking about the same thing).

get Marvel Unlimited and read all the Spider-Woman stuff you want

Eh, I couldn’t justify the monthly cost, my reading opportunities... are sporadic. (Plus, I understand those payments are funneled directly into Ike P.’s account at the Mar-A-Lago clubhouse.)

Jessica Drew is one of the main players in Bendis's New Avengers run. Lots of intrigue early on re: which side of the fence she's really on.

Thanks, maybe I’ll start from the beginning with these Complete New Avengers volumes... looks like library or something is the way to go.

I do have one random digital issue with more Bendis banter (someone asks if Spider-Man and Spider-Woman are partners, and Peter says something like, “No. We’re absolutely not related in any way.”) — but not much actually happens in it, IIRC; the Avengers basically fly on a plane together somewhere.

Yeah, whatever your opinion of his work generally, I think most would agree that you're not gonna get much out of any individual Bendis issue.

if you like his banter and plotting style, his stuff becomes like comfort food

Bendis team books are uniformly awful, aren't they?

His Avengers run from Disassembled -> New Avengers -> House of M -> Civil War (not by him, but it's important) -> Mighty Avengers -> Secret Invasion -> Dark Avengers -> Siege at least kinda manages to tell one coherent overarching story. That page is at the end of that. After that, he just sorta continued with no ideas and it's shit.

I do agree that post-Siege a lot of his mainstream Marvel stuff was weak (though I think Ultimate Doomsday was around this time and fantastic, not to mention he continued to do Ultimate Spidey/Miles Morales which was obviously good). Didn't like his Guardians at all, DID very much like his time-displaced teen All-New X-Men. I did recently enjoy the post-Secret Wars Infamous Iron Man storyline as well. Civil War II was a waste.

Like every successful comic book writer, he just got spread way too thin, tried to do too much - I imagine they all reach this point where they figure they gotta grab the money while it's available, given the industry's lack of long-term support. It's happening now to Dan Slott and Tom King too. (Hell, even now, Bendis is publishing a gazillion creator-owned titles he wrote during his Marvel tenure that they wouldn't publish while doing two Superman titles and editing a teen group sub-label at DC.)

With the billions of dollars Marvel comics is bringing in through it's exploitation in other media, there should really have been a way to siphon some of that money off to the most loyal writers. I mean, nobody is ever going to give up any rights, but it's weird that the Brubaker tv work is making a weird art series with Refn, instead of just placing him in a 'advisory' role on the Winter Soldier and Falcon show. In the long run, everyone would profit off of that, I would think.

have you only just heard of Marvel Comics?

Eh, I think the real answer as to why they'd never do this is the influence Geoff Johns had over the DC Universe...

Geoff Johns’ influence over the DC universe is definitely the reason that Steve Ditko quit Spider-Man.

No, it was a dispute over residuals from the Spider-Man tv show.

🤔

every large publicly held corporation’s goal is to extract the maximum value from all assets (including employees) while not spending a dollar more than necessary, and seldom questioning whether changes in process or incentives could make them more effective

I’m also pretty sure the corporate way of retaining popular writers for longer would be to give the top level of management more money if they improved the retention rate

imagine how many promotions Didio would have received in the last 15 years if he actually did his job well

(Whatever happened to that New Mutants movie that was being developed; is that still on?)

― Theodor Adorno, perhaps the greatest philosopher alive today (morrisp), Friday, June 14, 2019 11:46 AM (one month ago)

The film is mentioned in that article.

― Tuomas, Friday, June 14, 2019 11:54 AM (one month ago)

Update here:

Disney is optimistic that handing Fox superhero properties such as “Fantastic Four” and “X-Men” to Marvel Studios president Kevin Feige will improve the quality of these movies, but bumps must be smoothed over in that transition. The studio is unimpressed with “New Mutants,” an “X-Men” spinoff with a haunted-house vibe, and believes it has limited box office potential.

Well okay, after expressing my general lack of enthusiasm for Deadpool over in the Liefeld thread, I see that they've announced that Kelly Thompson will be writing the latest iteration of his title. She's low-key doing some of the best work at Marvel rn so I guess I'm onboard.

http://www.tcj.com/it-is-time-to-boycott-marvel/

(i know, fantagraphics piece on leaving marvel is very dog bites man but still)

Why is Disney mentioned zero times in that editorial.

I was gonna say... I think Perlmutter's involvement in Marvel is totally gross, but I guess you could just as truthfully point out that Bob Iger is "making bank" off Marvel product, and he's a big Democratic contributor.

comments go into that with some vigor

My uninformed sense is that Disney would be thrilled to give Perlmutter the boot but can't for reasons I'm sure only sic knows.

but I guess you could just as truthfully point out that Bob Iger is "making bank" off Marvel product

https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/evandorkin/781303/165826/165826_600.jpg

Wrong company, how embarrassing 4 u

give it a year or two

When will the "Marvel vs. DC" movie happen

xxp (?) I'm not rationalizing or arguing that anyone should buy Marvel product if they don't want to (if that's what you're implying by posting that strip), just pointing out that the logic of the editorial cuts both ways.

Disney has only owned Marvel for ten years; Perlmutter forced out Perelman after the suicide-by-Heroes-World.

(and continues to impose his bathroom / paperclip / warehouse policies that individual ppl did or didn't count as boycott prompts pre-Disney, as well as the labour policies that Marvel has run on forever)

Sounds like you're writing your own editorial (and probably a better one).

RJ is 3-for-3 on editorials where I agree with the principles, but think the details are insufficiently elucidated to argue those principles to people who might not typically assess spending options against such frameworks.

Such a boycott would hurt Your Favorite Creator far more than any CEO, sadly. (And really, who's gonna drop all Disney, Star Wars AND Marvel properties?)

Raises hand

Its not really that hard