Batten Down the Mizzenmast: October 12, 2005

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This week: Mary Jane Watson-Parker says "CRIPES!" And A HERO WILL DIE (probably in some InfCris thing).

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 13:03 (twenty years ago)

Honesty in advertising - how about A HERO WILL GO ON HIATUS?

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Monday, 10 October 2005 13:54 (twenty years ago)

A HERO WILL GO THROUGH AN EXTREME MAKEOVER

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 10 October 2005 13:58 (twenty years ago)

Friends, neighbors, and superhero coworkers will gather and build him a two-story gravesite, furnished by SEARS. Tears will flow.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Monday, 10 October 2005 15:04 (twenty years ago)

It's here! And still no Seven Soldiers! GRANT--!!

TONY MILLIONAIRE LITTLE & LARGE HC $7.95 --because all of his children's books are awesome
INFINITE CRISIS #1 (OF 7) $3.99 --admit it! ADMIT IT!
VILLAINS UNITED #6 (OF 6) $2.50--Mockingbird is BLACK LIGHTNING!!
ESSENTIAL SPIDER-MAN VOL 7 TP $16.99 --just HAPPENS to be coming out this week
HOUSE OF M #7 (OF 8) $2.99--just HAPPENS to have been pushed back to this week
FINDER #38 (MR) $2.95--final pamphlet-style issue, sniff (and the first part of the new story that will be serialized online)

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 05:04 (twenty years ago)

I find this thread to be a v. excellent service prior to a lunchtime trip to the comic shoppe, so ty douglas and david

this week - fuck metamorpho, gimme that WereWolf by Night Essentials - more great Ploog art!

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 08:29 (twenty years ago)

No Seven Soldiers till Klarion in November, sez DC.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 09:47 (twenty years ago)

WTF? Why is there an Essential Werewolf By Night, but no Essential New Mutants? Marvel's priorities are weird.

I wonder if I'll cave and buy Infinite Crisis out of morbid curiosity.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 10:58 (twenty years ago)

Because Halloween is in a couple weeks, Matthew.

That said, an essential New Mutants would be welcome. But then so would an essential Man-Thing.

Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

For me:

Batman LotDK (last issue of the truly excellent "Snow" story, I think?)
Ex Machina
Fables
Y the Last Mang

And probably the Doom Patrol trade.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:35 (twenty years ago)

oi vey a boring week..

Y The Last Man & House of M for me. Jeeze, and i'm not even THAT INTO either of those titles!

I feel like we've been waiting forever for the next astonishing x-men?

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:44 (twenty years ago)

Did you miss #12, Ian? & the news that it's on hiatus while Joss Whedon makes the Hollywood megabuxx?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

maybe i missed #12.. the last one I read was "emma frost in chillin with the hellfire club shockah"

Ian John50n (orion), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:53 (twenty years ago)

That's #12. You're caught up. Don't hold your breath for #13.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 13:55 (twenty years ago)

GREEN ARROW #55 - Mirror Master, Black Lightning. Black Lightning, Mirror Master.
INFINITE CRISIS #1 (OF 7) - Wonder Womans will live! Wonder Womans will die!
JLA #120 - Let's see how long they can have Black Canary as a background character with next to no lines or action (ever since Identity Crisis!)...
VILLAINS UNITED #6 (OF 6) - Scandal finds out her father isn't really Vandal Savage, but his brother, Randall aka Randy. OHHHHH YEAH!


Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 14:00 (twenty years ago)

'essential' new mutants = yr teenage shit

'essential' werewolf by night = my teenage shit, god help me

as i understand it, the 'demographic' for Essentials is totally fat blokes in their late 30s/early 40s so gd luck w/ yr 80s mutant rub (ok i quite like bob mcleod as an inker of eg val mayerik, but as a penciller he is hohum at best - i guess the sienkiewicz issues are ok to look at, but im certain 80s claremont scripting doesn't 'stand the test of time')

whereas eg Essential Ghost Rider volume one = satanism for kids!

Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:25 (twenty years ago)

Essential = hem-hem 'comics history' = all the dodgy shit you can't be bothered to root about for in the 10p bins at conventions. But still HUNGER FOR IN YOUR SOUL.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:32 (twenty years ago)

Actually the Sienkiewicz art kind of forced Claremont to raise his game a bit, those issues of NM are about as good as he got after the Byrne X-Men run finished. I mean "Claremont tackles the Arab/Israeli conflict" is enough to give a man nightmares as a synopsis but it's a good story and not JUST cos of the Sienkiewicz art.

They would look total shit in B&W though, they were straining the Marvel coloring process as it is which is another reason I wouldn't hold your breath for an Essential NMs.

(PS Essential New Universe Vols 1-10 pls.)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Since he lives in the MIRROR DIMENSION, is Mirror Master immune to Zatanna's spells?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:37 (twenty years ago)

Only if she writes them down.

Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 20:40 (twenty years ago)

EX MACHINA #15 (MR)
FABLES #42 (MR)
GREEN ARROW #55
INFINITE CRISIS #1 (OF 7)
VILLAINS UNITED #6 (OF 6)
Y THE LAST MAN #38 (MR)
HOUSE OF M #7 (OF 8)
I GOTTA CATCH SANTA CLAUS #1
SEX WARRIOR ISANE XXX #7 (A)
GI JOE COBRA LOGO WALL PLAQUE $60.00
JERRY GARCIA COLLECTED ARTWORK TP $37.50
WINNIE THE POOH FRIENDSHIP IS HUGGERIFFIC MUSICAL FIGURINE

j blount (papa la bas), Tuesday, 11 October 2005 21:57 (twenty years ago)

JLA #120: THE RETURN OF THE FINGER!!! (does B. Harras lurk on ILC?)
Villains United #6: The rumors are true!
Infinite Crisis #1: The other rumors are true!
Green Arrow #55: Black Lightning borrows Green Arrow's copy of a Fleetwood Mac album...but which one???

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 12 October 2005 22:37 (twenty years ago)

penguin!!! (*ic foreshadowing - oswald cobblepot becomes black oswald cobblepot becomes black lightning becomes black and blue lightning beetle becomes sparkles the talking blue doberman. krypto to take bullet to brain. we have our supergirl cover.)

j blount (papa la bas), Thursday, 13 October 2005 06:37 (twenty years ago)

FOUR MORE HRS!!!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:34 (twenty years ago)

LESS THAN FOUR MORE HRS!!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

Last night I bought/read: Fables, Y (both solid, no minds blown), Adrian Tomine's Summer Blonde (great but emo), and the third Morrison Doom Patrol collection (haven't read it yet but I can't wait!).

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:53 (twenty years ago)

Oh yeah, and the last issue of the "Snow" Batman LotDK arc, which was as awesome as the previous four parts.

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 13 October 2005 16:54 (twenty years ago)

Okay, now I've actually read Green Arrow #55, basically, Winnick is just treading water and (hopefully) saving his A Game for the One Year Later business. The last, oh, year of Green Arrow has been nothing but pointless downtown punch-ups leading to...OH, THE RIDDLER'S LAIR! Tom Fowler, who had a great cartoony style, seems to be off the book in favour of Superhero Standard Time Ron Garney (last seen on K.Bu's JLA arc ho-hum), so it's not even like, y'know, there's anything fun to look at. C-

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 13 October 2005 17:03 (twenty years ago)

Proof from JLA #120 that either B. Harras or T. Derenick lurk on ILC
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y298/hukl/gafinger.jpg

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 14 October 2005 01:13 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, that issue wasn't so hot. I appreciated the Amazing Shrinking Lower Leg, though (during the not-a-dream sequence).

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 01:17 (twenty years ago)

Booster Gold is dead??? (please tell me this isn't true).
The bastards!!!

Amadeo (Amadeo G.), Friday, 14 October 2005 03:22 (twenty years ago)

So this past week's X-Axis update was essentially an open letter to Marvel saying "FUCK OFF" w/ the ads. I hadn't really noticed the ads as of late, but with the books I just got, SWEET FANCY MOSES! For instance, da new Hulk:

Page 1: COMIX
Page 2 & 3: TWO-PAGE AD FOR HONDA (!?!?!)
Page 4: COMIX
Page 5: AD
Page 6: COMIX
Page 7: AD
Page 8: COMIX
Page 9: AD

WHAT THE!?!?!??

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:21 (twenty years ago)

The more you d/l, the more ads they have to stick in. YOU DID THIS, DR. DIVA.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 14 October 2005 13:50 (twenty years ago)

I blame the Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwings.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 14:12 (twenty years ago)

The Seth Fisher Fantastic Four/X-Men thing had twenty-two pages of comics and TWENTY-SIX PAGES OF ADS! is this standard for Marvel? If so they can get fucked if they think I'm going to buy She-Hulk.

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

What PO'B had to say (which is similar to what Kit said) (please note that the bolding is HIS):

Uncanny X-Men #465 rounds off "Season of the Witch", the book's House of M crossover. But never mind that - can I sell you a car?

The number of adverts in Marvel's comics has been creeping noticeably upwards for some time now, but they've now achieved absurdly detrimental proportions. Uncanny X-Men #465 contains 24 pages of story. And between page 1 and page 24, there are 22 pages of adverts. The comic boasts three double-page spreads of art, and a further three of adverts. One of those double-page adverts is placed, ludicrously, immediately after page 1 of the story. Basically, though, we have now reached a point where the story is interrupted every other page for adverts. And, being adverts, they are designed to distract.

This may have escaped Marvel's notice, but they are in the business of selling stories and entertaining readers. The current level of adverts displays an arrogant disregard for the quality of their product. The monthly pamphlet is a format with little to recommend it. It is slow. It is flimsy. It will unavoidably carry adverts. About the only thing it has going for it is that it comes out before the trade paperback; if it were the other way around, I wouldn't go near the things. But at the very least Marvel could try and make a token effort to make the damn things look like a quality product, not a portable advertising hoarding.

Now, things are literally becoming unreadable, with any attempt at atmosphere destroyed, and pacing shot to fuck. To be fair, it's not uniform across the line - it's the $2.50 books that have the stupid proportions of adverts. The $2.99 books have only ten pages of advertising interrupting the story, which is tolerable. No doubt Marvel will claim that they need the extra adverts to keep the price down.

But DC's $2.50 books have only thirteen pages of advertising - and four of them are on the centre spread, meaning that you can just tear it out and never be bothered by them again. And there's no excuse for Fantastic Four & Iron Man: Big in Japan #1, which fits 24 pages of adverts into 22 pages of story and comes priced at an indefensible $3.50. What am I getting for my extra dollar, you assholes? Ooh, two fewer pages of story, two more pages of adverts, and a shiny cover. And a general sense of contempt for the paying audience.

Seriously, Marvel. Don't you have any pride? Don't you have any self-respect? Don't you care about putting out a quality product? Don't you even care about your reputation for quality? And if you do, why are there 22 pages of adverts cluttering up the 24 page story that I have paid my hard-earned money to read?

On a lighter note, I have to applaud whoever it was in the advertising department that managed to get somebody to take out a double page advert for, of all things, the Honda Civic. Looking remarkably out of place amongst the adverts for computer games and DVDs, the Honda Civic gazes coyly at us from the opening spread, the product of what I can only assume to be a catastrophic demographic miscalculation at the advertising agency. I have visions of a horrified advertising executive racing down the stairs to the mailroom at 5.15pm yelling "Stop the mail! Stop the mail! I've ticked the wrong box! I've ticked the wrong box!"

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:28 (twenty years ago)

Please note that Hulk is a $2.99 book.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:35 (twenty years ago)

They serious put ads on pgs 2 and 3? That's LOW.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:43 (twenty years ago)

Next month: 2-page Carnival Cruise spread.

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 14 October 2005 15:45 (twenty years ago)

Ha, Paul even miscounted on Big In Japan (because the idea of 26 ads for 22 story was too outrageous for him to believe?)

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 14 October 2005 23:33 (twenty years ago)

"That said, an essential New Mutants would be welcome."

Is b&w the best way to reprint sienkiewickz?

iodine (iodine), Saturday, 15 October 2005 18:02 (twenty years ago)

Blount! 1000 words on that Winnie the Pooh figurine STAT!

I will now wile the afternoon away by posting to this thread re: stuff I rec'd in my latest oversized shipment of drugs.

JLA #120: Spandex argument porn. Everyone stands around grousing or complaining. Green Arrow & Bats try to out-indignant each other. And some Joe Kelly leftover has a vision quest featuring THE MARTIAN MANHUNTER. Artwork = if off-day Adam Hughes was biting Neal Adams. Written by the guy that brought us the LEATHER JACKET AVENGERS, & reads like it.

VILLAINS UNITED #6: Dads fight daughters / sons. Villains fight villains. Luthor 1 tortures the grey-haired guy from CRISIS! Catman & Deadshot team up to do stuff. Fifteen people are shot in the chest; none die. Meanwhile, the Parademon gets blown apart by explosive Mother Boxes - possibly the 2nd-most tragic death that will occur in the CRISIS (far behind poor Blue Beetle). OR IS IT?

RANN / THANGARIAN WAR #6: OH NO doublecross by those nasty Rannians against the Birdfolk AGAIN! Spaceships die! Nth Metal gets mentioned about 382 times (as is the wont of any recent Hawkman-involved book).

INFINITE CRISIS #1: You know - for kids. Am kinda fearing the GOTHAM CENTRAL CRISIS.

ACTION COMICS #832: AVOID! Abnett / Lanning e-mail in some godawful Halloween-themed story involving the Spectre and a English-as-second-language Lois having visions of her dad being a Batman-sized dong. (Also: only 3 Simone-written issues left! BOO HISS!)

WONDER WOMAN #221: Um, I saw some OMACbots. And some other stuff. And about 39 fill-in pencilers. Epiphany: the awesomeness of any chapter in Rucka's WW run is directly related to the amount of minotaur in said chapter. No minotaur in here = take a zzzzzzzz.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

i swear if batman wasn't yknow batman i'd swear dc was setting him up to be the next spectre. that batsignal on spectre's chest was probably pure red herring but if it was anyone else it'd be very 'do you see?'.

j blount (papa la bas), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:27 (twenty years ago)

What is it with Wonder Woman and the Crisis on Infinite Pencilling? Could it be that Wonder Woman MUST MUST MUST ship on time so that all plot threads are nicely tied up in time for Diana to DIE DIE DIE (a noble hero's death, of course, possibly in a Paris underpass?) in Infinite Crisis #6???

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 17 October 2005 16:48 (twenty years ago)

From your lips to Johns' pen.

HOUSE OF M #7: OK.

INCREDIBLE HULK #87: Fresh from the latest WHITE FLASH, the Hulk frolics w/ the new Scorpion while boffing the new Scorpion's mom (who happens to be EVIL) and mucking around w/ some Aborigine folk. Yep.

MARVEL TEAM-UP #13: I want to say that Kirkman is purposely taking the piss out of Big Event Stories by doing this Big Event Story that isn't so Big or Eventful. Then again, the previous issue featured a villain origin flashback that lasted nearly the whole issue (& was maybe worth about half-a-page). Anyway: heroes beat the crap out of this renegade Skrull cat, then go chat w/ the Tony Stark from the future about stuff. Zonk.

THOR: BLOOD OATH #2: Fun stuff! Thor & the Warriors Three continue their quest for troll goodies, have Volstagg "outsmart" a Sphinx-like bird, and then find themselves face to face with ... HERCULES! Might not be worth it in singles (depending on your proclivities), but definitely worth a looksee. Here's hoping it's Oeming & not Millar attached to a new Thor book.

GRAVITY #5: Satisfying conclusion to McKeever's 5-part teenage superheroic hootennanny, featuring the most obvious guest appearance (given the thrust of the series).

WOLVERINE #34: Part 2 of 3 of more House-of-M shenanigans which, in the now-post-House world, don't seem to mean much. Also: nice that the book is primarily Mystique getting bitched out. The bait, it is cut.

MUTOPIA X #4: The series formerly known as District X - set in Earth-M - takes a sharp left turn (WHITE FLASH!) and abandons the M-ness two pages before the end of the book. & with an issue to go! If you don't already care about this book, this ain't gonna change your mind.

NEW THUNDERBOLTS #13: VERSUS THE NEW AVENGERS! FWABOW! They FITE, while someone w/ an ant helmet (OH NO) colludes w/ Baron Von Strucker to DO SOMETHING NASTY!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:02 (twenty years ago)

Does Hulk boff Scorpion's mom as the Hulk or as Bruce Banner?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

As Banner. Nice to see both sides are getting plenty of action nowadays.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 17 October 2005 17:14 (twenty years ago)


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