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'The Secret of Drawing' 8.05 tonight, BBC2

"Andrew Graham-Dixon explores the wolrd of cartoonists and manga artists. With the Guardian's Martin Rowson, plus Daniel Clowes on Ghost World, and Japanese artist Misako, who has recently ben signed to Disney, talks about her cult hit biker girl."

Could be interesting. I'm not sure what time I'm going out tonight, so I might miss it myself.

― chap who would dare to violate the least amount of laws of physics (chap), Saturday, 15 October 2005 13:23 (twenty years ago)

It clashes with Hellboy on Sky! Also it has Martin Rowson in it. I think I'll be missing it.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Saturday, 15 October 2005 13:45 (twenty years ago)

I saw this. It had a horrible pseudo-intellectual tone and no real coherence of argument or insight. The main point the presenter seemed to be making was that artists - cartoonists, fine artists, animators - are all interested in the dark side of life. Oh really? Gee whiz.

It also denied the existence of Superhero comics by acknowledging only Crumb and Clowes from american comics.

Basically it was the way most mainstream media is when it deals with the artform, altough it went to lengths not to be. A little bit patronising, extremely ignorant and elitist.

What was good - time-lapse footage of each artist drawing something from blank page to finished piece...

― David N (David N.), Sunday, 16 October 2005 01:23 (twenty years ago)

It also denied the existence of Superhero comics by acknowledging only Crumb and Clowes from american comics.

boo hoo! won't somebody please think of the Superheroes?

I dare say they didn't put a whole lot of energy into covering American Funny Animal comics or Teen Romance comics or War comics or adventure strips or single-panel cartoons either. Superheroes don't exactly need anyone's additional attention for the validation of either themselves or the medium.

― kit brash (kit brash), Sunday, 16 October 2005 05:02 (twenty years ago)

i liked the takedown of cinema ("actually they're all just drawings which someone has made a film out of")

― mark s (mark s), Sunday, 16 October 2005 18:25 (twenty years ago)

i watched this.

it started with clowes and his eightball stuff. went through crumb etc.

went onto political cartoons, hoggart and gilroy and the new bloke who isn't steve bell.

bit of a talk to misako and went from there to manga and hokusai.

then on to storyboarding films. and a bit on old animation - gertie the dinosaur etc.

more as well. was interesting but a bit worthy.

as for superheroes, there was an hour of Spider-Man documentary on ch5 almost immediately afterwards, followed by the film.

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:39 (twenty years ago)

oh, Triplets of Belle Ville / Belle Ville Rendezvous was the last major part. and some Schultz in there towards the beginning. but yes, watching the artists drawer was the best part.

― koogs (koogs), Monday, 17 October 2005 10:41 (twenty years ago)

is there a worse cartoonist than martin rowson?

― Ward Fowler (Ward Fowler), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Me, but only just.

― chap who would dare to violate the least amount of laws of physics (chap), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 15:56 (twenty years ago)

Chap, you LIE!

― Raw Patrick (Raw Patrick), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 16:02 (twenty years ago)

YES!! garland is way worse

― mark s (mark s), Tuesday, 18 October 2005 22:12 (twenty years ago)

Garland, Mac and any number of US editorial cartoonists who draw rampaging ELEPHANTS with 'REPUBLICANS' written clearly on their rumps.

I don't like Rowson much.

― robster (robster), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 08:22 (twenty years ago)

Love Chris Riddell's style, but still he's not very funny, nu?

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 19 October 2005 09:12 (twenty years ago)

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