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David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:29 (twenty years ago)

I'm tempted, yet afraid, to muck w/ the Valiant Comics entry, because of this bit of editorializing:

Valiant's success can be directly attributed to its outstanding writing.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:30 (twenty years ago)

Valiant writing isn't awful but jesus HARBINGER i tried reading that quite recently, what a snoozer.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:32 (twenty years ago)

Actually that should read

"Valiant's success was directly attributed to its outstanding writing, mostly by its high-standing writer, Jim Shooter. Shooter's stories for Valiant generally only sparked to life when they involved men of godlike powers wondering whether or not to destroy the world."

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:34 (twenty years ago)

Why I BLOCKQUOTEd one line, I dunno. Here's more:

The superhero line was held in abeyance, however, as Voyager made licensing deals with Nintendo and World Wrestling Federation, hoping that comic books featuring those popular properties would quickly gain significant market share. The licensed line was disastrous, however, generating losses which required Voyager's backers to double their initial investment to keep the business operating.

In 1990, Valiant finally launched its superhero line, mixing modified versions of the Gold Key characters with several original characters to establish a new shared universe. It successfully used an unusual (for the comics market) coupon promotion to drive sales on its early titles. The line's rapid success sparked the interest of comic book buyers and speculators. In mid-1992, the company published a line-wide crossover called Unity. It altered many elements of the Valiant Universe, effectively integrating all the titles into a more tightly interconnected continuity. Valiant soon became the #3 comic book publisher in terms of market share, behind only industry giants Marvel and DC - and was tipped to surpass DC and become #2.

Valiant's success can be directly attributed to its outstanding writing. Harbinger was the breakout title. Just a few months after it's release, Harbinger gained a substantial fan following and sent the comic world into a frenzy seeking back issues of the series. Wizard Magazine named Harbinger the most collectible book of the decade and sent Harbinger #1 past the $100 mark. Titles such as Eternal Warrior, Shadowman, Rai and X-O Manowar are followed closely. These books dominated the 90s comics market and early issues were on the top of every fans want lists. With print runs in the high hundreds of thousands, in some cases millions, per issue Valiant was the toast of the industry.

WHO'S A VALIANT FAN?

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:36 (twenty years ago)

I'm gonna fuck w/ it for the sake of readability!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 15:37 (twenty years ago)

I've done a fair bit already. It's quite fun, Wikipedia.

Here are some articles I've created or made signicicant contributions to, if anyone's in the least bit interested:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_Jones

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nemesis_the_Warlock

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerebus

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaka%27s_Story

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tintin

chap who would dare to violate the least amount of laws of physics (chap), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

plus:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Sinker

!!

and i am away for the weekend oh noes!

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

(i didn't start it myself!!)

mark s (mark s), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:07 (twenty years ago)

I fucked with it! Productive I am!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

I resisted the temptation to rewrite the entire thing, thankfully.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 16:47 (twenty years ago)

David I take it you added the funny?

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:30 (twenty years ago)

No, I added the stultifying FACTS. I take my work very seriously. Also, I don't think the ComicWiki gods would appreciate the roffles. Also, the facts are kinda funny: "According to an editorial on BobLayton.com, Valiant owed Triumph over three and a half million dollars by the time the first book - Magnus, Robot Fighter - was published."

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

say...does Dave Coulier have a wiki entry?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

(Oh! I am confused. I thought you added the jokes to Mr. Sinkah's entry)

jocelyn (Jocelyn), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:34 (twenty years ago)

I have too much respect / admiration / seething jealous lust for Mr. Sinkah to fuck w/ his shizz.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Now CUT THAT OUT Huk!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Yay for Valiant!

The character was seen in one Acclaim Entertainment-developed video game, Iron Man/X-O Manowar in Heavy Metal, which also featured Marvel Comics' armored superhero Iron Man. In this game X-O Manowar and Iron Man battle together against a number of villains from both Ironman and X-O Manowar's comics. Trying to stop them from obtaining all fragments of the Cosmic Cube, a cube of cosmic energy so intense that if it fell into the wrong hands universal domination would be at their grasp. Thus X-O Manowar and Iron Man must team up against all odds to stop their enemies. X-O Manowar also reveals his old enemies the Spider Aliens, who created his armor... and they want it back!

Once I get my fancy job, I am totally hitting eBay for cheap Valiant lots (much like the lot I once sold).

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 17:38 (twenty years ago)

NO WAY!

John Ostrander is an American writer of comics. Originally an actor in a Chicago theatre company, he moved into writing comics in 1983. His first published works were stories about "Sargon, Mistress of War" published in the First Comics series "Warp", based on a series of plays by that same Chicago theatre company. He is co-creator of the character Grimjack with Timothy Truman, published originally as a back up story in the First Comics title, Starslayer, before going on to appear in a comic of the same name, again published by First Comics in the mid 1980s. First Comics ceased publication in 1991, and Ostrander went on to work at other comics companies.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

That makes it sounds like Ostrander didn't do anything but Grimjack until 91.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 20 October 2005 18:40 (twenty years ago)

"no way" - get one Wasteland.

kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 20 October 2005 19:27 (twenty years ago)

Yeah, I know - the Del Close connection!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 19:28 (twenty years ago)

Posted w/out comment:

As detailed below, Onslaught had a very subtle and complex origin:

During the Fatal Attractions story arc, Magneto ripped the adamantium from Wolverine's skeleton through every pore after Wolverine tried to kill him (Magneto was threatening innocent lives with lethal force at the time). In response Professor Xavier shut down Magneto's mind psionically. When this happened a portion of Magneto's psyche (the most evil part of Magneto's mind) was transferred into Xavier's repressed subconscious ego. This small element of Magneto's psyche took root in the dark corner of Xavier's mind where his repressed anger at humanity's intolerance toward mutants was buried. This was the seed that would grow into the being known as Onslaught. This all took place in issues: X-Men (Vol. 2) #25 and Uncanny X-Men.

The entity would not be freed until much later, however. This occurred after the first Age of Apocalypse story finished. A being named Nate Grey from a parallel dimension came to Earth and when Professor X was trying to scan the mind of Nate Grey (X-Man) to verify Nate's origin, Nate Grey accidentally ripped Xavier's astral form out of his body. Somehow this act freed the hidden psionic entity that was struggling to divide itself from Xavier and take on life of its own. Unseen, the diabolical Onslaught was now free to draw its plans against humanity.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 20 October 2005 19:40 (twenty years ago)

ihttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Ewing !

Pete (Pete), Friday, 21 October 2005 10:52 (twenty years ago)

John Ostrander worked with the Organic Theatre Company, which also featured (at various times) Stuart Gordon, Joe Mantegna, Dennis Franz and David Mamet. Highly influential company in the Chicago theatre scene throughout the 70s and 80s, but shuttered its Wrigleyville space in the mid-90s and everything went downhill from there. Occasionally stuff that Ostrander wrote or collaborated on gets revived.

ng-unit, Friday, 21 October 2005 11:45 (twenty years ago)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comics

Pretty dreadful introductionary section here! I've just done a little tweaking, but it needs impovement, GET ON IT PEOPLE.

chap who would dare to violate the least amount of laws of physics (chap), Sunday, 23 October 2005 00:58 (twenty years ago)


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