100 superheroes without native superpowers

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and by "native superpowers" i mean powers that don't come from a suit or machine! ie if the hero was cast onto an island naked and possessionless the powers would still exist.

100. batman

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

99. robin

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

98. green arrow

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:02 (twenty years ago)

and (controversial)

97. green lantern

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

96-85?. everyone in the watchmen who isn't dr. manhattan

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:03 (twenty years ago)

84. iron man

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

(i had originally intended this thread to be more about your batmans and green arrows... no native powers and no artifical powers... but what the hell!)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:04 (twenty years ago)

Iron Man?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

Blue Beetle

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:05 (twenty years ago)

82. That other Green Arrow, you know, his son.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:06 (twenty years ago)

81. Booster Gold

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

Oh oh oh I'm stupid.

But, wait - Batman & Robin would be fine nekkid! Sure, no Bat Shark Repellant, but whatever!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:07 (twenty years ago)

80. Huntress

― Mark C (Markco), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:10 (twenty years ago)

79. Paste Pot Pete

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:13 (twenty years ago)

78. The Wizard

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

I wonder what the ratio of native superpowered heroes : native superpowered villains is?

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

77. The Green Goblin

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

76. Stiltman

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:14 (twenty years ago)

79. Paste Pot Pete

C4lum is secretly a superhero?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:15 (twenty years ago)

NO PRIZE FOR YOU!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:19 (twenty years ago)

villains is a whole thing. pretty much all of batman's villains, rights?

should we include them in this list?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:38 (twenty years ago)

Batman's got plenty of powered villains (speaking of which, who else is hot & bothered w/ anticipation for Matt Wagner's Batman Meets the Monster Men mini?), Killer Croc, the Clayfaces (except the first one), Tweedle Dee (but not Tweedle Dum), etc.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:40 (twenty years ago)

did the penguin have any powers? besides the ability to resemble a penguin?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:42 (twenty years ago)

He had the power to appear in a movie despite the fact that there's never been an interesting comic book about him.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:45 (twenty years ago)

In the post-NML/pre-War Games Batman stories, they've finally made Penguin work as an organized crime honcho who pretends to be legit, and runs a nightclub.
There was also a fun issue of the Flash a year or two ago where Flash and Nightwing teamed up to fight the Penguin and we finally learned why he's fixated with umbrellas (it's because birds poop indiscriminately).

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 14:48 (twenty years ago)

75. The Question
74. Judomaster
73. Karate Kid
72. Shang-Chi, Master of Kung Fu
71. Batgirl
70/69. Daughters of the Dragon (there were only two of them, right?
68. The Badger

― Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:02 (twenty years ago)

67. Nightwang

66. Oracle

― Mark C (Markco), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

65. Arsenal
64. Speedy
63. Aquaman

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:09 (twenty years ago)

62. Mysterio
61. The Scorpion

― chap who would dare to spy on his best mate's ex (chap), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:12 (twenty years ago)

60. The Shocker
59. the Ringmaster

Lots of Spidey villains rely on technology.

― chap who would dare to spy on his best mate's ex (chap), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:14 (twenty years ago)

63. Aquaman

?????????

Unless this is just disrespect for talking to fish, in which case I withdraw my objection.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:26 (twenty years ago)

Uh, Oracle?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 15:55 (twenty years ago)

s1ocki, your grammar is totes atrocious today.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:05 (twenty years ago)

i have laryngitis!!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:10 (twenty years ago)

(the idea for this thread actually came to me in a fever dream last night!! it was a pretty awesome dream, though... i was also fighting my sickness as green lantern!)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Oracle's power = super branes

― Mark C (Markco), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:28 (twenty years ago)

58. Have we had War Machine yet?
57. THE IRON MONGER (also in best 100 names ever thread!)

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:31 (twenty years ago)

Is this thread about superheroes whose powers rely upon suits/gadgets/machinery (ie, those without native superpowers) or not? Because it strikes me that even though he's a hand-to-hand badass, Batman has gadgets coming out of the wazoo.

― The Ghost of Black Elegance (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:32 (twenty years ago)

wait... so what's the confusion then?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:38 (twenty years ago)

it's gadgets or not gadgets.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 16:39 (twenty years ago)

Aquaman has no powers...as an Atlantean, he just is who he is. All Atlanteans talk to fishes and breath underwater. So, y'know, he's just a dude.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

56. Martian Manhunter!!!!!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

Or: WHO CARES? IT'S A MARTIAN!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:06 (twenty years ago)

ok then i'm calling your bluff

57. superman

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:10 (twenty years ago)

54. Ego The Living Planet

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:11 (twenty years ago)

ok the madness has to end now.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

53. Death

OK, I'm done.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:12 (twenty years ago)

That's Marvel Death, BTW, not Winona Death.

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:13 (twenty years ago)

Superman doesn't count, because on his native world (Krypton), there's nothing special about him.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:16 (twenty years ago)

Except his forelock.

― I do feel guilty for getting any perverse amusement out of it (Rock Hardy), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:17 (twenty years ago)

You stole my post!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:18 (twenty years ago)

52. Hawkeye? (he's just good at archery right, and maybe Hank Pym did something to, but I don't recall)

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:32 (twenty years ago)

51. Mach IV (from Thunderbolts, used to be a baddie)

― jel -- (jel), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:35 (twenty years ago)

Where do "heroes" like Elongated Man and Hourman fit in? Their "powers" are the direct result of TAKING DRUGS, and have time-limits.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:36 (twenty years ago)

Elongated Man has a time limit? NO WAY!

― David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:39 (twenty years ago)

Elongated Man's time-limit is less strictly defined than Hourman's
(NOTICE TO HOURMAN:
don't advertise your limitations.
thanks,
Mr. Terrific)
but it was shown in the recent JohnsLA arc that Dibny hadn't been drinking the Gingold Juice (which I think was actually commercially available) since the tiny footprints incident and, thus, had no stretchery.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:44 (twenty years ago)

Junkies can never be heroes, huk.

― The Comics Code (jel), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 17:57 (twenty years ago)

note the scare quotes.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 18:06 (twenty years ago)

50. Judge Dredd

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Tuesday, 25 October 2005 21:44 (twenty years ago)

49. Taskmaster
48. Moon Knight
47. Black Panther
46. Night Trasher
45. Grifter
44. Punisher
43. Bullseye

― David N (David N.), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 00:28 (twenty years ago)

[i]49. Taskmaster[/i]

Wait, he's got that "photographic reflexes" thing goin' on, don't he? Oh ick, does that make him a mutant?

― Jeff Roberts (J. Roberts), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 01:43 (twenty years ago)

42. Jimmy Olsen

― Vic Fluro (Vic Fluro), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 11:22 (twenty years ago)

41. wildcat (?)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Wednesday, 26 October 2005 13:26 (twenty years ago)

Jimmy Olsen has stretchy powers (drug-induced again)! DENIED

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 27 October 2005 00:05 (twenty years ago)

42 redux. Flaming Carrot, unless "Zen" stupidity counts as a power. (Or maybe it's really Zen "stupidity"-- I'm not sure, and I'm not sure that Burden is sure either.)
40. Mr. A, unless cod-Aristotlean "rational" sophistry counts as same.

― Chris F. (servoret), Thursday, 27 October 2005 01:48 (twenty years ago)

Wildcat -- nein!! GM's JLA revealed that he has the power of 9 lives--like a cat! Because he dresses like a cat! I guess! It wasn't really made that clear!

― Jeff Roberts (J. Roberts), Thursday, 27 October 2005 02:14 (twenty years ago)

39. THE TICK!

― Leeeeeeeeee (Leee), Thursday, 27 October 2005 20:04 (twenty years ago)

the Tick has NIGH-INVULNERABILITY

― kit brash (kit brash), Thursday, 27 October 2005 21:49 (twenty years ago)

That seems a little unfair to Wildcat, Jeff-- he lasted what, 50+ years with out any power besides a good left hook before the PTB decided to graft that on to the character so that they could keep exploiting him? At least GM came up with a totally absurd way to do it-- "because he dresses like a cat", indeed!

39 redux. The Black Bat
38. The Green Hornet
37. The Lone Ranger
36. The Shadow (discounting the later Orson Welles/Adam Baldwin version)
35. Zorro
34. The Scarlet Pimpernel
33. Robin Hood

― Chris F. (servoret), Friday, 28 October 2005 00:14 (twenty years ago)

32. Brainiac 5

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 28 October 2005 14:57 (twenty years ago)

31. Marmaduke

― j blount (papa la bas), Friday, 28 October 2005 15:01 (twenty years ago)

marmaduke has the power to induce smiles.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:19 (twenty years ago)

No he doesn't.

I nominate "The Born Loser" as a replacement.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Friday, 28 October 2005 16:22 (twenty years ago)

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