or were they brought forward in time, or something?
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:28 (nineteen years ago)
Okay, the JSA forms in 1941, fight during WW2 (but not IN WW2, since Hitler had the Spear of Destiny and used to make something bad happen to any superfolks who went to Europe--and possibly the South Pacific), then disband in '51 when HUAC tells them to unmask or be branded commies.After that, things get fuzzy. The JSA title All-Star Comics was revived in 70s (written by Paul Levitz, current Prez of DC), but that was Earth-2, so what the fudge? Shortly (like seconds) after Crisis On Infinite Earths, the JSA was summoned to Ragnarok (aka Limbo) to fight a never-ending battle with Norse deities. This was to explain that, yes, there had once been a JSA, but they were no longer around, because who wants a bunch of oldies mucking about?Then in the early 90s (maybe 92?) in the SECOND offshoot of the started-off-cool, ended-with-the-suck 1991 crossover event Armageddon 2001, Armageddon Inferno, the JSA was rescued from Ragnarok and resumed active duty.Their general lack of crotchediness has been attributed to A) having been in a timeless dimension; B) having been exposed to some sort of magic early in their career (via either Ian Karkull or Per Degaton, can't remember which) and C) individual shenanigans like Wildcat having 9 lives and Alan (Golden Age Green Lantern) Scott not actually being human anymore, but having merged with his mystical green energy.What really throws a wrench into things is that the kids of the JSA (intro'ed in the 1980s Todd MacFarlane star-making Earth-2 spank rag Infinity, Inc.), who are still mostly OG Teen Titans age, which means they were born in the 70s, which means that the JSAers were procreating in THEIR 60s. EWWWW.
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 10 February 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)
so what's up with OG green lantern? did they ever connect him with the guardians of the universe and stuff?
also... wildcat's costume!
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:12 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:22 (nineteen years ago)
― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:25 (nineteen years ago)
― i0dine, Friday, 10 February 2006 18:33 (nineteen years ago)
Obsidian came out in the latest ish of Manhunter!
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 10 February 2006 18:35 (nineteen years ago)
― i0dine, Friday, 10 February 2006 19:30 (nineteen years ago)
the first superheroes in the DCU are fixed as appearing during WWII. but everything since is in flux. therefore, if people still care about such things 30, 40, 50 years from now, they will have to say that OGFlash, OGL et al were active during WWII and then like 100 years passed before the current heroic age. Yikes.
But what if the Powers that Be established that the JSA/ASS would debut around conflagrations that would shift forward as necessary: like Viet Nam, or the Gulf War, or I dunno, Iran Contra or the fukkin Falkland Islands or War on Terror? This kinda thinking was present in Marvel: the Lost Generation and something called the Justice Experience in the DCU, I think.
This would likely be resisted, sinced the notion of the JSA is so wedded to the "last good war." But then again, mebbe IC will set things in motion to address this…
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:32 (nineteen years ago)
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:42 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:47 (nineteen years ago)
I deleted half of this cuz of xpost
― kenchen, Friday, 10 February 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)
― veronica moser (veronica moser), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:52 (nineteen years ago)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:DaredevilBattlesHitler.jpg
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 10 February 2006 19:58 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 20:53 (nineteen years ago)
― s1ocki (slutsky), Tuesday, 14 February 2006 21:14 (nineteen years ago)
Moreover, Johns’ Flash, along with Robin, have both had long stretches of internal continuity that for some time lodged their storylines several months behind the “present day” of many other DCU titles, with implications that make the sequence of recent events extremely complicated to sort out. The upshot is that “current” DCU time compresses to the point where it is now actually running about a year behind the real-world calendar. The flow of events in Flash and Robin even suggests the possibility of accommodating an additional year’s worth of compression, but after diligent comparisons I determined that would distort the internal chronology of far too many other series, causing more complications than it would resolve.
Needs more exclamation points.
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 09:34 (nineteen years ago)
― Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 15 February 2006 16:52 (nineteen years ago)