Sleeper C/D

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So, I suppose this is another quality title that deserves my attention?

Oh, the burden of an addiction to good comics!

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 17 May 2004 15:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Amen to that. Sean Phillips is money.

― David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 17 May 2004 15:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Classic. You could even jump on the current series without having read the trades, but get 'em anyways. Great stuff that actually works with the monthly comic medium instead of simply being a chunk of a larger story.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Monday, 17 May 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

My comic seller loves Sleeper and is forcing me to read it as well. The first two trades should be coming in shortly.

He alse says that the title is appropriate (as it was a sleeper hit when it came out). Not to many people know about it or follow it, huh?

― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 12:00 (twenty-one years ago)

Sleeper only sells something like 11K a month. That's just fucking criminal. Not really a sleeper hit, more like on the cancellation bubble (even though it's gotten props from just about every mainstream comic critic there is, including Wizard of all things.)

The first trade it out now (called Out in the Cold) and the second is already out or will be out just before the first issue of "season 2" ships.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Structuring comics like TV shows C/D

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 14:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Like anything, it can be done badly. Works fine for Sleeper because it acknowledges the episodic nature of its content. Gotham Central is a little trickier, because they insist on more or less self-contained arcs that sometimes run long, so it loses some punch. Doesn't work at all in Greg Rucka's Wonder Woman because he's still only looking at the big picture and reads far better in trade form than the monthlies.

Oh wait, that was rhetorical, wasn't it?

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 18 May 2004 15:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Structuring comics like mysteriously cancelled TV shows (eg Top 10): dud.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Wednesday, 19 May 2004 10:36 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

So I finally got around to reading Sleeper and... Fucking incredible! I can't even believe how good this story is. The superheroes, the villians, the sex, violence and espionage. I picked up the first volume and some other comics at my comicbook store. At home, I read Y: The Last Man #24, The Witching #1 and toyed with Bear #5 before opening the Sleeper trade. The store closes at 8:00pm and at 7:30pm I was calling...

DOUG: Hello, Funnybook Factory.
AMY: Tom?
DOUG: No, this is Doug.
AMY: Oh, hi Doug. It’s Amy.
DOUG: Hey Amy.
AMY: When you and Tom come over, can you tell Tom to bring volume two of Sleeper. I’ll pay him when he gets here.
DOUG: Sure.
AMY: … Don’t forget to tell him, okay? Bring volume two.
DOUG: Okay.
AMY: I got the money here. If he forgets, I’ll kill him. I’ll KILL him.
DOUG: Jesus, all right. He’ll bring it.
AMY: Okay, thanks. Bye.

Yeah, it’s that good.

― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Monday, 19 July 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I love it too. I think I liked vol. 2 even more than vol. 1. I had to go back to the first one to remember how Holden and Miss Misery's pain-feedback-loop sex life works, though. The "origin story game" is great as well.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 19 July 2004 13:01 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Genocide is my favorite character. He's really funny. His origin story is great (in a severely messed up way).

― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Monday, 19 July 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah so I figure that it's not just Rucka carrying Gotham Central after I've read a few issues of Sleeper.

― The Dreaded Rear Admiral (Leee), Monday, 19 July 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Ugh, that fucking name Holden. Have you ever met anyone in real life named Holden? No. But fiction is crawling with it just cause people are stupid enough to maintain horrible influences (ha, "influences").

― Dan I, Wednesday, 21 July 2004 00:19 (twenty-one years ago)

But it's true, Sleeper is very good. I just finished reading the first season and now am mourning my lack of either a reliable source of fresh on-line comics (I usually just luck into them from torrents/slsk/FP), or enough money to actually go buy the damn things.

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 29 July 2004 06:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Maybe you can find a comic book shop with comfortable chairs?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 29 July 2004 12:41 (twenty-one years ago)

But there're comic book people in those stores! They're scary!

― Dan I. (Dan I.), Thursday, 29 July 2004 18:25 (twenty-one years ago)

seven months pass...

I read Sleeper vol. 3 last night (after re-reading the second half of vol. 2), and I had forgotten just how good it is. So atmospheric, and it does the "villain's perspective" 1000000x better than Millar's Wanted without even making it the focus of the narrative.

There is a bit too much of Holden trying to figure things out in a "is it reverse psychology, or reverse-REVERSE psychology?!" stylee (Wallace Shawn to thread), but that's part of the fun.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 March 2005 16:27 (twenty-one years ago)

*gasp* The 3rd trade is out?

― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Monday, 21 March 2005 19:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Yep, I think it just came out within the last week or two.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 March 2005 19:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Is Sleeper ending after "season two" (i.e., one more trade left)? In a way that would be too bad, but I also really like the idea that Brubaker is building to a big ending.

― Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 21 March 2005 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

I probably mentioned this before, but I'm sort of worried that the build may be better than the ending. It could just be "My plan is working perfectly!" "No, my plan is working perfectly!" "No, My plan is working perfectly!".

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 01:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha, totally. The last issue should go all Ultimate Future Shock and every panel will be a new twist/double-cross.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 22 March 2005 13:39 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

i just read vols 1 & 2 and they were great. really great. well, until the reveal at the end of vol 2... that i wasn't as nuts about.

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 21 April 2006 18:47 (twenty years ago)

***SPOILER***

i just wasn't so into tao's "bad guy speech," i kinda knew that when we found out the truth about him it'd be way more boring than i'd imagined, and i was hoping brubaker would draw it out so i wouldn't get disappointed so soon!

also i'm not nuts that dude's cover has been blown, although maybe he'll take it somewhere interesting.

****END SPOILER***

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 21 April 2006 19:05 (twenty years ago)

two weeks pass...

so despite not being nuts about the end of vol 2 i just picked up #3. am i going to like it?

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

(probably should've asked that BEFORE i bought it)

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Yes?

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:43 (nineteen years ago)

awesome!

― s1ocki (slutsky), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

There was a huge gap between when I read vol. 2 and vol. 3 so I could hardly remember what had been going on, but I enjoyed it.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 5 May 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

Volume one is half-off at my store.

I might have to purchase it.

For you see I am a Brubaker fan.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Thursday, 3 August 2006 00:48 (nineteen years ago)

do it to it

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:46 (nineteen years ago)

GOOD GOD MAN DO IT RIGHT NOW

Break in if you have to!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

And send Blount the bill for any damages.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 August 2006 01:51 (nineteen years ago)

Buy it immediately. Actually, save yourself some time and buy all of them at once. There will be no regrets.

― Laurah (laurah), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:01 (nineteen years ago)

Also, it'll get you psyched for the hott BruPhil action to be had on CRIMINAL (COMING SOON)!!!!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 3 August 2006 02:36 (nineteen years ago)

i still need to get the last one

― s1ocki (slutsky), Thursday, 3 August 2006 11:54 (nineteen years ago)

It's kinda shitty, isn't it?

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

No?

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:29 (nineteen years ago)

KIDDING!

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 3 August 2006 13:33 (nineteen years ago)

I guess I got no choice now.

― barefoot manthing (Garrett Martin), Thursday, 3 August 2006 19:48 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...

Sam Raimi! Tom Cruise! SLEEPER FRANCHISE!?!?!

― David R., Tuesday, 19 August 2008 13:40 (seventeen years ago)

Speculation on a po-faced Darkman: C/D?

― David R., Tuesday, 19 August 2008 13:48 (seventeen years ago)

WTB POPULATION CONTROL T-shirt. PST.

― Matt M., Tuesday, 19 August 2008 14:13 (seventeen years ago)

one month passes...

― the pinefox, Friday, 17 October 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

apparently they're not punk

― the pinefox, Friday, 17 October 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

Oh, you didn't mean that Sleeper

― the pinefox, Friday, 17 October 2008 15:36 (seventeen years ago)

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