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The annual baseball game between the Avengers and the West Coast Avengers, always interrupted by Goings-On. Including a Zodiac revival one year, if I remember right.

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The Evolutionary War, one of those misguided attempts to "fix" continuity/comiclogic by having the High Evolutionary wander around explaining why Gwen Stacy's clone wasn't a clone and shit like that, while evolutionizing himself beyond human ken and fucking with people. Backup stories in each Marvel annual retold his origin piece by piece.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:02 (twenty years ago)

BLOODLINES 4EVAH

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:20 (twenty years ago)

back when i was trying to collect the entire run of West Coast Avengers, I used to LOVE those baseball games.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)

i'm sure they're in my mom's house somewhere, still.

― Special Agent Gene Krupa (orion), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:21 (twenty years ago)

They actually played in costume, too, didn't they? Take THAT, Claremont!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:22 (twenty years ago)

Ha, they did, yeah. Seeing Hawkeye out of costume is like seeing him in drag. It's just weird.

The WCA had a great first half of the run, and then got weird, and maybe recovered some but only by becoming a very different book. But I seriously love the baseball stuff.

― Tep (ktepi), Thursday, 23 February 2006 21:30 (twenty years ago)

Best Annual Crossover Thing A-Ma-Goo, from DC: "Fables" which ran in The Question, Green Arrow, and Detective Annuals in 198blurgh, I think they were all written by D. O'N, Lady Shiva and a sensei (not Sensei, though, I think) travel to America, and offer lessons to our heroes in the form of Fables. Nothing CHANGES FOREVER, but a decent story where you don't have to read each chapter.
Somebody sorta cartoony did the Green Arrow one (Tom Artis, maybe???) which was, like, a major shift from the Post-Neal Adams (but pre-Alex Ross) super-realism of Ed Hannigan.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:01 (twenty years ago)

Worst Annuals that Weren't Really Annuals Since GL Didn't Have His Own Series at That Time, from DC: Green Lantern Specials #1&2
The first one was, okay, pretty heady, with angry John Stewart fighting Apartheid after being wrongly accused of stealing a diamond from a South African mine (Hal Jordan done it). The art I remember being sorta awful, by whoever was doing the post-Gil Kane art on Action Comics Weekly.
The second was ugh, cosmic detritus, and frankly, pretty much the same as the plot of Emerald Dawn. GL fights some robot hellbent on killing GLs and adapts to whatever foe he faces. Early Priest story, when he was still using another name (and had a character named Priest some Fauxda (faux+Yoda) alien).
It was the beginning of the end of my interest in Green Lantern.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:10 (twenty years ago)

I think I also kinda liked the Adventures of Superman/L.E.G.I.O.N. '89 annuals x0ver

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:12 (twenty years ago)

It was the beginning of the end of my interest in Green Lantern.

Which is finally taking root 10-15 years later!

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:18 (twenty years ago)

BTW - the post GK ACW art was by Tod Smith, I think. (I might need to create comic's Pitchfork, just to take advantage of my stupid-ass talent for remembering this stuff.)

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:23 (twenty years ago)

Which is finally taking root 10-15 years later!

Well, I quit buying the Gerard Jones series about 8 issues in.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:31 (twenty years ago)

GEOFF! JOHNS! got you for 9 (not counting the mini) - that's ... an improvement?

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:32 (twenty years ago)

For some reason I remember barely any DC annual crossover things. JLApes? Or was that a fifth-week event? (Fifth week events: essentially the same thread topic, or another kettle?)

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:35 (twenty years ago)

S: DC 1000000

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:36 (twenty years ago)

So I backslid and got caught up in A) nostalgia, B) HYPE! and C) GUY GARDNER.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:41 (twenty years ago)

The Byrne FF Annual where the Skrull Throneworld gets eaten by Galactus was quite a BIG DEAL and crossed over with an Avengers Annual I think...?

I remember the first line-spanning Marvel annual event (Atlantis Attacks! or The Evo War, whichever), seeing the advert and thinking, wow! this is going to be a really great, big story, and then even from the 2 I read it was horribly clear that beyond saying "Yeah let's do a big story", none of the writers/editors had actually talked to one another at all about it.

By the turn of the 90s they were really debased - all those 3 or 4 part annual crossovers written by whoever was kicking around the office, often F.Nicieza.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:46 (twenty years ago)

Was DC 1M an Annual-type event, tho? I thought it was just a plain old line-wide x-over.

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There was some slappy X-world annual event helmed by good old Fabs. I remember the X-Factor annual because Joey Q drew it.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:48 (twenty years ago)

DC 1M was an Annual Affair (with Specials!)

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:49 (twenty years ago)

OR WAS IT? Actually, maybe it was 5th week.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:50 (twenty years ago)

Oh god ATLANTIS ATTACKS! I think Liefeld drew 2 or 3 of those annuals. Before he became LEE FELLED.

― David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 24 February 2006 15:50 (twenty years ago)

The most flagrant Marvel annual x-over was LIFEFORM, as summarised here (v useful site for this thread), which featured a LIFEFORM that grew between each annual, so it could fight whoever had annuals not yet assigned to a crossover, in ascending order of power.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:00 (twenty years ago)

Armageddon 2001 recommended reading: None.

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:06 (twenty years ago)

DC 1M = four regular issues + an issue each for all of the main books (plus Chase!). They didn't say Annual on them, but I actually don't know if anything did in the late 90s.

Actually, from that site Tom linked, it looks like everything under the sun got a #1,000,000 issue.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:11 (twenty years ago)

Hahaha Azreal #1,000,000!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:12 (twenty years ago)

Young Heroes In Love???

― Huk-L (Huk-L), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:15 (twenty years ago)

I actually don't know if anything did in the late 90s.

Answer: Yes, they did.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:19 (twenty years ago)

this is going to be a really great, big story, and then even from the 2 I read it was horribly clear that beyond saying "Yeah let's do a big story", none of the writers/editors had actually talked to one another at all about it.

This is an on-the-money characterization of that period of crossovers -- Atlantis Attacks, The Evolutionary War ... um, the Terminus thing? Or was that one of the "we're doing FOUR crossovers this year, with four annuals each!" ones?

Onslaught probably would have followed that model had it happened earlier, for that matter. There's sort of a particular flavor to the crossover-across-the-annuals. Maximum Security, too.

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:25 (twenty years ago)

DC1M was just all the books that month being "#1,000,000", so it was more like 'Zero month'.

― Tom (Groke), Friday, 24 February 2006 16:32 (twenty years ago)

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