One Beer Later aka My CBR Shame Special aka Here be DC spoilers

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"One Year Later" is one of those events just made for evil interweb comics stealers. This is the thread where I read all of them for as long as I can bear, or until I actually make an honest comic of some of them and pays my money over (warning honest comics fans: this is unlikely, excepting Batman and Son).

I will be MARKING each of the comics. I'm not looking for Tintin level goodness here, obviously, a 10/10 would be "as good as the Suicide Squad revamp from the 80s", which is still pretty excellent. A 1/10 would be "As good as Anima's solo series", say.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:47 (nineteen years ago)

Outsiders #34: The Outsiders have gone to Africa! Why have they gone to Africa, is it because there is a big super-villain planning stuff there, or is it because there is a TOPICAL STORY there that needs TACKLING? Have a guess. The Outsiders are a covert team, or Nightwing thinks they are, but they fight everyone anyway much to his annoyance. The Outsiders will now use unorthodox methods to Get The Job Done, which in this ish seems to involve behind-the-scenes implied shagging of a v.unpleasant dictator. Macho stuff faintly compromised by the need to switch to costumed action.

5 jumping-on-points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, my first thoughts were, Um, if you want to be COVERT, ixnay on the andexspay. But maybe that's just me.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:54 (nineteen years ago)

Detective #817: Enormous big RESET button pressed on the Bat-mythos with Insp. Gordon, Bullock back and hints that bad things happened in Gotham but now the Bat is back all will be well. James Robinson (for it is he!!) lays it on a bit thick with crowds in the streets cheering the bat-signal (in yr face Denny O Neil!) and there's a bit too much "look look an ICON" style writing. It disguises the lack of actual story here, though something is up with Two-Face. Pretty good art and a reasonable bit of groundwork for a readable and human Batman, but how long will it last? Robinson's writing as stylised as ever, and the large number of "do you remember what a BAD YEAR we've just had" scenes don't help. As a brick, James.

6 jumping-on-points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:55 (nineteen years ago)

Tom reads the comics so I don't have to, hooray!

Jordan (Jordan), Monday, 6 March 2006 14:58 (nineteen years ago)

Aquaman: Sword of Atlantis #40: I can confidently say that this is the best Aquaman comic I've ever read - this is still not saying much of course, even so this is good stuff and the most genuinely intriguing set-up of OYL so far. It's also a set-up which may well bollock continuity all over again, hurrah. A:SOA is going to be a fantasy romp book and this sets the tone nicely with an undersea fight and a coming-together of some Questers, viz. Aquaman, King Shark, and a geezer with tentacles on his head who may ALSO be Aquaman but has forgotten that he was. The premise is so far good - old Aquaman will try and force new Aquaman to 'fulfil his destiny', said destiny being actually fragments of memories. It may all sound a load of wank but Busiek and Guice sell it. Worth picking up if you have spare money for a OYL title.

8 jumping-on-points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:01 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, Detective was like the part of a cop show that comes before the opening credits. The preamble.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

Also there's JSA but I haven't read that yet.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

I agree with pretty much every word Tom says about that issue of Detective, but I kinda liked it! I'm going to stick with it, and I'm not even sure why.

Wait, who is the "new" Aquaman?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:02 (nineteen years ago)

I hope Tom sticks it out long enough to grapple with THE BATTLE FOR BLUDHAVENG.

Good call on the Aquamang, Tom! That's the one OYL book I bought (yes Daver be spending), and I'm actually more bullish on it than you are!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

Aha Matthew this is the other twist! The new Aquaman seems to have the origin of the Golden Age Aquaman. Old Aquaman is the one we've been reading about for the last 15 years or so.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:03 (nineteen years ago)

The amazing thing being that this stuff all comes across as quite mysterious and compelling on the page, rather than "Oh no not AGAIN".

Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:04 (nineteen years ago)

OH NO, EARTH-2!
xpost

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 6 March 2006 15:05 (nineteen years ago)

palp

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 6 March 2006 16:48 (nineteen years ago)

Firestorm Teh Nuclear Man #23: The big surprise here, less of one since they blabbed to Newsarama about it, is that half of Firestorm's ID is now Firehawk. It's hard to accurately communicate the exact degree of shoulder-shrug this produces since the hallmark of this entire Firestorm series has been a revolving-door identity. I'm a little more surprised that Lorraine Reilly is apparently a senator now despite being surely still in her mid-20s. The first few issues of this new title were a bold-ish attempt to do Firestorm with an entirely new cast, and they worked well but also managed to unearth an unimagined fanbase for old 'Storm Ronnie Raymond, who have protested vigorously. To their credit DC have stuck to their guns with new Firestorm Jason, to the extent of killing Ronnie off not once but TWICE, but fans of the old school can rest easy - Firestorm#23 is exactly as bland and unengaging as any of the Gerry Conway material they so fondly remember.

3 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED (only just)

Tom (Groke), Monday, 13 March 2006 00:06 (nineteen years ago)

(Just read advance copies of this coming week's Superman, Birds of Prey & Green Arrow books, and no I'm not about to reveal any spoilers. Superman = pretty good, and a very good jumping-on point--Busiek's touch with characters evident. Birds of Prey = not sure how good a starting point it is, but a very clever use of the one-year gap, as clearly a lot of stuff has changed and everybody's just taking it for granted enough that they don't even reveal what a lot of the changes are, exactly. Green Arrow = weakest of the three, mostly because it spends so much time yelling "look at us, we're laying the groundwork for future stories!")

(On the Nightwing front: noticed that while Outsiders refers to him as Batman's former sidekick or something like that, it doesn't name him as Dick. I'm guessing that Dick dies or is otherwise transformed in Infinite Sadface, and that the new Nightwing is Jason Todd.)

Douglas (Douglas), Monday, 13 March 2006 02:56 (nineteen years ago)

That's a good theory. I mean, they don't say that Batman is Bruce Wayne in Detective 817 either, but it stands out in the Outsiders, because they specifically name the other identities of the rest of the team.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 13 March 2006 03:37 (nineteen years ago)

Well, that's the BIG MYSTERY, no? It seemed like there were a lot of Nightwing rumours around Identity Crisis as well, including a fake leak that Dickie was the KILLER. I think DC's sorta been trying to figure out where Nightwing stands. I mean, sure, he's technically one of the most universally known comic characters, but he's not really Robin (who definitely ranks higher than Wonder Woman in terms of international recog-whatever that's worth). So, like, can we kill him?

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 March 2006 04:53 (nineteen years ago)

But the world doesn't need a Nightwing. Its not that well known a character is it? Why would someone else do it. The legacy (of being poorly written by Devin Grayson cos she almost has the same name as the character!)

Pete (Pete), Monday, 13 March 2006 11:16 (nineteen years ago)

I guess this "is it Dick or Jason or Bruce" thing is basically them taking advantage of the fact that none of the artists can agree on a distict rendition of Dick Grayson that would be immediately recognizable.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:28 (nineteen years ago)

That said, if it turns out that Dick Grayson is Batman, I will pretty much stop buying those comics then and there until it's Bruce Wayne again.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 13 March 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

I'm 98% sure that the Nightwing on the cover of the Nightwing comics is Jason Todd, because he's holding the same middle eastern style dagger that Red Hood has been making stabby with in Batman comics.
Outsiders Nightwing is probably Dickie. Batman is most definitely Bruce Wayne, since Commissioner Gordon can smell a fake (see Knightfall and Batman: Prodigal for evidence) (and Nightwing wears more cologne to cover up the smell of sex with ALIENS).

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:36 (nineteen years ago)

Cumin.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 13 March 2006 14:42 (nineteen years ago)

Cumi'N

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

Paprik'A

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:11 (nineteen years ago)

S'lt

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:16 (nineteen years ago)

Bat-tr'Y

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 13 March 2006 15:17 (nineteen years ago)

Devin Grayson cos she almost has the same name as the character

There's a reason for that, you know.

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 00:34 (nineteen years ago)

You lie!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 04:01 (nineteen years ago)

deed poll innit. FACT!

kit brash (kit brash), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 06:05 (nineteen years ago)

She claims it's accidental now, though I'm past the point of caring.

No-one's asked Matthew about his extraordinary decision?

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

What's to question? It's the most sensical thing on this thread.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Tuesday, 14 March 2006 14:28 (nineteen years ago)

Sneak peak of the OYL Robin!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 16:45 (nineteen years ago)

NOW THAT'S WRITING!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

I've made an extraordinary decision?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 17:42 (nineteen years ago)

SARCASM CRISIS!

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 15 March 2006 17:55 (nineteen years ago)

As of today's Nightwing, Dick is back in action as Nightwing but kinda not acting like himself, & is emphatically not a couple with Barbara; Jason is also dressing up as Nightwing and killing bad guys.

As of the preview copy of Catwoman that was on display at New York Comic-Con, Batman is definitely Bruce.

Best comic of the week: Bulleteer #4, which neatly ties up the themes of the miniseries (superheroines as unwilling or willing fetish objects) and puts a very interesting twist on the overarching plot of Seven Soldiers. Initially I had no idea how Morrison was going to deal with as much story as he's going to have to deal with in 32 pages. Now they've announced that SS#1 is going to be 48 pages, and I still have no idea how he's going to do it.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 16 March 2006 04:54 (nineteen years ago)

Isn't that what Grant always does, though? I remember when New X-Men waas winding down, and it seemed like "how the hell is he going to end all of this in 22 pages?"

Anyway, am I wrong in gleaning that Superman has lost his powers?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 16 March 2006 09:17 (nineteen years ago)

That would sure seem to be the case, wouldn't it?

So who's actually been out of action for the 52 year? Superman/Batman/Wonder Woman/Robin, obv., but apparently Green Arrow also hasn't been in costume for the year, and there wouldn't seem to have been a Flash, either.

But, you know, Superboy Punched the Universe, so nothing means anything.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 16 March 2006 09:41 (nineteen years ago)

I was a little dissapointed with the last Bulleteer -- the origin story for the porn superhero seemed to drag on a bit (although the first four or so pages are fantastic).

Amusingly, this was one of the first GM comic my girlfriend decided to read after being upset by Chubby's death in Seaguy. And then he kills a TEDDY BEAR.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:35 (nineteen years ago)

A few more Bulleteer notes:
*Would've been nice if Paquette had consulted Zatanna #1 for visual reference, where Sally was "75 years old and I can't get served in a bloody bar." She doesn't really look 16 for most of this issue, either, which defeats some of the point.

*The dying teddy bear reminds me of a similar scene in "A Game of You."

*A fridge--after the "girlfriend-in-refrigerator syndrome"?

*What the hell is up with the white mouse?

*The "wardrobe of solitude"-is it related to Ali-Ka-Zoom's wardrobe?

*"FREFON"? Wtf? And who is phoning Alix on the page where she hits Sally with it?

*Well, now we know what the "spear that never was thrown" is.

Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 16 March 2006 19:57 (nineteen years ago)

Right! I didn't tie Sally to Zatanna because, well, for obvious reasons. Nice cheesecake art, though.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 16 March 2006 20:03 (nineteen years ago)

"wardrobe of solitude"?!

okay, i am going to the comix store tomorrow.

tom west (thomp), Thursday, 16 March 2006 22:39 (nineteen years ago)

weren't both issues of SS always meant to be 48pp?

kit brash (kit brash), Friday, 17 March 2006 05:42 (nineteen years ago)

OF NOTE for folks what want to save money in the long run (from Newsrama-tut): 52 will be available by subscription and will be priced at $100 for the entire series. That's only $1.92 per issue - save over THIRTY DOLLARS!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 20 March 2006 03:41 (nineteen years ago)

Nightwing #118: This is the first issue of Nightwing I've ever read, and it's terrible. The plot as Doug revealed is that Jason T is pretending to be Nightwing and is murdering crims, and Dick is back as Nightwing, and they're in New York, and Jason has to save Dick after he has been exceptionally rubbish in a fight with two metahumans. Dick is totally amazed that these people were metahumans despite the fact that they are drawn as if they're made out of stone and stand two heads taller than anyone else in the comic. Jason Todd's schtick is much the same as before, except now he's tormenting someone else with their ineffectuality. He also has a clear hairstyle advantage over Dick. Dick gets a new supporting cast the easy way, by picking one up in a bar - she also turns out to be a metahuman, WHO'D HAVE THOUGHT IT! The art is so-so throughout and the writing is ghastly - Bruce Jones writes it like an issue of Spectacular Spider-Man from the 70s except with more of TEH GROWN-UP SEX because comics are for adults now. Yes they are.

2 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED (maybe)

Tom (Groke), Monday, 20 March 2006 10:04 (nineteen years ago)

Superman #650: Nicely-drawn, nicely-written, generally very nice issue, reminding me somewhat of the days of the super-soap where every issue of Superman was similarly gentle. Superman has lost his powers (again), but seems marvellously unbothered by it, and Metropolis has seemingly Done Well Out Of The Crisis, with nobody really feeling Superman's absence, except for poor old Jimmy Olsen. This is a fine set-up, an intriguing story, and Clark quite enjoying not being Superman is a good, humanising touch too.

8 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 20 March 2006 11:38 (nineteen years ago)

Birds Of Prey #92: Again, the first issue of BOP I've ever read, which means that I'm completely unsure as to what the status quo was before One Year Later, so questions as to which Huntress this is (or whatever) are meaningless to me. That said this is a good, slick, action-packed story which moves the overall continuity forward a bit and turns on a plot - what do you do with a defecting supervillain? - that I don't remember seeing before. Meanwhile Black Canary (I think) is going through some kind of initiation fight-rite overseas somewhere, and someone who's meant to be scary is in the team as the Jade Canary. My lack of knowledge of the (loose) bat-corner of the DCU is showing, but even if I didn't get the surprises there was plenty to enjoy here.

6 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 20 March 2006 11:53 (nineteen years ago)

Dick Grayson also has another member of his supporting cast, who sees both him and him-with-a-tiny mask-on within 12 hours. That she doesn't seem to make the connection must make her a front runner for this years Dumber Than Lois Lane award.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 20 March 2006 12:43 (nineteen years ago)

Green Arrow #60: Oliver Queen is now Star City's mayor. I knew this before I started the issue. In fact I knew it months ago - it was one of the first pieces of OYL information revealed, and it's been prominently trailed and referred to since. Any DC fan who ever looks at Previews or at a comics news site will know it - which these days is surely most of them.

So you'd think that at some point the editor would have had a conversation with Judd Winick along these lines: "Judd, since we're trailing the mayor thing heavily you can jump right into the story. It's a big deal, of course, but don't build the whole issue around the mayor's identity, or make it the cliffhanger or anything, cos that will look pretty stupid."

No such conversation occurred, of course, for now we have a whole issue which is villains, vigilantes, support cast etc standing round talking to each other about the NEW MAYOR. "Yes things were going fine until the NEW MAYOR", "I wonder what the NEW MAYOR will do about it", "The NEW MAYOR has vowed to demolish 'The Wall'" etc etc HOLD ON JUDD WE KNOW WHO IT IS! It goes on to the degree that you wonder if DC have pulled off a very cheeky trick and the last page mayor reveal is going to be Lex Luthor or someone. But no.

So this is a very clumsy set-up issue, but it's a set-up for something quite interesting. My only other concern is the bit where they stress that the one of the NEW MAYOR's very key policy pledges has not won him much support in the city. So, erm, how did he get elected then?

4 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 20 March 2006 13:32 (nineteen years ago)

JSA #83: I had been putting this off because I have no interest in the JSA. I still have no interest in the JSA, and am not much nearer even knowing who any of them are. This reminded me very strongly of the first DC comic I ever read, an issue of Tales Of The Legion Of Superheroes in which an absurdly huge cast (poorly introduced) finds their folksy 'downtime' interrupted. That was written by Paul Levitz too, and he hasn't grown on me. This is the third or fourth OYL title which reads like a meat-and-potatoes comic of the early-mid 80s, dull competence and little but. If DC can't make their titles spark having engineered this once-a-decade opportunity to do so, it doesn't bode well for what happens when we reach "18 months later". I think this is the first OYL story where there's really nothing to make me want to come back for part 2.

3 jumping-on points out of 10. CANCELLED.

Tom (Groke), Monday, 20 March 2006 13:53 (nineteen years ago)

NIGHTWANG FLIES HIGH

On a personal note, I'm glad that 2 of the 4 books going back to press are ones that I (& Tom!) endorse.

Tom, you might want to dive into the back issues boxes (hem hem) and check out Gail Simone's run on BoP. It starts with #56, if you're scoring that way. The art's somewhat inconsistent (& often boobtacular - shocking, I know), but it's pretty enjoyable! Ask Douglas! And possessing up-to-date Batknowledge isn't necessary!

I'm half-tempted to do this sort of thread for CIVIL WAR bodkins. Any ILCsters that want to stroke my ego, or threaten me w/ bodily harm, bring such action hither.

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 20 March 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

Superman #650 is really quite brilliant, no? It's loaded with little nuggets like "WHO IS BATWOMAN" headline and weirdo graffiti and Clark Kent in fedora (and geekoid high school jacket), and I think even the pretzel has significance.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 23 March 2006 17:44 (nineteen years ago)

I liked the idea that now that he doesn't have to be Superman he's good at his job not just because he's got more free time, but because he doesn't have to be a klutz as Clark Kent, he can let the Superman charisma bleed over into the rest of his life.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Thursday, 23 March 2006 21:55 (nineteen years ago)

three weeks pass...
I've barely had time to read any comics this month, luckily some of the OYL stuff is barely readable so it's a good match.

Robin #148: Robin is framed for a crime he didn't commit O NOES that of murdering Batgirl. This might be an interesting mystery in upcoming issues but this set-up creaks horribly. It has an obligatory bit in which various people who know Robin quite well have to act like he might have done it, and just read quite stupidly (hi dere Oracle). It also has an equally obligatory scene in which Robin tells Batman that he has to do this...on his OWNNNNNN, which again makes everyone look like a chump. The underwhelming cliffhanger finds Robin having to break into a cop shop. Nice cartoony art, which unfortunately just accentuates how thin this issue reads.

4 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Teen Titans #34: One of the problems with Giant-Size X-Men 1 being such a touchstone is that it's fooled a certain type of writer into thinking that team line-up changes are de facto exciting. I don't care at all which team Bumblebee is on - does anyone? I have to admit Geoff John's framing device - Cyborg waking up - lets him tell this story pretty well but nothing actually happens until the last two pages which sees Robin up to things in his lab. That bit is good, though.

5 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:21 (nineteen years ago)

Blue Beetle #1: Gawky but normal teen gets strange powers that he doesn't understand - complaining we've been here before is utterly redundant, what matters is how the tale is told, and Giffen falls somewhat short: too much kids-hangin-out, not enough Beetle action, maybe because there isn't much of a sense of what might constitute "Beetle action" in this version. The teen in question seems nice enough, maybe a little too bland.

5 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:30 (nineteen years ago)

*cough* POLL *cough*

chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Thursday, 13 April 2006 17:53 (nineteen years ago)

Ungrateful, the lot of you!

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:04 (nineteen years ago)

Only because he's a big tease!

chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Thursday, 13 April 2006 18:08 (nineteen years ago)

Infinite Crisis: The Battle For Bludhaven #1

One of the least edifying moments of my 'return to comics' was realising that in order to give Nightwing something to do they'd created a city RIGHT NEXT TO GOTHAM which nobody had ever noticed before. They had then called it BLUDHAVEN. You couldn't make it up, except Chuck Dixon did. One Year Later Bludhaven has had a giant supervillain dropped on it and it's all got a bit messy, as a large number of - let's be frank - no-marks stilt and exposite their way around the ruins. The new Freedom Fighters may well be spawned from this mess, having been granted radiation powers. We also have new Atomic Knights and - heaven help us - a new Force Of July.

This is a OYL book which reminds me really strongly of the late 80s post-Crisis DCU. Unfortunately it doesn't remind me of the sharply imaginative comics launched back then, like ANIMAL MAN, SUICIDE SQUAD or the Baron FLASH. It reminds me of comics by the likes of Paul Kupperberg which would be left on the newsagents shelves for months until I was finally bored enough to buy one. What's that? They're bringing back CHECKMATE?

3 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED if only because I want to see who they bring back next.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 20:19 (nineteen years ago)

Manhunter #20: MANHUNTER must be the only example of a six-part back-up strip which has spawned multiple completely unsuccessful ongoings. There was the blue mask guy who got a series out of MILLENNIUM, this one which seems to be a worthy comic about a single parent superheroine, and wasn't there something in the 90s about some geezer with spectral hounds?

I had never read an issue of MANHUNTER before. It is tripe. The setup seems to be lawyer by day, superheroine by night, but for an introductory issue this spends a lot of time on tedious support characters who aren't properly introduced. Nobody seems particularly likeable, and the main writing tic seems to be that everyone makes nudge-wink jokes all the time. Penalty points for the - seemingly standard - OYL tactic of not introducing the arc's actual plot until the final page. Double penalty points for the unlooked-for return of that old 80s trope the slasher who thinks all women are EVIL WHORES. Reads - and looks - like a minor New Universe title. Dreadful.

1 jumping-on point out of 10. CANCELLED.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 20:28 (nineteen years ago)

Action #whatever-it-is and Superman#651: Still good, still gentle, maybe a bit too gentle, very reminiscent of the Super-titles in the late 80s, Metropolis as a great place to live with occasional super-villains. It feels like a whistle-stop tour of the post-Crisis superverse, except that all the great supporting characters from those days are either dead or villains now, I guess. Very attractive art, and they're keeping the central mysteries simmering enjoyably. Good stuff though let's hope something happens soon.

7 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 20:33 (nineteen years ago)

Outsiders #35: Judd Winick writes some 24 fan-fic with Nightwing in it.

3 jumping-on points out of 10. TO BE CONTINUED.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 18 April 2006 20:39 (nineteen years ago)

two weeks pass...
Nightwing #119: Considerably worse than #118, which I would have bet serious money against the possibility of.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Sunday, 7 May 2006 23:45 (nineteen years ago)

MUST REVIVE THREAD. (MUST FINISH POLL FIRST)

Tom (Groke), Monday, 8 May 2006 08:42 (nineteen years ago)

They'll probably take the OYL sticker off after 52 finishes, you might want to get a move on.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 8 May 2006 11:40 (nineteen years ago)

OMG Outsiders #36!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 May 2006 13:34 (nineteen years ago)

Wha happen?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:17 (nineteen years ago)

Trib!

David R. (popshots75`), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

Outsiders #36 - If the last three issues had been one issue, this would have been an excellent comic, but whatever, that's Winnick's bag. Some despotic African country (a real one, too, I think it's Mali?) has a YOUNG Jay Garrick (aka Old Man Flash) as their own personal super-operative!!!

Huk-L (Huk-L), Monday, 8 May 2006 14:26 (nineteen years ago)

does one have to get both Action Comics and Superman to follow it? is it the same team, same plots?

tom west (thomp), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the current Superman story is the same team doing the same story through both series.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Thursday, 11 May 2006 19:53 (nineteen years ago)


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