Q: How does one become a nerd?

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At one point in childhood does one transition from being "a kid who reads a lot of comics" to being an actual, terminal comics geek?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:14 (nineteen years ago)

Gah, sorry (mods?), question should read:

At what point in childhood does one transition from being "a kid who reads a lot of comics" to being an actual, terminal comics geek?

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:15 (nineteen years ago)

This is like asking "when do you become an adult?" (and has pretty much the same answer, actually).

31g (31g), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:22 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, I think over 16 and still reading comics = geek.

chap who would dare to be a stone cold thug (chap), Wednesday, 12 April 2006 23:38 (nineteen years ago)

I'm a nerd who just happens to read comics.

c(''c) (Leee), Thursday, 13 April 2006 04:13 (nineteen years ago)

I think maybe I got stuck with it when I started getting Comics Buyer's Guide mailed to my house around age 12. But even before then, the concept of back issues and a history behind the comics appealed to me more than it would any normal kid, I think. I was probably reading the annual Overstreet Guide earlier than that.

Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 04:28 (nineteen years ago)

probably when you find yourself having more conversations about the writers/artists/inkers/etc than the characters.

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 13 April 2006 05:23 (nineteen years ago)

12 year old = "batman is so awesome!!" = not a nerd

35 year old = "batman is so awesome!!" = not a nerd

35 year old = "frank miller is so awesome!!" = nerd

J.D. (Justyn Dillingham), Thursday, 13 April 2006 05:24 (nineteen years ago)

No, I think 35 year old = "batman is so awesome!!" = nerd
Doesn't mean you should stop saying it, but still nerdy

Ray (Ray), Thursday, 13 April 2006 07:20 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, the nerd thing is following characters regardless of who's handling them because you're so INTO the characters... it's slightly* less nerd-like to follow specific artists/creators.

(*I did say slightly...)

_chrissie (chrissie1068), Thursday, 13 April 2006 11:23 (nineteen years ago)

So if a nerd is a 30+ y.o. still into comics, what do you call 30+ y.o. people who follow actors like Denzel or Meg from movie to movie? Are they movie nerds? Are there art nerds who read up on Dali? Or is nerd now a neutral description and not a disparaging term? Or is it that being a comics nerd is seen as more insular than our fellow nerds?

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Thursday, 13 April 2006 13:38 (nineteen years ago)

Yeah, of course they're nerds. And it might be a badge of honour, depending how you look at it, it being another word for hobbyist of fan from the perspective of Average Jo(e) who thinks anyone who goes too far beyond the 'norm' of sleep-eat-shit-fuck is a bit peculiar.

Nothing wrong with being a nerd, really...

_chrissie (chrissie1068), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:24 (nineteen years ago)

Maybe it's less about the supposed nerdiness, and whatever cachet that might or might not have, but the tipping point where a mild teenage interest becomes something more obsessive.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Thursday, 13 April 2006 14:39 (nineteen years ago)

what do you call 30+ y.o. people who follow actors like Denzel or Meg from movie to movie? Are they movie nerds?

Isn't that too mainstream to be considered nerdy? I think that would just make you a Denzel/Meg fan-- something you'd have no embarrassment talking about in front of the water cooler. The ladies the next cubicle row over from mine talk about Lost and American Idol together, but I don't think they're obsessive enough about it to be nerds and it's nothing anyone would blink an eye over in normal society.

but the tipping point where a mild teenage interest becomes something more obsessive

Yeah, I'm reminded of that Dave Sim editorial where he compares comic book nerds to closeted gay society from back in the olden days-- we speak in secret codes that normal people feel they shouldn't even be privy to! I was talking to a friend of mine who's an English major last weekend and he expressed an interest in finding out more about comics, but described it as a world unto itself that he knew nothing about-- like there's something other about GNs and the comics scene that sets it apart from Peanuts or Calvin and Hobbes. My mom reads collections of comic strips all the time, but I doubt she's even read Maus despite her interest in Jewish history.

Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Friday, 14 April 2006 01:38 (nineteen years ago)

There's certainly elements of, say, Lost fandom (EG fanfic) that are more nerdy than anything that's ever occurred in ILC. Or it would be if Lost had been running for 60 years and crossed over with ER and The Sopranos and the West Wing. Which it should.

Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Friday, 14 April 2006 01:43 (nineteen years ago)

Sports is the ultimate litmus test (or something) for this sort of thing; lots of people are super obsessive about it, but you'll never hear them referred to as geeks.

31g (31g), Friday, 14 April 2006 05:56 (nineteen years ago)

Actually, I'm more ashamed of being a baseball geek than a comics geek. (In the UK, it's just about acceptable to like comics, but preferring baseball to soccer football is a real faux pas.

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 14 April 2006 09:42 (nineteen years ago)

"Lost" feels to me like one of those clearly nerdy things that have somehow managed to slip through and become mainstream, I imagine the original "Star Trek" series must've been something like that also (in its time, of course it's totally nerds-only now!). I mean, "Lost" has great nerd pedigree (Paul Dini!) and aesthetics, but yeah, it's water-cooler stuff, everyone's mum likes it, liking it doesn't make you a nerd.

Yeah, the nerd thing is following characters regardless of who's handling them because you're so INTO the characters... it's slightly* less nerd-like to follow specific artists/creators.

I agree with this also. It feels somehow more adult to be interested in a writer or artist than a fictional character.

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 14 April 2006 10:21 (nineteen years ago)

About Denzel and Meg, it probably depends on the extent to which you're into them. Owning everything they've done and having posters on your wall, etc. -- if you were older than 17, I think a lot of people would still see that as pretty majorly geeky.

But the point really is, WHO CARES? Most people have NO special interests, you know? You can throw the term 'norm' back at anyone with equally effective disdain... chuck in words like 'hive mind' while you're at it. ;-)

I am at the 'snob' end of geekery, being interested in creators rather than ideas. It does feel more 'adult', though I didn't plan it that way. I must admit, so far as comics go, I was always more visually orientated -- I didn't follow writers much. I follow Moore today, but no one else, really. That could be seen as less mature, maybe -- ultra high-end snobbery would be placing total emphasis on writers, I think... I believe in the idea that a lousy script can be made somewhat palatable by lovely artwork while a brilliant script can be sunk by appalling art (ideally, a comic will be great on both fronts, obviously)... so I guess I value the art side of things slightly more. I'm digressing a bit.

_chrissie (chrissie1068), Friday, 14 April 2006 12:57 (nineteen years ago)

Most people have NO special interests, you know?

Exactly. Passion about anything, as long as it's not overly obsessive or unhealthy, is a good thing. And the sports mention is dead-on. Fantasy baseball leagues vs. wondering when the Phoenix will return - both seem like vicarious adventure to me.

scamperingalpaca (Chris Hill), Friday, 14 April 2006 14:12 (nineteen years ago)

WTF, everybody has special interests, even if they're "boring".

Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 14 April 2006 14:19 (nineteen years ago)

This is pretty interesting.
With sports, I think someone can be obsessive about them and not be viewed as a nerd, but when it gets to fantasy sports the line is crossed. An NCAA bracket is totally fine, where fantasy football (USA, dudes) is riding the line depending on how much time and/or how many leagues you're in, and fantasy baseball is sinking your toes into the river of nerdzone. I've never met anyone who plays fantasy golf.

I recently got back into comics, and I'm sort of embarrassed about it, which makes me embarrassed with myself to be embarrassed about it. I'll tell someone that I'm obsessed with baseball with a "what can you do" shrug, but I find myself hoping that my coworkers don't see me going into the comic book store below our office (but that's also because it's called Jeffrey's Toys and Comics and has fucking dolls in the windows).

sheep sheet (serious sheet), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:17 (nineteen years ago)

Nerd quotient = Amount of time spent on hobby vs how far out of the mainstream that hobby is.
Comics are pretty far out of the mainstream, especially for adults, so there's a big multiplier there.
Indie comics tend to get filed under books, not comics, especially by people who don't know anything about them. Being a big Chris Ware fan is like being a big Philip Roth fan.

Another strike against (spandex) comics is the 'weekly fix' angle. Having to be at the comics shop every week - having a hobby shop where the staff know you by name - is pretty nerdy.

Ray (Ray), Friday, 14 April 2006 16:41 (nineteen years ago)

That formula is good, but nerdiness also relates to the kind of hobby. Comics or science are nerdy before we get into degree, anything to do with sport isn't. People can be nerdy even without knowing their hobbies too - you meet people who just strike you that way. This involves physique, social skills, dress sense, way of talking and so on. Comic fandom is not short of people who'd strike anyone as a nerd even if you had no clue they were interested in comics.

Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:01 (nineteen years ago)

"WTF, everybody has special interests, even if they're "boring"."

No, a lot of people really don't. Special meaning particular; a lot of people just have passive interests -- watch a soap or a footie game if it's on, read a book if someone lends it them, and that's it. I wonder why that is? I don't think it's an intelligence thing. I guess in some cases, if you have a really draining job, say, it can really sap you and leave you wanting just to relax in your free time. I mean, I'm not reading or doing much at the moment because my mother is ill in a way that somewhat incapacitates her and I have a lot of things to do... in fact, I'm wasting a tiny bit of my free time right now!

Hmmm... I think I probably strike people as being a nerd.

_chrissie (chrissie1068), Friday, 14 April 2006 17:20 (nineteen years ago)


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