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So anyway - Seaguy!

― Vic Fluro, Friday, 21 May 2004 07:55 (twenty-one years ago)

I enjoyed it, but I don't know why.

It has the overall tone of "chuck together loads of fun ideas and a story will emerge somehow", although you instinctively know GM has some kind of plot in his head already. It'd be easy to accuse GM of writing a satire on how people perceive 'proper' GM material though.

I did find the artwork a bit confusing though - I'm thinking particularly of the scene where Chubby looks down the sewer. I'm not really sure I know what it actually is he's looking at...

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 21 May 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Eyeballs stuffing kids into sacks.

― Vic Fluro, Friday, 21 May 2004 09:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Ah. Not sure whether that helps or not. :-/

I thought the Mickey Eye stuff was great, if a little obvious. (It's no secret that the Mickey Eye empire = Disney, and the disembodied eye on legs in Monsters Inc was called...?) I'm not sure why only Seaguy vomited up Xoo though, when presumably everybody was eating it?

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 21 May 2004 10:18 (twenty-one years ago)

ohmigod, Mickey Eye = Disney????

I am enjoying this comic a lot.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 21 May 2004 12:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Apparently.

Doc Hero is supposed to represent Marvel/DC's superhero lines. It's all allegory-tastic, according to several sources. See it summed up here:

What The Fourth Rail had to say about Seaguy

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Friday, 21 May 2004 12:38 (twenty-one years ago)

It's allegory-tastic, but far more subtle about it than, say, Flex Mentallo. Meaning, you can read Seaguy at the surface level and just get that it's a fun, quirky adventure story (albeit one with darker undercurrents.) As allegory for the comics world, it's pretty timely (though a bunch of the themes are long-running themes where Mr. Morrison is concerned.) I dug it. Loved the art, even if it was weird to see Cameron Stewart's artwork given a more modern color treatment (after the flat colors of his Catwoman run).

More, please.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Friday, 21 May 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, I wasn't going to check this out -- I feel overdosed on Silver Age tributes, which is what it looked like in the ad -- but y'all are making it sound pretty good.

― Tep (ktepi), Friday, 21 May 2004 13:05 (twenty-one years ago)

I like it a lot, and stand by my 'Silver Age superheroes meets Brave New World' description. Love the opening scene with Death.

I did think the Disney thing was a little bit obvious, but that's probably just because it brought memories of a college class where I spend too much time doing Foucaultian readings of Disneyland. S'all good.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 21 May 2004 13:11 (twenty-one years ago)

argh, typos ahoy

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 21 May 2004 13:14 (twenty-one years ago)

I found it fascinating and fun - I think the dark undertones are huge and central, and the apathy of the heroes is fascinating. I'll be a bit disappointed if it just turns into 'evil megacorp mind-controlling everyone into submission', really.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Friday, 21 May 2004 14:24 (twenty-one years ago)

I had the same thought.

Here's a cool interview with him about Seaguy.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 21 May 2004 14:45 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Seaguy! Seaguy for the second time!

― Vic Fluro, Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I need to acquaint myself with Seaguy the First Time.

Easter Island statues smoking!

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 17 June 2004 21:30 (twenty-one years ago)

I am very worried about Chubby the Tuna.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 18 June 2004 08:19 (twenty-one years ago)

ARRRRRGH! I love this book! You guys steer me RIGHT, BUT I AM VERY UPSET ABOUT CHUBBY DA CHOONA!

― J (Jay), Friday, 18 June 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)

Does no one weep for the loss of Xoo's innocence?

The mouth to mouth on the octopus (er, mouth to beak) was the greatest moment in comics this year so far.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 19 June 2004 02:26 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm half-convinced you guys are making this up.

― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 19 June 2004 02:37 (twenty-one years ago)

We couldn't make this up.

But, thank god, Grant Morrison can.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 19 June 2004 15:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Mouth to mouth with the octopus! Geez.

The store was sold out of #1 :/ This is what I get for not having time to get there in a little over a month. Rather than start with #2, I'm going to wait for tpb.

― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 19 June 2004 17:06 (twenty-one years ago)

I might be able to find #1 if you really want, Tep. It's worth waiting for, but you shouldn't have to...

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 19 June 2004 17:21 (twenty-one years ago)

If you see a copy, I'm good for it via Paypal (that seems easiest, anyway), and that would be very cool of you -- but don't go questing for it a la Leee and his Hellboy Batman :)

― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 19 June 2004 20:25 (twenty-one years ago)

Don't wait for the trade this time! Buy 2 and stick it in a safe until you can find 1. There will be no trade - and more importantly, the planned 9-issue saga of Seaguy won't happen - unless the first 3 issues sell! Please, if you want it, buy now! I need more Seaguy but I'm too cheap to get multiple copies and give them to friends and relatives, so I can only cajole.

― Vic Fluro, Saturday, 19 June 2004 21:49 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, that's a good point, "wait for the trade" logic really works better for Spider-Man or what have you. (Although it's Morrison, it's probably safe ...) I'll pick up #2 next week, I think I'm home on the weekends until the 4th.

― Tep (ktepi), Saturday, 19 June 2004 22:01 (twenty-one years ago)

You must buy it now. It's a proper issue based comic, with cliff-hangers and stuff. You won't be able to properly worry about poor Chubby if you can just turn over the page to see if he lives or dies.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Sunday, 20 June 2004 09:03 (twenty-one years ago)

DON'T RILE THE WASPS OF ATLANTIS!

― J (Jay), Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:27 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a first album title if I ever heard one.

― Vic Fluro, Sunday, 20 June 2004 20:40 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Seaguy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

― Vic Fluro, Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:06 (twenty-one years ago)

SPOILERS

BE WARNED

What do you suppose that final wink meant? Does he know the truth or is he merely a smiling puppet?

― Vic Fluro, Thursday, 22 July 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

The game is afoot, I suspect. At SDCC, Cameron Stewart said that Mr. Morrison had written out a full treatment for the second part (another 90 or so pages) and was ready to go ahead. There seems to be some indication that DC wasn't blown away by the numbers on it, but that reorders may change their mind (or the trade, assuming there is one.) I suspect that if Grant writes some more big projects (like any DCU stuff, really) then they'll probably throw him a bone or two to keep him happy.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Sunday, 25 July 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

#3 joins the list of my favorite Morrison issues, I think. I want more, but wouldn't feel cheated if I didn't get it.

― Tep (ktepi), Sunday, 25 July 2004 02:19 (twenty-one years ago)

Has anyone mentioned that rumor about GM writing an arc for the new rotating-creative-team JLA book? That could be biggish.

― David R. (popshots75`), Sunday, 25 July 2004 05:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Dark-as-fuck ending, I thought. Didn't expect that.

― Wooden, Sunday, 25 July 2004 11:11 (twenty-one years ago)

As far as I know, the GM arc isn't a rumor, but actually happening. Can't remember who's doing the art, though. Don't forget SEVEN SOLDIERS, either (not exactly JLA, but more second/third-tier character revamps, which could be fun.)

WE3 is supposed to be out next month sometime, too. Not superheroic, but looks...fun anyways.

And I'm such a dope for SEAGUY that I bought the original art for the Battle with the Anti-Dad double-page splash from issue #1. It's beyootiful. Just need to put in a nice presentation now.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Monday, 26 July 2004 11:36 (twenty-one years ago)

That's a fantastic splash, isn't it? I only just noticed the tinyt figures fighting on Anti-Dad's right arm and leg.

― Wooden, Monday, 26 July 2004 17:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Geez, Matt, I'm so green I look like I've been struck by gamma rays over here.

You know what I'd like to see? I thought of this when I heard GM is going to do a JLA arc again. I'd like to see him do an Hourman series -- the One Million version of Hourman. I loved that series, what I read of it (maybe half, I need to pick them all up at some point), and the potential for Morrisonian strangeness of the Doom Patrol/Seaguy sort there is immense.

Bonus points if it were illustrated by Rags. Or Moebius. Is Moebius still around?

― Tep (ktepi), Monday, 26 July 2004 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)

There's actually a funny story about the characters depicted in those pages. I'd thought for sure that Grant Morrison had come up with all of them and had extensive back histories on them because that's the kind of guy he is. Apparently Mr. Stewart was required to come up with a bunch more characters to populate the scene and he got some help from his fellow studio-mates. The Motivational Orb is plainly visible on the middle left side (he's the one with the BELIEVE IN YOURSELF text); he's a Chip Zdarsky creation. Kagan McLeod was responsible for the Nevada Gymnast and a couple others.

And it seems that there's at least one hero having intercourse with one of the Anti-Dad's head spikes. No joke.

And Tep, if you want any of Cameron's art, you need but go to splashpageart.com and look it up. Almost any of the Seaguy pages are still available, as is a bunch of his Catwoman art. Unsure if his Invisibles pages (of which I own one) are still around, though.

No clue what Moebius is up to. Personally, I'd like to see someone like Jeff Parker draw Hourman. Or Cameron Stewart. Or Frank Quitely...

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 02:44 (twenty-one years ago)

splashpageart are really, really expensive though... Chris Weston has started dealing through them and his pages have gone from the $50 or so I used to pay for them to $200... luckily Chris still deals direct with some of us.

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 12:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I never said they weren't expensive; merely that they are the place to go if you want any of Cameron's DC work. Not necessarily an endorsement, but a fact.

Chris Weston is just too good. I bought the double-page splash of the superweirdos jumping out of the comic book from THE FILTH #3 from him last year.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 27 July 2004 14:00 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a petition here for more Seaguy... hopefully it'll gather a little more steam over time, but I guess DC can always be e-mailed/mailed in addition. But if the petition gets passed around a little more, hopefully it can really get going...

I think you all might enjoy the threads on this comic over on Barbelith.com if you haven't already, where Cameron has been posting himself, and responding to questions and queries.

― John Cei Douglas (John Cei Douglas), Thursday, 29 July 2004 09:55 (twenty-one years ago)

Mickey Eye, Mickey Eye!

― DV (dirtyvicar), Friday, 30 July 2004 21:43 (twenty-one years ago)

Mr. Maxwell, that double-page spread you posted on your bloggo is FANTASTIC!

― David R. (popshots75`), Saturday, 31 July 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Wow, Seaguy goes off the rails in this third issue. It's probably the funniest and the darkest GM has been, at the same time.

― Jordan (Jordan), Saturday, 31 July 2004 02:30 (twenty-one years ago)

Thank you, sah. I'm pretty damn happy with it (and kinda surprised someone else hadn't snapped it up.) Cameron should be fucking swimming in work and it's a crime that he isn't at the moment. I'm hoping that he'll turn up on one of the SEVEN SOLDIERS stories, but that's just a fanboy hope at the moment.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 31 July 2004 03:17 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

This is surely the best comic of the year.

Not that I've read any others, but COME ON.

― Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 08:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Okay, what issue is currently out? Is there talk of a trade paperback, or is the series not that far along yet? I gotta check this Seaguy shit out.

Oop, it looks like issue 3 of 3 came out in July, right? Does that mean there's no hope of a trade paperback?

― Vermont Girl (Vermont Girl), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:48 (twenty-one years ago)

Since it's issue 3 (of 3) series 1 (of 3), they might wait until all of them are out before collecting it. Unless it doesn't sell enough for the other two series, in which case it probably won't be collected.

On a tangent, has anyone else heard about the reprinting of Crawling From The Wreckage, with all the pages in this time?

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 11:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Are all nine issues going to come out, though? I think this might remain forever a mystery as unsolved as the time Flaming Carrot was up against the bandit moons.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 15:56 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, all the Grant Doom Patrol stuff is supposed to be up for TPB reprint, although at Bristol it was claimed anything after the first would depend on sales.

They're going to try and bluff the Flex Mentallo stuff out apparently by not having him on the cover and hope Ch4rl3s At14s doesn't notice (or his notoriously litigous estate rather, hence the googleproofing).

― aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 16:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Have they reprinted Animal Man beyond the first volume yet? I read that one a few days ago, it was fun to read some of his early superhero work where he seems to alternate between some oddly conservative (for Grant) plotlines and throwing crazy shit at the wall to see what sticks.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

That was perhaps an unfortunate choice of words for the metaphor.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Seaguy will be collected into a trade. I think it's due for a December or January release, but don't quote me on that. No word on whether or not the sequel trilogies have been green-lit or not.

The Doom Patrol reprints will indeed include the previously expurgated pages.

The entirety of Morrison's run on Animal Man have been collected. There's three volumes of 'em.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

xpost - Yeah, there's two more volumes of Animal Man that cover the rest of the run.

The different speeds is sort of explained in the introduction to the first volume, which is that they hired him for a four issue miniseries, then suddenly decided it was going to be ongoing, so he had to write something quickly. He was convinced that the first new issue would get him laughed out of town - instead it was The Coyote Gospel.

Haha also PH34R the hand of CrossOver!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, the Coyote Gospel is FABULOUS.

― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 18:29 (twenty-one years ago)

He told me at the time when he was writing Animal Man that for the first four issues he tried to give them what he thought they wanted, them after that decided to try doing it his way. He told me not to bother reading the first four, that they weren't any good.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 17:16 (twenty-one years ago)

They are pretty good - the arm cliffhanger is good anyway.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 1 September 2004 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

ten months pass...

I didn't get this at all!

― Leeeeeee (Leee), Monday, 4 July 2005 04:29 (twenty years ago)

(Misunderstanding for comic effect) You should, it's great!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 4 July 2005 08:36 (twenty years ago)

CS told me he has the script for Seaguy 2, but it's not been commisioned yet -- and probably won't be, ever. So sad.

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 4 July 2005 15:13 (twenty years ago)

that is tantalisingly awful.

― DV (dirtyvicar), Monday, 4 July 2005 16:16 (twenty years ago)

Surely with Grant's new god-like status at DC, they could throw him a bone in the shape of a 3-issue mini with guaranteed readership? It might help the Inferior Five ideas flow a little faster. If you know what I mean. You scratch my back etc.

― Vic Fluro, Monday, 4 July 2005 16:24 (twenty years ago)

eight months pass...

High points of the panel included his relating the utterly and beautifully absurd first issue of SEAGUY v. 2, which he’s basically written though there’s no interest in it at Vertigo right now (apparently the numbers on the first series were less than stellar, which is criminal on a cosmic scale.) Apparently our hero has been brainwashed by the agents of Mickey Eye, when he realizes that the parrot who replaced Chubby the Choona at the end of the first series is a BAD GUY. Seaguy is transformed into El Macho, world’s greatest matador! But he’s not a normal matador. See, you can’t kill bulls now, they’re sacred. So instead of poking them with a sword, you have to dress them and by doing so, utterly humiliate them. No really. The ghost of Chubby appears to Seaguy and ultimately, Seaguy follows him out of his artifically crafted life (apparently abandoning his pregnant wife.)

Of course, she isn’t pregnant. She says “Well, we just couldn’t keep him” to her round belly. Then she lifts her shawl and underneath it is not an unborn child, but a Mickey Eye.

Stolen from: http://www.highway-62.com/blog/archives/2006/02/the_unearthly_power_of_muscle.htm

Via: http://www.comicbookresources.com/columns/?column=13

― Amadeo (Amadeo G.), Monday, 3 April 2006 19:16 (nineteen years ago)

Hmm. It only took a month for that to fall into LitG? I didn't even realize it was news... If I'd known, I'd have just mailed it to Rich myself.

Well, at least it'll drive up the 'ol hitmeter.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Monday, 3 April 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

ysi?

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Monday, 3 April 2006 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Okay, I'm stupid, but I have no idea what YSI means. Please help me be less stupid. Please.

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Saturday, 8 April 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

I don't think we are allowed to talk about it anymore. Basically I was asking someone to send my a cbr file of Seaguy, but there was some worry on ilm that freakytrigger was going to get in trouble for sharing music, so all the threads about that got baletorzed.

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Saturday, 8 April 2006 16:33 (nineteen years ago)

Whoa, thanks, FEZ!

― Austin Still (Austin, Still), Sunday, 9 April 2006 15:28 (nineteen years ago)

SEAGUY WAS JUST OK LIKE SAM&MAX WITHOUT FUNNINESS I GIVE IT 3 STARS OUT OF 5

― !@% (Dan I.), Sunday, 9 April 2006 23:35 (nineteen years ago)

High points of the panel included his relating the utterly and beautifully absurd first issue of SEAGUY v. 2

OMG, that sounds great. What a shame that this isn't being published-- same with the second volume of Marvel Boy.

― Chris Freiberg (Chris F.), Thursday, 13 April 2006 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...

Back on, apparently...

― Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Monday, 5 June 2006 03:43 (nineteen years ago)

x00t!

― Keywords: revenge, knife, granddaughter, demonic-possession, rock-star, eel (Aus, Monday, 5 June 2006 04:16 (nineteen years ago)

Superawesome!

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 5 June 2006 07:53 (nineteen years ago)

If GM wrote nothing but Seaguy from now on I would be perfectly satisified.

― chap who would dare to be a nerd, not a geek (chap), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:09 (nineteen years ago)

I'd rather he finished All-Star Superman and Seven Soldiers, but yeah.

― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 5 June 2006 16:29 (nineteen years ago)

three years pass...

I finally picked up this trade

The second series now makes a lot more sense!

― so says i tranny ben franklin (HI DERE), Friday, 18 September 2009 19:38 (sixteen years ago)

When is the second series gonna come out as TPB? There's currently no place in Helsinki to get single issues, so I have to wait for the trades. :(

― Tuomas, Saturday, 19 September 2009 12:29 (sixteen years ago)

Of course I could look it up as a torrent, but I like Cameron Stewart's art so much I want to wait until I can read it on proper paper.

― Tuomas, Saturday, 19 September 2009 12:31 (sixteen years ago)

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