superman is batman's arch-nemesis

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Chuck Klosterman:

Now, I know that you're probably asking yourself, How do I know the difference between my nemesis and my archenemy? Here is the short answer: You kind of like your nemesis, despite the fact that you despise him. If your nemesis invited you out for cocktails, you would accept the offer. If he died, you would attend his funeral and—privately—you might shed a tear over his passing. But you would never have drinks with your archenemy, unless you were attempting to spike his gin with hemlock. If you were to perish, your archenemy would dance on your grave, and then he'd burn down your house and molest your children. You hate your archenemy so much that you try to keep your hatred secret, because you don't want your archenemy to have the satisfaction of being hated.

If this distinction seems confusing, just ask your girlfriend to explain it in detail; women have always intuitively grasped the nemesis/archenemy dichotomy. Every woman I've ever known has had at least one close friend whose only purpose in life is to criticize her actions, compete for the attention of men, and drive her insane; very often, this is a woman's best friend . Every woman also has a former friend (usually someone from high school with large breasts) whom she has loathed for years (and whom she will continue to loath with the intensity of a thousand suns, even if she sees her only once every ten years). This is her archenemy. Women intrinsically understand human dynamics, and this makes them unstoppable. Unfortunately, the average man is less adroit at fostering such rivalries, which is why most men remain average. Males are better at hating things that can't hate them back (e.g., lawn mowers, cats, the 1986 Denver Broncos, et cetera). Most men fail to see a world beyond themselves; if given the choice, they would connect themselves to nothing. But greatness cannot be achieved in a vacuum, and great people know that.

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The Joker was Batman's nemesis, but—ironically—his archenemy was Superman, since Superman made Batman seem entirely mortal and generally nonessential. Nobody likes to admit this, but Batman hated Superman; Superman is the reason Batman became an alcoholic. **


**This is speculative.

asdf, Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:22 (nineteen years ago)

That man has never read a comic in his life.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Huk discovers a new archenemy.

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:25 (nineteen years ago)

Lame men-are-from-mars definitions also needed for:

- mortal foe
- opposite number
- twisted reflection
- rogues gallery

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:27 (nineteen years ago)

The nemesis of my archenemy is my Justice Buddy.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:29 (nineteen years ago)

I think Klostermonkey's a little confused, cuz (to me and WEBSTER, at least) Nemesis carries an implication of balance, like twisted reflection/opposite number, whereas Arch Enemy is merely, y'know, what it is. Ergo, Superman could be Batman's nemesis.
I mean, I guess Klosterman's probably talking about DKR anyway, and maybe he's read Killing Joke, but he's obviously missed about 300 issues of World's Finest.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:36 (nineteen years ago)

I dunno if Klosterman has read a comic ever but maybe he's read one of my favourite ever ILC posts!

"Hey wow, Bruce, how's that neverending quest to clean up Gotham working out? You know the one, the one I COMPLETED IN 8 SECONDS with SUPER SPEED. Yeah the Joker put up a hell of a fight for an ORDINARY MAN WITH A DEFORMED FACE. Also I don't know how you slept at night when there was a man dressed as a penguin roaming your town, the half second it took me to deal with him and his umbrella-based schemes was the most terrifying of my life etc etc."

-- Vic Fluro (ds...), September 14th, 2005 11:22 PM. (link) (admin) (userip)

Tom (Groke), Thursday, 11 May 2006 15:52 (nineteen years ago)

:) :) :)

Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 11 May 2006 16:37 (nineteen years ago)

Also, I think the guy knows one, maybe two women, tops.

Casuistry (Chris P), Thursday, 11 May 2006 17:05 (nineteen years ago)

one month passes...
[DIE]

DIE, Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:01 (nineteen years ago)

Spam is my archenemy.

DV (dirtyvicar), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 11:10 (nineteen years ago)

You know what I love? When Batman hooks up with Lois Lane. THat's the best. THey should do a trade reprint of THE BEST TIMES WHEN BATMAN WAS MAKING OUT WITH SUPERMAN'S GIRLFRIEND AND SUPERMAN COULD ONLY WATCH AND CRY.

Huk-L (Huk-L), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 17:49 (nineteen years ago)

I just consulted a dictionary and the dude completely flipped the meaning of nemesis and archenemy. Unless the Joker is Batman's rival and Superman is his principal enemy. You want to squash your archenemy and would be better off without them; you merely want to outperform or "win" against your nemesis.

mike h. (mike h.), Wednesday, 5 July 2006 18:17 (nineteen years ago)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v224/Mr.Farrell/Tommysupes7qn.jpg

Huk-L (Huk-L), Thursday, 6 July 2006 14:56 (nineteen years ago)

two years pass...


I just consulted a dictionary and the dude completely flipped the meaning of nemesis and archenemy.

^^^

Kramkoob (Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃), Sunday, 28 September 2008 16:54 (seventeen years ago)


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