X-Men in pissing all over everybody shocker!

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They're bringing back the Fury in Uncanny, which will surely make Moore explode... they're crapping over the still-warm corpse of the Morrison run... X-Statix facing the axe, replaced by a new X-Force starring Rob Liefield... it's a massive pissing into the faces!

Admittedly, it's not like I was interested in them before they mystically got good for a second... but still! Pissing!

Vic Fluro, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 01:01 (twenty-one years ago)

They're calling Liefield's X-Force "years ahead of it's time!"

I guess DC are where it's at these days.

Vic Fluro, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 01:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I have zero interest in the X-books unless Astonishing X-Men is good, and even less interest in what they do with Morrison's plots and characters.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 01:25 (twenty-one years ago)

This thread isn't what I thought it would be about, thank God.

Christine 'Green Leafy Dragon' Indigo (cindigo), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 02:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Where's that image of Ice-Man being pissed a new body. That was great.

Pete (Pete), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 10:54 (twenty-one years ago)

wait, i just finished reading grant's run: who took over straight after that? when?

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 11:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Chuck Austen, unfortunately.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I read a review of the first post-GM issue of New X-Men where Mr. Austen (&, by proxy, the X-Men editorial staff) FUBAR'd some readily apparent things from GM's last issue. And they're gonna "bring back" Xorn, too.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 12:56 (twenty-one years ago)

X-Statix is finishing because Milligan and Allred want to move on to other things - in Allred's case, that includes a comic book version of the Book Of Mormon, as seen here: http://newsarama.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13379

David Simpson (David Simpson), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

They DID bring back Xorn (my girlfriend is buying all the Reload stuff this month, out of pity apparently). It looks like the old "Xorn was a real character and Magneto was just pretending to be him while he had him tied to a chair in his basement" or something similar.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 13:02 (twenty-one years ago)

eep.

the bit where the xorn mask starts talking to magneto leaves it v open to bring back xorn, mind you: if magneto was under the influence of "sublime" or whatever - i didn't get four issues somewhere in the middle yet and am quite unclear on what that is - you could do an actually-magneto-totally-reformed-and-his-personality-as-such-is-resident-in-the-mask thing. dammit that OUGHT to be followed through on. is there a thread about the end of morrison's new x-men yet?

i saw an issue of wizard last time i was in a comic store that i swear had the name "joss whedon" in connection with the x-men and thought, hey, he might actually make a decent job of it, did i imagine that?

tom west (thomp), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 13:30 (twenty-one years ago)

The passing of New X-Men

The Joss Whedon series (Astonishing X-Men) comes out tomorrow! I have high hopes.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 13:37 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm a bit less manic now than I was at 3 in the morning and a lot of this looks far more reasonable, although Chuck Austen is a miserable hack still.

Vic Fluro, Tuesday, 25 May 2004 13:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I just hope the Whedon series stays on time, unlike Fray. I realize he's not running two shows anymore, but he's presumably working on something to win the bread, and the Firefly movie, etc.

I wonder what series they would've given Kevin Williamson if he hadn't stopped being hot/burned out/disappeared before the "let's get Hollywood guys to write comics" thing.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 14:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought Bryan Singer was supposed to be writing (or at least supervising/coming up with a story for) an X-book, whatever happened to that?

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 14:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Co-writing Ultimate according to this from a couple months ago (three writers?!), but I'm not sure when that starts.

Is Ultimate X-Men any good? I really disliked the first two arcs, and haven't gone back since.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 14:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Never read it, oddly enough, but I'm planning to check it out this week since Brian K. Vaughan is doing a few issues.

Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 14:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Bendis saved the series. Millar brought the inconsistency and what-the-fuck-ever tone / character motivation / plot shifts with alarming regularity.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 14:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Allred's a Mormon?!

Leee's a Simpson (Leee), Tuesday, 25 May 2004 20:17 (twenty-one years ago)

eight months pass...
Uncanny X-Men seems a bit rub at the mo...I hate it when they are palying baseball, and when things are set in England. I did not enjoy "The End of History" TPB very much. Is the Crulest Cut any better?

The Day of the Atom X-Men TPB seems quite good so far. "Gambit's gone blind" "oh dear! that sucks, sorry dude", they are getting a bit callous. Has X-Men finished? I'm confused.

I liked the Astonishing X-Men, as it was less confusing, coz they didn't seemed to be getting bogged down in CONTINUity! i might just stick with this one.

Questions:

When did Ice Man get stuck all icey?
When did Rachel come back?

jel -- (jel), Saturday, 19 February 2005 20:37 (twenty-one years ago)

Astonishing X-Men is the only one worth the cash, though Peter Milligan's X-Men might be pretty good in spite of an awkward first issue/storyline.

Iceman's secondary mutation was to turn completely into ice. This happened during Chuck Austen's ridiculously awful run on Uncanny X-Men.

Rachel came back at the very end of Claremont's X-Treme X-Men. No idea how, and it's not very important so don't stress about it. She's basically there to fill the red hair Phoenix quota.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 06:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Er, Iceman's been turning completely into ice since maybe 1994 if not 1991.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:01 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, does the character profile for Rachel Summers mandate that she must have a fucking awful haircut?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:02 (twenty-one years ago)

What? You no like-a the butch buzzcut? The future-slave rat-tail? The flippy-flip do?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm not sure that the most powerful woman in the universe should have hesher- or Gidget-hair.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I think it's subtle "she's from the future, she will never pick up on the correct fashion cues, today's stupid is tomorrow's hawt" design.

(I don't think this.)

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:11 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, her wearing the old Marvel Girl outfit = huh?

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

That's her codename now too, iirc -- I picked up one of the Claremont issues a few months ago, and I think someone (on ILC) explained what the deal was with her calling herself Marvel Girl, but I don't remember what it is.

Editorially, I'm sure it's so Jean Grey can call herself Phoenix and no one has to come up with a new name like Headtrip or Mento-Girl.

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Red-Headed Step-Child is still available!

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Too long for a solo series!

Mind Mistress
The Telekinudist
Anachronabortion
Buffy [Rachel "Buffy" Summers] [This reminds me of the friend of a friend who argued, in perfect sincerity and getting slightly pissed off when she was dismissed, that Buffy was obviously related to Cyclops and Havok and etc. because Joss Whedon had read the X-Men and "wouldn't have been stupid enough" to use the Summers name without intending it to be a connection, ergo Buffy was a mutant, ergo Mr Sinister was "probably" a Watcher.]

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)

Giant-Sized Red-Headed Step-Child #-1

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 22:13 (twenty-one years ago)

She should just make a costume with the square root of -1 on it (that would fit in both dialogue boxes and titles, and we could argue over how the characters are pronouncing it, and whether they're calling her "the square root of negative one"), and say angsty Claremontian stuff like "I may be imaginary but you still have to deal with me," and the story where she goes nuts and Wolverine has to take her down can be called "I against i."

Tep (ktepi), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 22:24 (twenty-one years ago)

Hahahaha! "Look out, Imaginary Girl!"

Or she could put pi on her costume: "Irrational Girl, behind you!"

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 22 February 2005 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Her catchphrase: "WHO ARE YOU CALLING IRRATIONAL?" and then she goes into Claremont Bitch mode, and everyone feels uncomfortable.

Tep (ktepi), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 00:20 (twenty-one years ago)

I am very tempted to try to create an IRrational Girl comic now. I just need an artist.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 02:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Get in line, Dang.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 02:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I think Red-Headed Step-Child is still available!

Ha ha ha! OTM!

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Wednesday, 23 February 2005 02:54 (twenty-one years ago)

i just remembered... wasn't there a whole subplot, like 7 years ago, where xavier and magneto were merged into a supervillain and killed everyone?? WHAT A RUBBISH PLOT!!

dave k, Monday, 28 February 2005 03:14 (twenty-one years ago)

That would be Onslaught. They didn't physically merge - it was more like the improbable convoluted by product of Xavier erasing Magneto's mind after he ripped out Wolverine's adamantium skeleton.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 28 February 2005 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

But yeah, definitely rubbish.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Monday, 28 February 2005 03:59 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
FWIW, some excerpts from a fake Chvck Au$t3n blog (since shut down) (courtesy of zeee Fanboy Rampage bloggo):

"When I was appointed the new regular writer for DC's Action Comics, just over a year ago, I set out with three very specific goals in mind. They were: 1) Skip ten years' worth of continuity involving Lana Lang. 2) Create a love triangle between Lois, Clark and Lana. 3) Get fired and have the next guy clean up the mess. I think I succeeded quite nicely, don't you think? What I didn't know, was that this would effectively end my career at DC. I have a better chance of getting work there if I'd change my name to John Byrne. Somehow, that makes me really, really sad."

"What's the big deal about Craig Thompson? So he wrote this book. Blankets, it's called. It's a blubbery blubfest about a nerdy guy who desperately wants to get laid with this girl, who desperately wants to do other stuff but humors the nerdy guy because he reminds her of a dying puppy or whatever. Then they break up and the nerdy guy whines about it for about six hundred pages. I write stuff like that in under thirty minutes. Every. Single. Month. And yet, you don't see people worship the ground I walk upon or beg for my love child. Really, I write stuff like that during breakfast. Only with more sexual innuendo in it. And big-ass fights. Every good comic book has to have big-ass fights. Craig Thompson's comics don't have big-ass fights. QED."

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 19:10 (twenty-one years ago)

Oh man, I really wish I had seen that whole fake Austen blog!

Did that really happen with Action Comics? Why did DC let him do that stuff?

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 22:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Someday Chuck Austen and Rob Liefeld need to get together and do some comics. They belong to each other.

Matthew C Perpetua (inca), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 22:05 (twenty-one years ago)

All I know from his Action Comics run is that Clark was supposed to be shoved out of his primo reporter roost by some hot shot & made out to be ineffectual, Lois was supposed to become more curt & bitchy ("like she used to be," according to CA in various interviews) (I paraphrase, natch), & Lana (whom I believe was married to VP Pete Ross!) was supposed to be making a move on the Supes. And Supes fought SODOM & GOMMORAH. There's some thread where we goofed on that for about 1038 posts - you'll find it if you search the archives, no doubt.

David R. (popshots75`), Tuesday, 12 April 2005 23:57 (twenty-one years ago)

"Chuck Austen" OTM about Blankets, anyway.

The Yellow Kid, Wednesday, 13 April 2005 02:39 (twenty-one years ago)

Someday Chuck Austen and Rob Liefeld need to get together and do some comics. They belong to each other.

They've both drawn Alan Moore stories! The confluence grows.

kit brash (kit brash), Wednesday, 13 April 2005 07:29 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...
Wait a sec - Marvel's bladder got a second wind!

So, as part of the House of M hoowah (OMG 1st issue sold out before hitting shelves - PRINT MORE NEXT TIME YOU TURDS), Excalibur (that super-terrific Claremont / whomever series where Magneto and X are doing an Xtreme House Makeover on Genosha while dealing w/ stupid pirate turds and Arcade or some crap) is getting canned. Well, hell yeah, score one for Quality Control, and get CC away from any Dino-Rachel boggins.

BUT WAIT - once House of M is done shaking the foundation of the Marvel universe to its joists and unadorned drywall, a NEW title will rise in its place, featuring a NEW set of challenges, a NEW set of danger, opening a WHOLE NEW WORLD of adventure for (I presume) the SAME OLD CHARACTERS. And the name of this NEW title is ...

NEW EXCALIBUR

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 25 May 2005 12:34 (twenty years ago)

three months pass...
PEOPLE I SAID NEW EXCALIBUR!!!

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 2 September 2005 21:28 (twenty years ago)


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